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Veterans symbolically discard service medals over the Wars Bush Started.

Manuel 2012/05/21 17:04:16
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Nearly 50 U.S. military veterans at an anti-NATO rally in Chicago threw
their service medals into the street on Sunday, an action they said
symbolized their rejection of the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Some of the veterans, many
wearing military uniform shirts over black anti-war t-shirts, choked
back tears as they explained their actions. Others folded an American
flag while a bugle played "Taps," which is typically performed at U.S.
military funerals.


"The medals are supposed
to be for acts of heroism. I don't feel like a hero. I don't feel like I
deserve them," said Zach LaPorte, who served in Iraq in 2005 and 2006.


LaPorte, a 28-year-old
mechanical engineer from Milwaukee, said he enlisted in the Army at 19
because he felt there were few other options. At the time, he could not
afford to stay in college.


"I witnessed civilian
casualties and civilians being arrested in what I consider an illegal
occupation of a sovereign nation," LaPorte said.


He said he was glad the
United States had withdrawn its combat troops from Iraq, but said he did
not believe the NATO military alliance was going to leave Afghanistan.


On Sunday, NATO
Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen opened the two-day summit of the
26-member alliance saying there would be no hasty exit from
Afghanistan.


A veteran from New York
who only gave his name as Jerry said: "I don't want any part of this
anymore. I chose human life over war, militarism and imperialism."


The veterans had hoped to
present their medals to a NATO representative. The closest they could
get was the fence ringing the McCormick Place convention center about a
block from where U.S. President Barack Obama and other leaders were
meeting. The veterans threw their medals toward the convention center.


Matt Howard, 29, who
served in the Marines from 2001 to 2006, said the rate of suicides among
veterans returning from the wars is high.


"These medals are not
worth the cloth and steel they're printed on. They're representative of
failed policies," said Howard, a spokesman for Iraq Veterans Against the
War.


Former U.S. Army Sergeant
Alejandro Villatoro, 29, of Chicago, served during the Iraq 2003
invasion and in Afghanistan in 2011.


He said he suffers from
post-traumatic stress syndrome and depression and gave back three medals
- one "War on Terrorism" medal, one for participating in the Iraq war
and a NATO medal from the Afghanistan war. He said he wants the war in
Afghanistan to end.


"There's no honor in these wars," said Villatoro, before he threw away his medals. "There's just shame."

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  • cybernestical 2012/05/28 20:07:41
    These Veterans are wackcos.
    cybernestical
    They should be ashamed.
  • Manuel cyberne... 2012/07/11 03:03:48
    Manuel
    they are,,,, of the dirt bag Bush war they were in..
  • Alummina 2012/05/22 04:31:21
    These Veterans are right.
    Alummina
    +2
    Hello….have you see what happened to Veterans when they come back home? Sometimes they are injured and they don’t get enough money to live. so they some times have to live in the streets, they get disconnected from families spatially when they have to live in other countries, The government have to ensure them by giving them a home, spatially when the cause of war is fake at list to have a house to live so they can fill welcome and have some psychologist until they have a technical carrier too because when they come back there life’s are already ruin. Have you hear about Halliburton house it was making money from your taxes the war is the Devil Business, because so far 911 was a lie! False flag operation too. So, The Devils are the one who did this! And its time for them to quit! This innocent Military personal who are basically force to be in the military because they can’t pay for college, I know the military people will love to be professionals but they weren’t born with the same opportunities as Bush this p@#o is the cause of pain to all the families from 911 they want to control all they can. Like a pyramid, now I am not just inventing this it’s the real truth! Please watch this Angel in YouTube: Planet Earth: Secret Reality Documentary this is where it comes the truth i...
    Hello….have you see what happened to Veterans when they come back home? Sometimes they are injured and they don’t get enough money to live. so they some times have to live in the streets, they get disconnected from families spatially when they have to live in other countries, The government have to ensure them by giving them a home, spatially when the cause of war is fake at list to have a house to live so they can fill welcome and have some psychologist until they have a technical carrier too because when they come back there life’s are already ruin. Have you hear about Halliburton house it was making money from your taxes the war is the Devil Business, because so far 911 was a lie! False flag operation too. So, The Devils are the one who did this! And its time for them to quit! This innocent Military personal who are basically force to be in the military because they can’t pay for college, I know the military people will love to be professionals but they weren’t born with the same opportunities as Bush this p@#o is the cause of pain to all the families from 911 they want to control all they can. Like a pyramid, now I am not just inventing this it’s the real truth! Please watch this Angel in YouTube: Planet Earth: Secret Reality Documentary this is where it comes the truth if we don’t stopped them all our next generation will be exterminated because that’s there plan. I invite you to go to you tube to see this and pass it to as many people you know we have to share this before its too late, or at list prepare and take the red pill.
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  • "SennaKoshiba" 2012/05/22 01:14:25
    These Veterans are right.
    "SennaKoshiba"
    +1
    Not offering my take on this, these men did more than good enough for me.
  • Picasso's Cat 2012/05/21 22:18:57
    These Veterans are right.
    Picasso's Cat
    +1
    Those medals arn't worth much anymore anyway. Hell I found out my purple heart is'nt even gold, it's thin plated gold, has about 70 cent's worth of gold on it, lol.
    And i got mine for the vietnam war, another worthless plotical blunder that got hundreds of thousands of Americans dead, and my best friend!!!
    But We The people keep n voting for these fools that keep getting "Us" killed.
    We should have a war where only political leaders go and fight to weed them out of the system!!!!
  • Donald Eric Kesler 2012/05/21 20:41:36
    These Veterans are right.
    Donald Eric Kesler
    +2
    The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have done nothing to secure the freedom of United States citizens; they have, however, helped a small group of wealthy individuals become even more wealthy.
  • Willie 2012/05/21 19:59:31
    These Veterans are right.
    Willie
    +2
    I feel very badly for these men. Most people enlist in the military believing that our government would not ask to them to participate in an unjust, unnecessary war, or to commit illegal acts. That may be naive, but no one can be blamed for thinking that way - we're raised to think that way and told over and over that we live in the greatest and most free nation on earth.

    These men are intelligent and sensitive enough to realize that they participated in something that our nation should not be proud of. I agree with that sentiment, but I also think that what our government decided to do has nothing to do with the individual effort and sacrifice that our soldiers make. Despite their government's deception, these soldiers performed honorably and willingly, and deserve recognition and respect for that performance. I wish there was a way for them to keep their medals, and to strip something away from the Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld gang that so abused their power and their positions as leaders of our fine soldiers.
  • Manuel Willie 2012/05/22 01:58:48
  • eNewsAlerts 2012/05/21 18:31:53
    These Veterans are wackcos.
    eNewsAlerts
    +1
    Lets face it, in every war there are veterans who don't come out of it quite right. I don't think it is kind to call them wackos, but it is what it is. I think we should try to be understanding of those who are emotionally/mentally scarred.
  • Manuel eNewsAl... 2012/05/22 02:00:46
    Manuel
    +1
    These guys are not wacko...or scared....just pissed at the GOP for getting them in a useless war...
  • eNewsAl... Manuel 2012/05/22 16:47:07
    eNewsAlerts
    These guys are pissed at life and are looking for attention. They signed up to fight evil in the world. If you don't like that you should not sign up. We all know what kind of evil murderer Saddam Hussein was as well as the Taliban... Many have died under Obama in these wars as well... Not to mention he got us in another in Libya. So he had us in at least 3 at once. So if these guys aren't wackos they are hypocrites. I lean a little towards thinking they are wackos though, because they knew what they were getting themselves into.
  • watusiw... eNewsAl... 2012/05/30 00:43:17
    watusiwaldo
    +1
    mmm one good point...Obama jumped into Libya...but so? doesn't bear on the quiz question.
  • eNewsAl... watusiw... 2012/05/30 04:50:25
    eNewsAlerts
    I think it applies in showing hypocrisy. A lot of servicemen have died under Obama.
  • Manuel eNewsAl... 2012/07/11 03:07:37
    Manuel
    +1
    Saddam Hussein didn't attack our country dude...And America is the axis of evil when the GOP control it....
  • watusiw... eNewsAl... 2012/05/30 00:40:38
    watusiwaldo
    +1
    oh brother...but atleast you're consistently ignorant. Thought I'd check out this quiz and 'bingo' there you are. I guess it doesn't occur to you that these maybe some of the few non wackos and they actually recognize the repugnance of America's unsolicited, unwarranted and illegal interference in a sovereign nation...did I say interference? i meant murder. Of course you didn't...and I expected nothing more.
  • eNewsAl... watusiw... 2012/05/30 04:52:43
    eNewsAlerts
    glad to see you have such a high opinion of our brave soldiers. "these maybe some of the few non wackos..." Of course the hypocrisy in blaming Bush and ignoring all the military deaths under Obama is glaring. It is all about politics.
  • explorer1618 2012/05/21 18:04:52
    These Veterans are right.
    explorer1618
    +2
    Except they should be throwing them at all of the W. Bush administration and republican voters, Supreme Court that put him in office !
  • Manuel explore... 2012/05/22 02:01:24
  • eNewsAl... explore... 2012/05/22 16:48:02
    eNewsAlerts
    Back with the conspiracy theories and hanging chads. Lol.
  • watusiw... eNewsAl... 2012/05/30 00:44:36
    watusiwaldo
    +1
    huh, where's the conspiracy implication...do you just say things, not giving a crap if they make sense?
  • eNewsAl... watusiw... 2012/05/30 04:53:46
    eNewsAlerts
    It is a conspiracy theory to believe Bush was not elected. Having trouble keeping up?
  • Manuel eNewsAl... 2012/07/11 03:11:01
    Manuel
    fact is he wasn't ...they just gave it to him without full tally from Florida...
  • Manuel Revolut... 2012/05/22 02:03:40
    Manuel
    +1
    interesting and shocking....but a respected view...
  • Cookielane 2012/05/21 17:41:12
    These Veterans are right.
    Cookielane
    My son would disagree with them (Iraq 2003) but I don't.
  • Dagon 2012/05/21 17:14:00
  • Manuel Dagon 2012/05/21 17:53:36
    Manuel
    +1
    I can understand your views...but I think they have a point that I can understand as well,they did fight in the war and now they are out of it and now have the right to express their views as war vets...but sure they can't be doing this while still in service...,
  • Dagon Manuel 2012/05/21 18:02:29
  • Manuel Dagon 2012/05/22 02:11:48
    Manuel
    that's how you see it...and some one else will see it different...I wasn't military...so I have to see all vet views in the way they present it... I can't say one is worse or I disagree with this one or that one...because they all went to war for this country ...
    But posting this was more of a view on why this last war was for all the wrong reasons....
  • Dagon Manuel 2012/05/22 03:08:17 (edited)
  • Reichstolz 2012/05/21 17:12:47
    These Veterans are wackcos.
    Reichstolz
    +2
    In every crowd there is a minority that wants to get attention for being different. 50 soldiers, hardly a statement among the millions who have done tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. But as usual the left will hold these malcontents up as some sort of model citizens, and eventually it will be found out that they never spent a day in battle.
  • Manuel Reichstolz 2012/05/21 17:55:23
    Manuel
    there are probably many more back from the war who feel this way...
  • Reichstolz Manuel 2012/05/22 02:34:31
    Reichstolz
    +1
    Doubt it, I have come across three who held similar opinions, versus the thousands I have dealt with.
  • Manuel Reichstolz 2012/07/11 03:13:51
    Manuel
    the point is...there are 1000's not just located in your little part of this world...
  • Reichstolz Manuel 2012/07/11 04:34:01
    Reichstolz
    Sure and considering I live next to the biggest active duty Marine base and one of the largest Naval installations, where the Navy Seals are trained, I'm sure I am getting a skewed perspective of what service members feel. Considering San Diego has the largest community(over 26,000 strong) of returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, I am sure I am getting a skewed perspective. Since I have traveled to every major Army and Naval base hospitals, here and abroad, to do reconstructive surgeries on those who need to be fitted with prosthetic devices, I am sure I am getting a skewed perspective. Considering in my 80 home community, we have 53 active and former service member families, I am sure I am getting a skewed perspective.

    In case you cannot tell I have talked to more than a few service members, active and retired. And as I stated prior those who hold a negative view of their service are a minute minority. I would beg you to find me more than three who have actually served in combat, that would throw their service metals away, and if you do I would contend you have them do so in front of someone I just put a prosthetic leg or foot, on. If they are willing to do so they never understood the honor of the fallen among them.
  • Manuel Reichstolz 2012/07/11 04:39:11
    Manuel
    are you are being stupid about this?...you didn't get it...you may say their are 1000,0000 that are not like these guys and I could agreed with that ...but their are 1000's.....like them...not just 3....that's my point a minority can be 1000's in the numbers your speaking .
  • Reichstolz Manuel 2012/07/11 04:44:32
    Reichstolz
    Bring them to me PFC Hanson(who I fitted a full prosthetic leg on last month) would like to look in each one of their eyes. As I said they who don't value the fallen, should have never been soldiers and I will guarantee you they would not throw their metals away in front of one who has fallen, and is struggling to put the pieces of life back together. If they do they have no self respect.
  • Manuel Reichstolz 2012/07/18 23:25:31
  • Reichstolz Manuel 2012/07/18 23:28:13
    Reichstolz
    Bring them to me and I will have them throw their metals away in front of someone whose life will never be normal.
    You are using generalities that you cannot back up, which is typical for someone with no knowledge.
  • Manuel Reichstolz 2012/07/19 04:44:47
    Manuel
    I know vets as far back as Vietnam...and some kids that came home from Iraq on my block...boy they left as teens and are now like 22 years old?......

    they told me it all sucked and just could not understand why they were placed in a country that hates them for being there...and they told me some pretty sick things...some lady was cooking rat on a stick for her kids...because there was nothing else to eat...soldiers tried to give her food and she spit at their feet and spoke in her language ...which was interpret as cursing them and hoping God would strike them all dead...

    well they got a lot of that over there and it made them bitter and kinda hate Arabs...they called them Sand nig-gers..but of course they had some good times with some of the kids and families in what was considered better areas to live...but a lot of it was described as an endless ghetto with the smell of danger .. mixed with the other odors of human waste, death, gun power.and hash,,,,

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