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Veterans Group Calls on Soldiers to Refuse Orders to Deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq


by Dahr Jamail


Global Research, December 16, 2009
Truthout - 2009-12-14








In response to President Barack Obama's announcement on December 1 to deploy 30,000 additional troops to the occupation of Afghanistan, the organization March Forward!, with comprising both veterans and active-duty members of the US military, has called on all soldiers to refuse their orders to deploy.

"March Forward! calls on all service members to refuse orders to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq," reads a press release from the group from December 3. "We offer our unconditional support and solidarity. Join us in the fight to ensure that no more soldiers or civilians lose their lives in these criminal wars."

Michael Prysner, a former corporal in the Army who served from 2001-2005 and a veteran of the occupation of Iraq, co-founded the group with another Iraq war veteran, James Circello.

Truthout asked Prysner how he responds to those who believe a soldier should always follow orders, no matter what.

"In my experience the majority of people joining the military today join out of necessity, like money, jobs, help for their family, etc., so most don't join for ideological or patriotic reasons. Most are driven into the military by economic conditions. We see this playing out now, as people are joining in droves because of the economy."

Prysner added, "Yes, people do sign a contract to follow orders, but those orders are wrong and unlawful. We want to educate people to the fact that these are immoral orders, and they [soldiers] are being used as muscle for corporations, to colonize the developing world, and it's not legitimate. People who join and take this oath seriously who think they are in [the military] to defend the US, this is not what we are being used for in the military today."

Prysner has written about his experience in Iraq, "... there was no computer screen separating me from the suffering civilian population. I spent 12 months in Iraq, doing everything from prisoner interrogations, to ground surveillance missions, to home raids. It was my firsthand experiences in Iraq that radicalized me. I believed I was going to Iraq to help liberate and better the lives of an oppressed people, but I soon realized that my purpose in Iraq was to be the oppressor, and to clear the way for US corporations with no regard for human life."

After he separated from the Army in 2005, Prysner "understood that the occupation I was a part of was a crime against humanity. I understood that illegal conquering of Iraq was for profit, carried out by a system that serves a tiny class of super-rich whose endless drive for wealth is at the expense of working people in the United States and abroad."

According to Prysner, the lessons he learned from being part of the US occupation of Iraq taught him that, "I still had the same drive to fight for freedom, justice and equality as I did when I joined, and I understood that fighting for those things meant fighting against the US government, not on behalf of it."

To those who call him and his organization "anti-American" and/or "unpatriotic," Prysner has this to say:

"I would say that I have more in common with my sisters and brothers in Iraq and Afghanistan than I do with these people in DC who've sent us to war. If that's unpatriotic, then yes, I am. But patriotism and racism are the only things the military has to fall back on to convince people to do the things we are being asked to do today."

March Forward! was founded in 2008, and the aim of the organization is "to unite all those who have served and who currently serve in the US military, and who want to stand up for our rights and for that which is right."

"We are new and growing," Prysner explained. "We have seen somewhat consistent growth, and we're expecting this to accelerate now."

The group's statement from December 3 adds, "On December 1, we got a clear order from President Obama. For many more years, we will be sent to kill, to die, to be maimed and wounded, in a war where 'victory' is impossible, against a people who are not our enemies. For over eight years, we have come home in coffins, in wheelchairs, with our skin burned and with our days and nights haunted by the trauma of war. We return home to a VA whose services are so inadequate that active duty soldiers who succumb to suicide outnumber those killed in combat."

James Circello is a former Army sergeant and veteran of the US occupation of Iraq. Circello, who joined the military in 2001, describes his experience in Iraq as follows:

"During the occupation of Iraq, the truth about what the United States government has done to the country of Iraq became more apparent. Open wastewater flowed through neighborhood streets where children played soccer. Families were thrown out of their homes with simple accusations from others. Vehicles were taken on sight by the military if individuals couldn't provide proper documents claiming they own the vehicle. These events and others helped in strengthening my opposition to the so-called 'War on Terror.'"

In April 2007, Circello left his base in Vicenza, Italy, and went absent without leave (AWOL) in protest of US policy in the Middle East. In November 2007, he turned himself in to the military at Fort Knox and was discharged within three days.

Circello has remained very active with his work against US Foreign Policy, having worked with Iraq Veterans Against the War and the group Courage to Resist before joining March Forward!.

Circello's decision to go AWOL was his way of refusing to deploy to Afghanistan.

I had been fighting myself internally after my time in Iraq, about whether to deploy again," he explained to Truthout, "I ended up back in my old unit that was preparing to deploy, so at that moment I took it into my hands, and decided I wasn't going to go kill Afghans that had done nothing to me, or the American people. It was a defining moment for me."

According to Pentagon figures, since October 2001, more than 50,000 soldiers from all branches of the military have gone AWOL.

John Raughter is the communications director for the American Legion, an organization that describes itself as "a patriotic, war-time veterans organization, devoted to mutual helpfulness," according to its web site.

Raughter is clear about his stance on the rights of soldiers. "We have an all-volunteer force," he explained to Truthout, "These are not draftees. They swore an oath to obey the orders of the Commander in Chief."

According to Raughter, the American Legion does not, in any way, support AWOL soldiers or those who refuse to deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan. "Within reason, the military should be able to enforce obedience. Obedience and order are critical for the military to do its mission. People can't pick and choose which orders to obey and which not to [obey]. If it's a lawful order, they are obliged to obey."

Yet the oath enlisted soldiers must take before being deployed, reads:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Marjorie Cohn, president of the National Lawyers Guild, is the co-author of "Rules of Disengagement: The Politics and Honor of Military Dissent" with Kathleen Gilberd. In the book, they write, "Rules of Engagement limit forms of combat, levels of force, and legitimate enemy targets, defining what is legal in warfare and what is not. (They're also) defined by an established body of international (and US) law that leaves no ambiguity."

Cohn and Gilberd argue that every US war since WWII has been illegal. Article 51 of the UN Charter only permits the "right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member ... until the Security Council has taken measures to maintain international peace and security."

In addition, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 (the war powers clause) of the US Constitution authorizes only both houses of Congress, not the president, to declare war. Nonetheless, that process has been followed only five times in our history and last used on December 8, 1941, after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

Nevertheless, Raughter believes soldiers who are dissenting against the occupations should have never joined the ranks. "If they are ethically opposed to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, I would say that most of these people have enlisted or reenlisted since the beginning of the war. These wars were occurring when they made this oath of enlistment. It should have come to their minds."

Circello's response to those who refer to their tactic of encouraging soldiers to refuse deployment orders as being "unpatriotic or un-American?

"This is a tactic of demonization and we reject it," he explained, "The corporations profiting in these wars don't care about America or the American people. Is providing mercenaries to kill innocent people overseas, and bombs to kill innocent people, is that American and patriotic? The people who use these terms are demagogues. We can't forget that America was a land of institutionalized slavery, slavery was American, and folks like Dr. Martin Luther King, when they stood up to racism were called un-American ... so the same thing happens today. When you protest war, or call on soldiers to desert based on their own interest, you are called un-American."

Prysner and Circello's organization has stated, "March Forward! supports the right of all service members to refuse illegal and immoral orders. Orders to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq are just that: illegal and immoral. We have no reason to fight in these wars, and we have every right to refuse to be a part of them.



Dahr Jamail's new book, The Will to Resist: Soldiers Who Refuse to Fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, is now available. Order the book here http://tinyurl.com/cnlgyu. Visit Dahr Jamail's website http://dahrjamailiraq.com **

As one of the first and few unembedded Western journalists to report the truth about how the United States has destroyed, not liberated, Iraqi society in his book Beyond the Green Zone, Jamail now investigates the under-reported but growing antiwar resistance of American GIs. Gathering the stories of these courageous men and women, Jamail shows us that far from "supporting our troops," politicians have betrayed them at every turn. Finally, Jamail shows us that the true heroes of the criminal tragedy of the Iraq War are those brave enough to say no.

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  • Ladnar 2009/12/18 18:27:35
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    Our soldiers need to come and fight the war here at home. They need to lay siege to the White House and coup our Radical Leftist Muslim dictator.

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  • Charlie 2009/12/26 21:17:07
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    If you are in the military and you refuse to serve then you should go to the brig for at least 6 month and be discharged with a Bad Conduct Discharge.
  • irish -... Charlie 2009/12/28 14:25:25
    irish -liberty or death!
    and what if they all do this? it didn't happen to that guy who refused deployment a couple of months ago.
  • Ladnar 2009/12/18 18:27:35
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    Our soldiers need to come and fight the war here at home. They need to lay siege to the White House and coup our Radical Leftist Muslim dictator.
  • hook Ladnar 2009/12/19 14:07:32
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    arrrgh!! arrrgh
  • irish -... hook 2009/12/19 15:24:52
  • Duke----The Non Racist, Fun... 2009/12/18 18:20:23
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    Duke----The Non Racist, Funny Duke !
    +1
    Hello Love !! Thank you for you're truthful posting
  • irish -... Duke---... 2009/12/19 13:25:47
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    welcome duke!! good to see you!
  • Dagon 2009/12/18 17:24:51
  • AmmoLou Dagon 2009/12/18 19:10:10
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    Very well put! If any active duty, reserve whatever recivies and order that they can consifer illegal then they have the right to question that order iAW the UCMJ. But not following a order can get them into major SH**. I see more of the multinational Companies intrests rather then US intrests involved with the conflicts on going on.
  • Dagon AmmoLou 2009/12/19 01:21:22
  • irish -... AmmoLou 2009/12/19 13:27:07
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    definitely!
  • irish -... Dagon 2009/12/19 13:26:44
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    our reps haven't validated any of these wars ,thats the problem.
  • Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ 2009/12/18 17:02:22
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    The military IS NOT a democracy.
  • irish -... Scott ヶ... 2009/12/19 13:27:30
    irish -liberty or death!
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    and neither is the u.s.
  • Scott ヶ... irish -... 2009/12/19 15:24:04
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    Well if it isn't a democracy then shouldn't the American people fix that slight problem?

    I mean your 'for fathers' did fight for that, did they not.
  • irish -... Scott ヶ... 2009/12/19 15:26:00
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...



    the u.s was created as a republic,not a democracy! yes ,and its getting really aggravating trying to wake up the sheeple!
  • Scott ヶ... irish -... 2009/12/19 15:35:15
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    Fair enough, I just remember a saying:

    'America is the greatest (example of a) democracy in the world'....
  • irish -... Scott ヶ... 2009/12/19 16:15:32
    irish -liberty or death!
    america is not any example to live by. how can the u.s. tell others what a great country we are when they try to force by war our ways on others who do not want our ways? look at the fraud and graft in this country. america is a very poor example,very poor.
  • Scott ヶ... irish -... 2009/12/19 16:18:56
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
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    The Hollywood movies would disagree with you. For a lot of people who don't know a great deal about America they believe all the bull they get fed from that propaganda.


  • irish -... Scott ヶ... 2009/12/19 16:21:08
    irish -liberty or death!
    this is true and very sad. american politics and gov't need to be taught all through school. won't happen though . an ignorant populace is easy to control.
  • Scott ヶ... irish -... 2009/12/19 16:23:13
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
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    I will hate to see America in 20 years time, I'm sorry to say.
  • irish -... Scott ヶ... 2009/12/19 16:25:18
    irish -liberty or death!
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    me too unless we can effect real change.
  • Scott ヶ... irish -... 2009/12/19 16:28:10
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
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    Easier said than done.

  • irish -... Scott ヶ... 2009/12/19 16:31:28
  • Skeeter -Hmm, Hmm, Hmm 2009/12/18 16:20:01
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    Anyone who refuses to go needs to have their ass locked up.
  • irish -... Skeeter... 2009/12/19 13:28:38
    irish -liberty or death!
    why? if it is illegal its illegal. they didn't do anything to that guy who refused to go last year ,now did they? imagine if the whole army refused? what could they do? not a damn thing.
  • Skeeter... irish -... 2009/12/19 13:42:14
    Skeeter -Hmm, Hmm, Hmm
    If what it illegal?

    Most of the honorable ones who signed up to be in the military knew the possibility of going to war and will fulfill a duty they agreed to when they joined. You do know there isn't a draft anymore? It the dishonorable ones that don't want to go now yet who knew the possibility when they CHOSE to join. That's typical of many of the younger generation who commit to something then when it doesn't go their way, they think they can simply refuse to abide by what THEY agreed to do.
  • irish -... Skeeter... 2009/12/19 13:56:04
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    the wars are illegal wars! what you fail to realize is that most people don't know these wars are illegal. they are told and believe that they are defending their country. what they found out later is what makes them turn against the military. you do realize the military uses bribes to get people in the service, they promise anything that people jump at in these hard times .
  • Skeeter... irish -... 2009/12/19 15:13:06
    Skeeter -Hmm, Hmm, Hmm
    It's still ultimately the person's decision to join. While you may see them as illegal, many do not. However, it appears as if you believe the things they are being told that "makes them turn against the military" are true. Produce what you say exists or it's nothing more than your opinion. What you produce needs to be something more than opinions of those who signed up on their own and now don't want to do what the primary purpose of a military is so they think they can jump ship. I put them the same coward category as those who left the country and went to Canada in the 1960s and 1970s when Vietnam came around.
  • irish -... Skeeter... 2009/12/19 15:28:21
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

    it is not cowardly to fight against something that is wrong. dying is not honorable if it is ot truly fighting for your freedom. you seem to forget how many are brainwashed int thinking we are in danger. the primary purpose of the military is to defend this country not wage war against people who have not threatened us.
  • Skeeter... irish -... 2009/12/19 17:56:07
    Skeeter -Hmm, Hmm, Hmm
    It's cowardly to sign up to do something then run like a baby when it isn't something you wanted to do. Seeing that wrong is a relative term based on an individual's perception, they are AWOL and COWARDS if they don't so what they signed up to do. Too bad if they disagree. They are the ones in power making those decisions.
  • irish -... Skeeter... 2009/12/20 16:06:12
    irish -liberty or death!
    thats not the case is it? if you signed up for thinking it was for a good cause ,defending your country say,and find you you were lied to,what would you do? that is not being a coward at all. why die for a lie? or be maimed for a lie? the cowards are the ones who coerced the soldiers with lies and promises. those are the real cowards.

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