US was the first and "only" country to use Nukes on People!

The Truth, But It was WAR time!

And saved the lives of 2-3 million Americans and Japanese, not to conquer, but to defeat an evil enemy. Today Japan is a pearl of the orient, one of the most successful economies in the world. They could have had this peacefully but chose another path. It was Amercian blood and treasure that made this possible. Certainly we greave the lose of 200,000 "innocent" citizens of that country, as the world morned the murder and butchery of Nanking by these same people.

Yes. It's true. And it was a regrettable way to end a war. But it was a war that we did not start, and those two bombs did, in fact, end it.

It's true. Will we remain the only?

this is a FACT!!! that's one reason why the Gov't wanted to enter WW2, the nukes were actually in process before the war and FDR wanted to try them out to show the world he was the most powerful person on the planet (NWO before it was called out 50 years later)

FDR wasn't president when they were dropped. It was Truman who gave the order.

and top "german" scientists were involved in their development, hardly before the war. Also, not only germany but Japan were working on developing A-Bombs, I would guess for the liberal spin heads out there it would have only been fair to let them have "firsties" with the bomb.

well FDR died prematurely... the bomb was already in exsistance before he died.

That's true. But to suggest that we entered the war just so FDR could "try out" some nukes is false.

well we did enter the war under false pretences... we provoked the situation... and why did we declare war the day after declaring against japan? Germany didn't attack our base. I minored in WWII history education. Pretty much all conflicts our Government has taken part in, have been provoked or false flag agenda's.

What false pretenses are you referring to? Are you really of the belief that we should not have gotten involved in WWII? And if you really minored in WWII history you would be aware that Germany and Japan were allies. Furthermore, Germany was already at war with many of our allies. It was necessary.

actually Japan and Germany were not direct allies. We knew well ahead of time about Japan hitting Hawaii. We also were provoking Japan with our presence in their territory islands. Also FDR had a hatred for Japan before he was even elected in 1932

Japan signed a treaty with Germany and Italy in 1936.

That we knew well ahead of time about the attack is a conspiracy theory that has not been substantiated.

Which Japanese territories were we occupying prior to Pearl Harbor?

What is your evidence regarding this hatred FDR had for Japan prior to the war?

Inside the Japaneese government was a powerful faction led by Prime Minister Prince Fumimaro Konoye that desperately did not want a war with the United States


On July 25, 1941, FDR froze all Japanese assets in the United States, ending all exports and imports, and denying Japan the oil upon which the nation and empire depended.

At a Nov. 25 meeting of FDR’s war council, Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s notes speak of the prevailing consensus: “The question was how we should maneuver them (the Japanese) into ... firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”

Of course there were factions that did not want war. Yamamoto himself knew it would end Japan, but he still followed orders and attacked.

We froze Japanese assets in response to the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China.

And on November 26, the Japanese fleet set sail for Pearl to launch an attack that had been months in the planning. It sounds as if you believe Japan was innocent in all this, and it was all aggression through manipulation on the part of America.

no, I never said japan was innocent, however neither was the US. and FDR still hated Japan even before he became president. AND why did we declare war on Germany the next day? Did germany attack us? granted Hitler wasn't a 'nice' person.. AND Hitler was pissed at Japan for waking the giant (USA)

Because it was the right thing to do.

there's nothing right about any war!

That's a clever little cliche. So you're saying it was the wrong thing for America to enter the war?

not the way the Gov't schemed the events. every war/conflict the US has been involved in was either a false flag war or could have been avoided through diplomacy.

I give up. You can go on blaming America for all the worlds ills. I'll leave you to it.

Good day.

not the world's ill's other countries do their fair share of self destruction. Do you really think attacking Iraq was necessary? Why did Kennedy get shot? because he wouldn't attack Cuba (operation Northwoods). Why were we in Vietnam? did North Vietnam really attack our navy?

And 9/11 was an inside job and the entire Apollo moon program was staged. I get it.

Later.

as for the moon, I really don't care, no one was killed over it (other than equipment malfunctions)...

You seem to be intellegent... you can honestly state that what the Gov't and media told about 9/11 is totally honest and happened exactly as they stated? there's not even one spec of doubt from any picture, report, activity that would have you question validity?

This began as somewhat of an intelligent discussion. But I'm really not here to debate crazy conspiracy theories.

so you totally believe 9/11 happened exactly as we were told?

the day after I had serious questions about events as reported based on just one little detail. the fire trucks at the pentagon were not being operated properly for a "plane" crash. I know this because I was the trainer for those trucks from 1990-1995. I trained over 1000 fire fighters how to use these trucks and at least that many technicians on repairing them.

The fact I saw one flaw in the whole series of events caused me to question. If you never ask a question, you are either arrogant or stupid.

Seriously. Have a nice day.

I'll have a nice day once you wake up. you refuse to face reality? or at least question what you are told?

I have questioned. And I'm satisfied.

so you found nothing in 9/11 that even remotely defies any part of of the offical report and media statements? you totally believe every aspect of pictures, statements, reports that it all went down with 19 terrorists?

you don't find it odd that a building just fell down w/o major damage? did it just commit suicide?

how strong is your physics background? mine is solid along with engineering.

questioning is NOT conspiracy theory.... investigating becomes theory... descrepancies become possibilities, facts turn into probablities and proof becomes a CONSPIRACY.

How did you come up with this one??

study NON-MSM history books. When I was in college, getting my minor in WWII history (over 25 years ago), I interview over 40 WWII veterans from all different ranks and tours. There's a lot of BS fed to us back then... just as bad as 9/11 and Obamanation.

is non-msm history non mainstream?

I have several relatives that were high ranking military during WW2 and they never mentioned this. One of my relatives was retired a full general. He only spit venom for Germans so I don't know if he would have said anything anyway.

I did a lot of history classes but I never heard this. Did they really teach this?

How did we provoke Hitler towards the final solution and the attempt to rule the world?

I know that we were in competition with Japan for resources but do you think that caused politicians to force their sneak attack?

Who do you blame 911 on?

I'm with you on the Obamanation thing.

there is no way middle eastern "terrorists" brought down 3 skyscrapers with 2 planes... there is no way a plane hit the pentagon.

FDR HATED Japan even before he was elected in 1932... When Japan started showing strength in Asian-Pacific, he wanted to take them out.. however our Congress wouldn't allow it as it was none of our business. So provoking Japan instigated Pearl harbor. The Gov't knew well ahead of time that Japan was planning the attack. notice one key factor.. ALL air craft carriers happened to be out when the attack occured. the build time of all other navel vessels is less than 1/4 time as a carrier, so why not just sacrafice some battle ships for a great "Patriotic" effect.

I know that they probably allowed the "sneak" attack since there was virtually no public support for any action that was that far from American Coastline. the country basked in it isolation. But there was a lot of political factors around the world that led up to WW2. I find it hard to believe that the hatred of FDR is the only reason we fought WW2. And that still doesn't explain the German ambition that would not have been satisfied without eventually annexing the USA.

As for 911, I do find is suspicious that the third building fell from just a splatter of debris and no fire, Also that the insured got paid twice and that all of the Enron and World Com evidence was destroyed in the carnage, You think that is another "patriotic" effect conspiracy?

I was a volunteer a few blocks away from the ground zero.

I don't "think" I know it was a conspiracy.

the order of questioning an event as being not what it appears starts:
conspiracy theory
conspiracy possibility
conspiracy probablity
conspiracy---- no doubt...

When FDR became president in 1933, the U.S. government fell under the control of a man who disliked the Japanese and harbored a romantic affection for the Chinese because, some writers have speculated, Roosevelt’s ancestors had made money in the China trade. rosevelt also disliked the Germans (and of course Adolf Hitler), and he tended to favor the British in his personal relations and in world affairs. He did not pay much attention to foreign policy, however, until his New Deal began to peter out in 1937. Afterward, he relied heavily on foreign policy to fulfill his political ambitions, including his desire for reelection to an unprecedented third term.

Japan was invading China for resources, This caused FDR to plan retaliation against Japan, however congress and public opinion tied his hands.

What did he gain?
How come it wasn't apparent to the opposing political party and the powerful generals / war machine that marched on his whim??

He was slick but I don't know if he was that all encompassing in his reach.

Where can I read about this?
I always appreciate another perspective.
Especially when it is offered in the gentlemen like manner in which you shared. So many on here just call me high horsed or stupid if I don't just agree with them right off the bat.

irrational rebuttal is so typical of liberal rhetoric.

How is it that 9/11 hasn't been formally confronted and disclosed in MSM??? (rhetorical question)... even the possiblity which cannot be denied unless one is totally oblivious to reality.

There can be many similarities of entering WWII and attacking Iraq (lots of oil) and attacking Afganistan (lots of Lithium).

BTW, nearly 100,000 people were involved in the Manhattan Project. not one spilled info outside their group.... think 9/11 players could do the same thing? so-far so-good (or bad)

and there wasn't nearly as much money to be had by the 100,000 in the Manhattan project. (Oppenheimer did share the big secrets with the Russians)

I always say that we can only go by what we are told.
I bet even the leaked or observed stuff is made for us to see so we can come up with what they want us to think anyway. There is really no way to know anything. I was mystified by those floating orbs and the huge bump on the bottom of that plane just before it hit.

I don't even think we vote in a politician or anything they do actually matters. World is run by the Rothschilds.

and Soros and bloomburg and other members of the NWO.