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Vietnam Bans Smoking in Public: Great Idea or Too Extreme?

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Some countries are taking strides to cut down on smoking by banning it in schools, in the workplace, at bars... But Vietnam just took a giant leap by passing a law that completely bans smoking in public, and outlaws all tobacco advertising. According to Agence-France Press, the law passed by a vote of 440 out of 468, and will go into effect next May. It will be a tough pill to swallow -- about 47.4 percent of Vietnam's male population smokes.

The crackdown is meant to supplement a 2010 ban on smoking in public places like schools and hospitals. Though that ban has been in place for two years now, few pay it mind. The Southeast Asia Tobacco Control Alliance projects that by 2030, tobacco will kill 70,000 people per year in Vietnam if something isn't done to curtail the habit. But is completely banning smoking in public a little too extreme?

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  • Franklin 2012/06/19 19:46:07
    Too extreme
    Franklin
    +16
    o look all the liberals are saying good idea - yup liberals who can't use ANY self control are always about trying to control others !

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  • sleuthjen BigFig#9 2012/06/19 22:22:51
    sleuthjen
    Didn't the founders learn all about Tobacco from the Indians and first settlers?
  • BigFig#9 sleuthjen 2012/06/19 23:51:46
    BigFig#9
    perhaps so but they didn't enshrine it in the Constitution so whatever the flaws in that document as it relates to modern society, tobacco wasn't one of them.... God help us if the right of a well regulated militia to bare tobacco had been granted...
  • gregory... BigFig#9 2012/06/21 04:36:54
    gregory.ditzler
    you make a good point but if we ban smoking outside where does it end? It's a slipper slope when it comes to regulating personal responsibility.
  • BigFig#9 gregory... 2012/06/21 17:23:37
    BigFig#9
    It's always a balance and there's NEVER any pure freedom nor pure totalitarianism. I don't think we're on a slippery slope because sex acts must be inside and only in rare circumstances does this generate smoke. : )
  • Jacqui 2012/06/19 20:46:43
    Great idea
    Jacqui
    +1
    It is a wonderful idea, just for the fact it will keep more 2nd. hand smoke away from children.
  • FanOreilly 2012/06/19 20:45:08
    Too extreme
    FanOreilly
    +8
    Not my country.
  • Professor Wizard 2012/06/19 20:43:42
    Great idea
    Professor Wizard
    +1
    Why not... we banned nudity in public... and Cigarettes are way more bad for you then being naked!
  • fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust" 2012/06/19 20:23:37
    Too extreme
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +7
    Let's ban fried food too!
    Ban butter and cheese.
    Ban all forms of sausages including bologna.

    Where do you stop?

    BTW: You breathe in more pollution from car exhaust than from cigarettes. You also breathe in toxins like asbestos all the time.
  • BigFig#9 fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 21:10:13
    BigFig#9
    +1
    Your Big Mac 1) is nutrition of a sort and 2) does not transmit toxic fats via the wind.
  • gregory.ditzler 2012/06/19 20:23:02
    Too extreme
    gregory.ditzler
    +4
    I admit I might be on the wrong side of this but, I feel that personal liberty is more important than health is in this situation. It's a slippery slope.
  • JERSEYDUDE 2012/06/19 20:21:05
    Too extreme
    JERSEYDUDE
    +6
    how about banning the toxic ingredients unnecessarily added to cigarettes....right there youd lower deaths and disease by two thirds
  • BigFig#9 JERSEYDUDE 2012/06/19 21:09:15
    BigFig#9
    So you defend the right to set off toxic stink bombs in public places?
  • JERSEYDUDE BigFig#9 2012/06/20 00:19:15
    JERSEYDUDE
    yup
  • Eliot Loney 2012/06/19 20:17:00
    Too extreme
    Eliot Loney
    +4
    Idiots.
  • Muver 2012/06/19 20:16:30
    Great idea
    Muver
    Anything that helps the air quality, especially in crowded conditions, helps....but I hope they have the good sense to do it outside, and not poison the indoor air...of their homes.
  • scoobydooby 2012/06/19 20:15:57
    Great idea
    scoobydooby
    Smoking only ruins lives. I think every country should ban it from public places.
  • Jackie scoobyd... 2012/06/20 04:20:18
    Jackie
    Do you want to go down the list of all the every day things OTHER than cigarettes that also "ruin lives"?? Where does the "banning" stop? When have you ever heard of a "public employee" dying because of 2nd hand smoke, as opposed to the millions of Americans dying because of car accidents? Should we BAN cars??
  • scoobyd... Jackie 2012/06/20 05:41:00
    scoobydooby
    Well you are obviously a smoker. And I agree that there are things that are much worse than smoking, but it would help to ban them. Every puff of a cigarette takes some of your life away. Smoking does absolutely nothing for you, where as owning a car is great for transportation. Tell me, what is great about cigarettes?
  • Jackie scoobyd... 2012/06/21 05:21:27
    Jackie
    "What is great about cigarettes?" absolutely NOTHING, but it's still my right to do so pal because it's MY BODY. You know like how you liberals fight for a women's right to "choose" to KILL her innocent "unwanted" baby.....why DO you liberals care about MY HEALTH, under the guise of supposedly wanting me to LIVE longer by wanting to ban smoking, but yet don't care about the "health" of an unborn innocent child who was sucked out of their mothers womb like a vacuum cleaning up dirt??
  • knoodelhed 2012/06/19 20:11:30
    Great idea
    knoodelhed
    A bad habit inherited from the French and enabled by the Americans.
  • Tabitha 2012/06/19 20:05:52
    Great idea
    Tabitha
    Smoking is a nasty nasty habit. I despise it.
  • Jackie Tabitha 2012/06/20 04:22:57
    Jackie
    +1
    Well good for you, I'm sure there are of secret of habits your own that I would "despise". .
  • Tabitha Jackie 2012/06/20 20:50:21
    Tabitha
    +1
    Oh totally. You and quite a few other people could despise all of the habits I have. But like that matters. It won't change anything because someone doesn't like something. Just an opinion.
  • Jackie Tabitha 2012/06/21 05:30:05
    Jackie
    +1
    So are you FOR banning smoking or not..given you admitted that you have your own bad habits? I have a girlfriend who HATES smoking, but when I said to her, how would you feel if the government banned serving wine in restaurants , she changed her tune on her feelings about "banning" smoking. Only when it directly HITS THEM with the banning crap, is when they say OK enough is enough.
  • Tabitha Jackie 2012/06/21 22:41:11
    Tabitha
    I am for banning it. I see it as a nasty habit.
  • Jackie Tabitha 2012/06/24 06:22:17
    Jackie
    +1
    Tabitha, can't you see that when YOU think something is a "nasty habit" in your opinion, thus all for banning it...that you're traveling down a slippery slope of WHAT'S NEXT to ban because someone finds your "nasty habits" offensive to THEM? I find people who bite their fingernails, who eat with their mouths open and those who wear too tight clothing for their body type disgusting..should we call for banning those things? Before you retort with.."those habits don't hurt the public like your smoking does"...The truth is, either does smoking towards those who DON'T smoke, you've just been brainwashed to believe that 2nd hand smoke will kill you. If 2nd hand smoke is such a killer to so many Americans, why hasn't the government banned smoking all together? Oh right, because the government likes the EVEN HIGHER tax revenues they get now AFTER convincing you people that 2nd hand smoke kills? How many people DO YOU know that have died from 2nd hand smoke since the government declared 2nd hand smoke to be dangerous to the public? How much TAX revenue has been raised for the GOVERNMENT since they deemed 2nd hand smoke dangerous to the public..thus getting the public to agree to higher taxes on tobacco?? Can you not see how you're being played? They can't keep raising tobacco taxes...
    Tabitha, can't you see that when YOU think something is a "nasty habit" in your opinion, thus all for banning it...that you're traveling down a slippery slope of WHAT'S NEXT to ban because someone finds your "nasty habits" offensive to THEM? I find people who bite their fingernails, who eat with their mouths open and those who wear too tight clothing for their body type disgusting..should we call for banning those things? Before you retort with.."those habits don't hurt the public like your smoking does"...The truth is, either does smoking towards those who DON'T smoke, you've just been brainwashed to believe that 2nd hand smoke will kill you. If 2nd hand smoke is such a killer to so many Americans, why hasn't the government banned smoking all together? Oh right, because the government likes the EVEN HIGHER tax revenues they get now AFTER convincing you people that 2nd hand smoke kills? How many people DO YOU know that have died from 2nd hand smoke since the government declared 2nd hand smoke to be dangerous to the public? How much TAX revenue has been raised for the GOVERNMENT since they deemed 2nd hand smoke dangerous to the public..thus getting the public to agree to higher taxes on tobacco?? Can you not see how you're being played? They can't keep raising tobacco taxes..so NEXT is putting taxes on anything the "deem" unhealthy to our health..ALL under the guise of "caring" about our health, but in reality it's just to raise more taxes to keep funding ridiculous GOVERNMENT pensions and FUNDING! Obama smoking
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  • Tabitha Jackie 2012/06/28 01:10:34
    Tabitha
    I just don't see it as a fit thing to do. I have 2 parents that smoke and I know how it makes me feel. I just think that it would be nicer for people to do it in the privacy of their homes. And yes everyone has bad habits that others wish didn't exist.
  • YouSirName 2012/06/19 19:59:17
    Too extreme
    YouSirName
    +2
    Laws that protect people primarily from themselves are wrong. I can see banning smoking in places that infringe upon others, but anywhere in public is too extreme. Banning advertising is also wrong, for the same reason. That said, I think cigarettes are a horrible habit and the companies that make them should be taxed into oblivion.
  • BigFig#9 YouSirName 2012/06/19 21:16:34
    BigFig#9
    +2
    Impact on others
    1) Health
    2) Laundry
    3) Freaken BUTTS thrown all over the place - apparently smokers are also often litter bugs.....
    4) brush fires
    5) The freaken stink where smokers congregate
    6) My insurance costs (of course that probably goes for alcohol and fatty foods too)

    Sorry - I'm not allowed to set off stink bombs in public and neither should smokers...
  • Lorraine BigFig#9 2012/06/19 22:23:24
    Lorraine
    +1
    I agree!!! Disgusting to go to Disneyland and see he smoke pit with a bunch of so called Moms holding their babies puffing away! SMOKING is disgusting!!!
  • BigFig#9 Lorraine 2012/06/19 23:52:42
    BigFig#9
    Disgusting isn't illegal but disgusting is a good thing to do in private.
  • Jackie Lorraine 2012/06/20 04:46:55
    Jackie
    +1
    What's even more disgusting, is those supposedly "offended" by smokers" crowd , POUNDING down the alcohol and then getting in their cars with their kids to drive home!
  • Jackie BigFig#9 2012/06/20 04:37:58
    Jackie
    +1
    YOU must living the "so called" perfect pristine lifestyle for YOU to cast judgement on those who "HORRORS" still smoke cigarettes...but at the same time I'm sure you support the legalizing of Marijuana. Hey lets give the BURNOUTS their "right" to light up anywhere anytime, but punish those damn cigarette smokers??????????????? I'm a "health freak"..., BUT I also RESPECT the rights of those who are NOT health freaks! Who are YOU to "feel" that just because you "feel" a certain way, that YOUR WAY, should be legislated??
  • BigFig#9 Jackie 2012/06/20 05:03:12
    BigFig#9
    Yes I do BUT your Marijuana smokers can stick themselves in the same sealed room with your tobacco smoker as I don't enjoy the smell of it much more. I respect peoples rights as much as anyone until their behavior interferes with me and to me this is like loud music or (as I've said) smoke bombs.... Hey, if you want to smoke in the woods and you don't start a fire and you pick up your butts more power to you, but regardless of the health issues, I'm sick an tired of the noxious smell as I simply try to walk down the street. Letting people smoke in public is no more reasonable than letting themselves smear feces all over their body and be in public - the odor is atrocious.
  • Jackie BigFig#9 2012/06/20 05:23:55
    Jackie
    +1
    Oh so it's all about YOU, and what YOU can or can not deal with, not about ALL...only YOU?
  • BigFig#9 Jackie 2012/06/20 18:14:00
    BigFig#9
    True - if it was ONLY me I should put up with it. My sense is that there is a sizable majority offended by the odor. If it's just me than that's my issue. That said, since smoking is of no productive value and demonstrably harmful to practitioners at the very least I don't see a need for a great deal of tolerance like say the diesel fumes and noise from a construction sight, etc... If I'm not in the majority then I'll live with the stench (but won't avoid tasteless cancer jokes, etc...)
  • Jackie BigFig#9 2012/06/21 05:49:58
  • BigFig#9 Jackie 2012/06/21 17:41:01
    BigFig#9
    The Fed tax goes to SCHIP program so that's only very tangentially helping union pension funds. (I suppose some workers are unionized and of course part of their pay goes to pension). States spend their tax shares different ways but none that I know of fund pension funds directly. Governments KNOW both alcohol and tobacco have huge impacts on both personal and government budgets both in terms of revenue generated and in costs incurred. (I'll not bother to provide studies but there are overwhelming numbers of supporting studies that cannot be ignored. Even the tobacco companies' own studies reveal this but tend to come to lower calculations.) There are many economists who take stabs at calculating the revenue vs. cost but it's far too convoluted and too open to extraneous impacts and cross cause variables to feel really confident about any of the studies. It's clear that health costs (both direct to the government and societal) of tobacco, alcohol abuse, obesity and vices are high but it's also clear that each of these are expressions of freedom. The challenge is not to 'outlaw' anything (see how well that's worked for marijuana and prohibition) but rather to make reasonable policies to mitigate the impact. You may well believe that this is reaching too far while I don't. ...
    The Fed tax goes to SCHIP program so that's only very tangentially helping union pension funds. (I suppose some workers are unionized and of course part of their pay goes to pension). States spend their tax shares different ways but none that I know of fund pension funds directly. Governments KNOW both alcohol and tobacco have huge impacts on both personal and government budgets both in terms of revenue generated and in costs incurred. (I'll not bother to provide studies but there are overwhelming numbers of supporting studies that cannot be ignored. Even the tobacco companies' own studies reveal this but tend to come to lower calculations.) There are many economists who take stabs at calculating the revenue vs. cost but it's far too convoluted and too open to extraneous impacts and cross cause variables to feel really confident about any of the studies. It's clear that health costs (both direct to the government and societal) of tobacco, alcohol abuse, obesity and vices are high but it's also clear that each of these are expressions of freedom. The challenge is not to 'outlaw' anything (see how well that's worked for marijuana and prohibition) but rather to make reasonable policies to mitigate the impact. You may well believe that this is reaching too far while I don't. Principally I'm NOT concerned with your health nor even concerned with my health. Principally I'm offended by a habit that leads to noxious public air. Not too different than if you pooped in the street except that of course, everybody needs to poop but we expect them to go to a sealed room with a fan to do it.
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  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/06/19 19:54:06
    Great idea
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +2
    Very prudent if you think of how many had died as a result of a quick smoke starting their straw hat on fire!

    hat on fire
  • AngelaDuke 2012/06/19 19:53:00
    Great idea
    AngelaDuke
    +1
    What's too extreme about wanting to improve the environment and the health of their citizens?

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