Every now and again, you get a "no solace" moment: something is outrageous enough for both sides in a long-running political war to come together to condemn it.
But you had to expect this from Virginia. Have you read the Virginia State seal? See that motto on it? "Sic semper tyrannis." Let me explain: it shows a Roman infantryman planting his foot on a fallen man, with a crown resting nearby. And the translation? "Thus Always to Tyrants."
Virginia is also the Mother of Presidents (because so many Presidents came from Virginia), *and* the Mother of the Declaration of Independence (and, when you think about it, the Constitution. James Madison wrote most of it, and George Washington ran the convention that proposed it.)
Virginia Legislature Votes to Oppose Indefinite Detention of Americans without Trial!
Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
2012/03/03 08:32:20
Lawmakers in Virginia have put aside their partisan differences about health care, contraception and other issues to officially oppose a controversial law passed by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama that allows the federal government to detain Americans without trial for alleged terrorism-related activities.
By votes of 39-1 in the state Senate and 96-4 in the House of Delegates, the legislature approved a bill “to nullify” provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2012.
The Virginia legislation is largely symbolic, as it does not prevent federal agents from arresting terrorism suspects. But the legislative action is part “of a larger NDAA nullification campaign around the country.”
Seven other legislatures are also considering anti-NDAA bills. In addition, several local governments have passed resolutions that either denouncement the federal act or require noncompliance with it.
As previously reported by AllGov:
Obama’s supporters, including Republicans who normally oppose almost everything he does, have tried to defend the bill by saying that it doesn’t really go as far as its critics claim. However, the wording of the act, although carefully phrased, is nonetheless clear.
For example, Obama apologists say that it does not codify indefinite detention. But section 1021 (c-1) allows “Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of hostilities.” A U.S. president can take the position that he is engaged in a war without end. In fact, that is exactly what Presidents Bush and Obama have done. In addition, section (b-2) states that the law applies not just to members of al-Qaeda and the Taliban, but to any person who has “substantially supported” “associated forces.” Because these terms are not defined, Obama would appear to be free to interpret them as he chooses…as would be any future president.
Supporters of the president—and the members of Congress of both parties who passed the bill—dismiss the contention that American citizens can be detained indefinitely. Again the wording is clever, but disturbing. Section 1022 (b-1) states that, in regard to U.S. citizens “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.” The key word here is “requirement.” In other words, the president still has the option to place Americans in indefinite military detention.
Some Americans may say that terrorism suspects should be stopped using any means necessary, and that if a few innocent people are imprisoned without trial by mistake, it’s unfortunate, but it’s better to be safe than sorry. However, there is now nothing to stop the current president of the United States, or the next one or the one after that, from taking advantage of the wording of the law and the fear of enemies to imprison whomever he chooses.
-David Wallechinsky, Noel Brinkerhoff
To Learn More:
Virginia Declares “Emperor Has No Clothes”: NDAA Nullified (by Carl Herman, Examiner.com)
Battle Against NDAA Kidnapping Provisions Cross Party Lines (by Mike Maharrey, Tenth Amendment Center)
Obama Signs into Law Indefinite Detention of Americans without Trial (by David Wallechinsky and Noel Brinkerhoff, AllGov)
Senate Bill Allows Indefinite Imprisonment of Americans without Trial (by Noel Brinkerhoff and David Wallechinsky, AllGov)
Read More: http://www.allgov.com/Top_Stories/ViewNews/Virgini...
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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/03/03 13:04:27
He's got my vote, RP2012!!
Wasn't it the Mormons who moved west years ago to claim their own Country outside the bounds of the U.S. Constitution?
And Lobbyists are just plain suited thieves.
They just feel it will be a smoother, softer fall into tyranny with one of these three shoving it down their throat. For some, I guess, you have to cut their foot off before they feel the threat of someone cutting their foot off is REAL.
While they're at it TAKE GOOD LOOK AT THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES that support it as well.
They are traitors just the same.
The R and The D behind their names mean nothing.
AMAZING!
NOW THEN, why do not States Rights reign in all matters? Why should everyone be forced to fend off tyranny at each and every turn?
That bill was passed just as the Occupy people and the Unions begin to threaten More Militant and Guerilla tactics in their next round of battle. The SEIU and AFL/CIO are training people in Hit and Run tactics. Hit and get away before the police can respond.
The only way we can possibly control a mob that outnumbers the Authorities, which is their goal, is to lock them up and keep them locked up till they calm down. As it is now they get arrested, and are back out doing mischief in hours. I know it is not the American Way, but neither is allowing our society to be threatened by vandalism and Rioting in the streets.
I also know all Occupy folks are not bad people, just the Useful Idiots being led by those with an agenda against our country. Bill Ayers and Van Jones to name just the tip of the Iceberg.
So far in the past 2 weeks, the Occupy people have hit, and accepted responsibility for, damage to banks here in Seattle, and Portland, causing thousands in damage. And put Oakland Policemen in the hospital.
QUADRUPLICATION DITTOS ON THIS ONE, SAYS IT ALL, GET RID OF O-CARE AND NDAA WHERE IT ATTACKS OUR RIGHTS AS LAW ABIDING CITIZEN OF THE USA...