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VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

Autarchic 2011/12/02 16:21:55
AP - WASHINGTON D.C. -

In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College ... Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter...

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T!

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. ... Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won't survive much longer.
If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can,
because our country is being looted and ransacked!
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  • Ken Johnson 2012/01/08 02:01:10
    Ken Johnson
    +9
    Hey folks, ever heard of divide and conquer? That's what the establishment has done in the US behind a facade that they work against one another. They are complicit and simply distract us with BS to divide us.

    "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights to the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done...And I am Caesar." -Julius Caesar.

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  • Contrar... Steven ... 2012/01/07 21:50:36
    Contrarylady
    +2
    May I use this information on my facebook?
  • Steven ... 2012/01/07 22:18:12
    +1
    hey jackass lets compare!
    obama 8
    gw bush 55
    gh bush 51
  • Ken Johnson 2012/01/06 20:02:59
    Ken Johnson
    +3
    If we all were to look at the root of the evil in Washington...those who own the privately held bank that we call the Federal Reserve...then we would all realize that those currently in office and formerly in office have all been hand picked by the bankers who control the Fed, the big banks, industry and the government. The GOP knows that Obama doesn't have Constitutional right to serve as President, but the establishment Republicans don't care. They're on the same payroll as Obama, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, etc. This goes both ways. This isn't a partisan post, as most are nowadays. We, as a people, need to realize that the establishment GOP and establishment Democratic Party are simply different marketing arms of the bankers who pay them...to protect the status quo in Washington. The government gets its money from a PRIVATE BANK and we the people are on the hook to pay it back. Wars are started for profit...not because most of the planet consists of rogue dangerous nations. Wake up folks. We need to abolish the Fed as soon as possible and things will get much better for all of us.
  • GW Nelson 2012/01/06 16:43:17
    GW Nelson
    +2
    I am not clear on some facts on this issue. When he was born was one of his parents an American citizen? Why is the issue of a step-father relationship relevant? Were both parents a citizen of Kenya when he was born?
  • Autarchic GW Nelson 2012/01/06 16:53:55
    Autarchic
    +2
    ARTICLE II

    [5] No person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.
  • Cindy R... GW Nelson 2012/01/06 18:44:33
    Cindy Romano
    +3
    Plese go back to 7th grade civics. NATURAL BORN is the issue. Yes, his mother was a citizen, his father was not. Did you know that his father came here under a project of which Harry Belafonte and others put together to bring students from Kenya/Africia here? Turn off the damn TV and exercise your brain! There are a few exceptions to this, such as parent serving as an Ambassador, military, etc. and their child born out of our country. I think this applied to Sen.John McCain - as he was born in Panama, when his father was stationed there.
  • Agingst... Cindy R... 2012/01/06 20:34:46
    Agingstoner
    +1
    Deary, you're the one who needs to take civics over again. The fourteenth amendment clearly states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside". In other words, anyone born in the United States automatically becomes a citizen...it doesn't matter if one or both parents are here legally or illegally. This was settled in a case back in the 1890s in a case called United States V Kim Wong Ark, and has been upheld repeatedly This is what the "anchor baby" controversy is all about. In Obama's case, even if he had not been born in the U.S., he would still be a citizen under certain conditions: http://www.law.cornell.edu/us...
  • lain Agingst... 2012/01/07 10:55:59
    lain
    +2
    Unless his parents gave up his citizenship-both hated the USA and were communists(self avowed)-so why not -I value my citizenship-my family have been here since the 1600s and some before that (American indians)...so I think it of great importance to know why this man hides so much-it's a VERY BIG DEAL....if you got nothing to hide.....??? By the way your a male chavanist and it makes what you have to say immediately turn to BLAH BLAH BLAH in my head-drop the deary!
  • Agingst... lain 2013/05/25 03:59:32 (edited)
    Agingstoner
    He's not hiding a thing, except in the minds of you paranoid conspiracy theorists.
  • henry s... Cindy R... 2012/01/07 02:16:26
    henry serra
    +4
    You must be born in AMERICAN soil!! Bottom line!!
    When he is found let it be shouted From the mountain tops as Scripture saids, " there's nothing that is kept in secret that wont come out into the light" This man does as he pleases appointing people he wants with out consulting Congress, signing bills like S.1867 wich was voted in secret wich is unconstitutional. This diabolical bill that's rapes our very civil rights!! What spell does this man have that some people tho knowing the truth turn their heads as they are fine in their comfort zone. These people have become spineless Americans that don't wana make no waves.I look to the day when the shackles will come off my country tis of thee! Sweet land of liberty of thee I sing!! And like Martin Luther king said in the words of that old negro hymnal " FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY IAM FREE AT LAST!!!
    GOD BLESS AMERICA! !!
  • DustonB... Cindy R... 2012/01/07 05:08:55
    DustonBarto
    +3
    Any child born to an American citizen is an American Citizen by birth no matter where in the world they were born. My daughter was born in the Philippines and I am an american Citizen but her mother is not. All I had to do was complete a simple application and prove my citizenship and the fact that she is my daughter and we got a certificate which shows that she is a citizen by birth. This satisfies the "Natural Born" requirement. My daughter has the right to run for the office of President when she is of age.
  • truthserum DustonB... 2012/01/07 17:34:31
    truthserum
    Only because and if current federal law accord that status to her. Prior versions of governing federal law have varied. The question of Kenya or not depends on the fact that his mother, alone, could not be the conduit to natural born citizenship if Obama was born in Kenya.
  • lain GW Nelson 2012/01/07 10:39:32
    lain
    +4
    His mother's second husband was indonesian and adopted him (was not a step-father). That last name was Soetoro-the name he attended Occidental College under as a foreign student from indonesia-Barry Soetoro-as noted he received scholarship that required foreign citizenship-the story I read was when he was adopted his new father also changed or gave him dual citizenship-either makes him ineligible for the presidency. So why has he taken great pains to hide his past-I did note on the "birth certificate " from the USA that was shown as his, did not have the legal indentation of the seal of the state -without the seal it is not a legal birth certificate-mine has one( my legal one needed for various things thruout life here in the states).Your legal one will have one also and be signed.
  • Fashion... lain 2012/01/08 01:58:50
    Fashionable60s
    +1
    It is a fact that Indonesia does not have a treaty with the US to grant dual citizenship unlike Britain or France, to give you two examples, that allow their citizens to be both US and British and/or French citizenship. Whatever citizenship Obama had at that time, the adoption did not change his original citizenship. It is common practice in Indonesia that if the head of the family is Indonesian and Muslim, it is common, on a pro forma basis, to grant everybody in the household the same citizenship and religion when they get their identity cards. It would become an issue if Obama ever travelled out of the country with one passport and came back with another, this would cause the immigration official at the airport to confiscate one passport or both. Nobody knows at this point if he ever travelled with an Indonesian passport any where. This would make a great investigative story.
  • neverhome GW Nelson 2012/01/07 12:06:00
    neverhome
    +3
    His mother was not of the required age and had not been living in the US for the required amount of time for her citizenship to affect little Barry's.
  • truthserum GW Nelson 2012/01/07 17:32:03
    truthserum
    At the time of his birth, his mother was a native born citizen of the United States and his father a Kenyan subject. If he were born in Kenya (IF), then the question of his status as a "Natural born citizen" would be resolved by examining the federal law governing the "natural born citizen" status of children born abroad to American citizens.

    In this case, the governing law, as I understand it to have been, would have not accorded natural born citizen status to Obama.
  • Contrar... GW Nelson 2012/01/07 21:53:06
    Contrarylady
    +1
    No. They were all CIA made, check out his grandfather, where this is most evident, and obummer serves the purpose of destroying america only.
  • gtorborg77 2012/01/06 16:20:12
    gtorborg77
    +1
    I've long said he needs to be impeached. With this issue, particularly if there is proof, there needs to be much more - nullification.

    Look it up.
  • rrjdean 2012/01/06 16:00:22
    rrjdean
    +3
    You all really need to get a life! You have tried over and over to discredit the POTUS and have failed at every turn. You really need to be worried about the issues of the day like NDAA, SOPA, Citizens United,H.R. 3166 and S. 1698, the banks and Wall Street bailouts and why no one has been help responsible, unemployment, healthcare shall I go on. Oh wait you are all probably in favor of these issues.
    POTUS was born here in the USA and we have seen his birth certificate. The only reasons you keep doing this is 1) he is Democrat 2) because a Black Man was able to become President. If you don't like him vote his ass out this year. Now shut up and focus on the real issues!
  • Cindy R... rrjdean 2012/01/06 18:48:43
    Cindy Romano
    +4
    He is a bi-racial man, not a black man. I don't like either side of him. Quit playing the race card. If you want equals - then race is not and should not be the issues in any discussion. The media surely playes his black-half to the extreme and this time, it got his elected. Blacks voted for his as a "black man" regardless of his credentials, experience or politics. We got change alright!
  • Ken Joh... rrjdean 2012/01/06 20:00:16
    Ken Johnson
    +3
    If we all were to look at the root of the evil in Washington...those who own the privately held bank that we call the Federal Reserve...then we would all realize that those currently in office and formerly in office have all been hand picked by the bankers who control the Fed, the big banks, industry and the government. The GOP knows that Obama doesn't have Constitutional right to serve as President, but the establishment Republicans don't care. They're on the same payroll as Obama, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, etc. This goes both ways. This isn't a partisan post, as most are nowadays. We, as a people, need to realize that the establishment GOP and establishment Democratic Party are simply different marketing arms of the bankers who pay them...to protect the status quo in Washington. The government gets its money from a PRIVATE BANK and we the people are on the hook to pay it back. Wars are started for profit...not because most of the planet consists of rogue dangerous nations. Wake up folks. We need to abolish the Fed as soon as possible and things will get much better for all of us.
  • Steven ... rrjdean 2012/01/06 20:47:41
    Steven Aufiero
    +4
    These are the real ISSUES,unless you`ve been asleep since 2008.Our country is in jeopardy of being ruled by a lying Marxist Dictator.He wants to make decisions without the approval of any other government branch,he`s been wiping his arse with OUR Constitution,that our forefathers bled and died for.What the hell did he ever sacrifice.He is taking away our rights as citizens and should be in prison for treason.Democracy is the government of the people, by the people and for the people.Under a dictatorship, the government is run by one person who has absolute power over the people in a country.That is what Obama wants to be,a Dictator.If you like to be controlled like that RRJDEAN,then move to CUBA!!!!
  • lain Steven ... 2012/01/07 11:08:02
    lain
    +2
    Amen Steven!!
  • Warrior Steven ... 2012/01/23 16:09:33
    Warrior
    Kudos to you Steven... hit the nail right on the head.
  • henry s... rrjdean 2012/01/07 02:22:07
    henry serra
    +2
    OMG LET ME GET OUT MY VIOLIN!! PLAYING THE BLACK CARD!! ITS ABOUT THE TRUTH NOT COLOR!!
    YES I MENTIONED A LIL SOMETHING ABOUT AMERICANS LIKE YOU!! AND THE BAND PLAYED ON!! GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY!!!
  • lain rrjdean 2012/01/07 11:03:26
    lain
    +1
    Your a bigot and a racist-none of these issues would be issues if the POTUS WAS NOT THE POTUS-YOU LIBERALS ALWAYS REVERT BACK TO THOSE STANDARD STATEMENTS-let us know when you have something intelligent to say you racist ......
  • suzanne... rrjdean 2012/01/07 13:47:59
    suzanne anthony
    +3
    I'm glad to hAve come up on your post!!!!! Seems like it was a long wait to. See what,the real problem is!!!! It is one hundrEd percent about color, don't know what made one race better than the other to begin with. However I'm a cAnadiAn and I say leave the man alone. He has done great and trying to fix. What no one has been Able to fix! With that said yes people leave the man Alone, he won WHOOOHOOO A BLACK MAN IN THERE! There is hope thAt we will all eventually one day see we All as one!
  • truthserum rrjdean 2012/01/07 17:38:43
    truthserum
    The man discredits himself.

    He has done so consistently since the oaf (deliberate misspelling) of office in 2009. Bowing and scraping, apologizing, raising leftist, communist, hacks to positions of power only to allow them to swing in the wind, failing to timely act to reduce fuel costs, failing to timely act to reduce bloated unemployment, leading by blame when he leads at all, and occupying congress with his illegal phony recess appointments.

    There seems to be no level of stupidly incompetent misleadership to which Obama cannot stoop for America to be conquered.
  • Burney ... rrjdean 2012/01/07 18:59:49
    Burney Burgstiner
    +1
    hey, check out www.walterewilliams.com website. I think you will be enlightened on how obama has hurt this country with his economic policies and socialistic views on what he thinks America should be. Worst president in history and you can bet i will vote against his black-white ass.
  • T MAC rrjdean 2012/01/09 09:30:03
    T MAC
    He was born here, you sure? Have you met anyone who knew as a child? Have you or anyone else heard anyone talk about how good a student he was in High School or what a ball player he was, or what a great speaker he was on debate team at _______ High School. No because the there are no such people. But oh yeah there was one group. But they were set a side because they come from Kenya. They even built him a statue...... But the only think you can say is a faked birth certificate proves he's an American. To use your ace in the hole, people question his birth certificate because he's a black man... So tell me if he were white would these questions be out of line or would you yourself be demanding these questions be asked????
  • BigBrutha 2012/01/06 15:38:30
    BigBrutha
    +2
    Doesn't matter where his father was born. He was born in Hawaii, after 1959, to a U.S. citizen mother. He's a citizen. Case closed. It's not some giant conspiracy, looney toons, you're just WRONG. Accept it, this is soooooo old now.
  • Falcons... BigBrutha 2012/01/06 17:28:01
    Falconsixone
    +3
    Case is not closed BB. If he traveled to Pak. (he did) how did he get there? They don't give Indo/Brit or American passports to foreigners (thus the different counrys names). You cant go to Indo. and say give me a passport without Indo. citizenship (Birth cert. or became citizen of that country at which point you gave up your citizenship somewhere else, unless your an israeli/american congressmen/senator/mayor of course). You cant be pres. without being born in america. Get it? He was and still is CIA so this will go nowhere before the collapes so dont worry to much about poor little barry soetoro.
  • BigBrutha Falcons... 2012/02/01 15:09:14
    BigBrutha
    That didn't make one bit of sense. Here, I'm pressing "1" for English. Please try again. Why would Pakistan be issuing "Indo/Brit" (whatever that is) or American passports? There was no travel ban with Pakistan in 1981, that is nonsense (http://www.snopes.com/politi... And btw, the U.S. allows dual-citizenship with many countries (although that doesn't matter here, because B.O. held a U.S. passport). Obama WAS born in America, so what the HELL are you talking about?!
  • Maxx Po... BigBrutha 2012/01/06 18:55:08
    Maxx Powers
    +3
    apparently something is up if the case made it all of the way to the Supreme Court!! and kept quiet too!! I am pretty sure stupid little nut job cases don't make it that far in the court system..
  • Toni.Pr... Maxx Po... 2012/01/06 21:54:25
    Toni.Priore
    +3
    Yes because nut job cases like Corperations being people never make it right? And those of you believing this are the biggest nut jobs of all. Get a life!!!
  • lain Toni.Pr... 2012/01/07 11:13:53
    lain
    +3
    You are reading this so you must need a life also and some new glasses(-uggggly-I'm just sayin)
  • Toni.Pr... lain 2012/01/13 23:04:37
    Toni.Priore
    I have a very full life... What's your excuse?!?!?! I know YOU need to get a life and new glasses!!!
  • Steven ... BigBrutha 2012/01/06 20:56:29
  • Dave.S831 BigBrutha 2012/01/07 05:06:51
    Dave.S831
    +5
    actually in his case...where he was born doesnt even matter...when you are a minor your parents decisions concerning you are legal and binding....when they moved to indonesia his mother renounced their US citizenship, because Indonesia didnt allow dual citizenship...his mother LEGALLY made him Indonesian and gave away his American birthright...like it or not...thats the legality of it...and what matters is the constitution and the legality...not what you or I think.
  • lain Dave.S831 2012/01/07 11:16:04
    lain
    So there GW Nelson is the rest of the answer..

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