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U.S. Stalls $1M Italian Supercar Over Airbags: Are Regulations Too Strict?

SodaHead News 2011/08/11 13:59:44
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Even as President Obama signed off on a historic pact to raise fuel economy standards for the nation's trucking fleet, federal safety regulators have put the kibosh on the sale of a new $1 million, 700-horsepower Italian supercar called the Huayra.

But according to CNN, carmaker Pagani wasn't bounced because of the vehicle's environmental impact. In fact, the car meets European emission standards and boasts reduced CO2 emissions and fuel consumption that makes it top among V12-powered exotic vehicles.

Believe it or not, the reason is because safety regulators rejected Pagani's application for an exemption from federal auto safety rules requiring child-safe "advanced" airbags. Yeah, child-safe airbags in a 12-cylinder carbon-titanium car built to zero to 60 in about 3.5 seconds.

Pagani said complying with the rules would cause "substantial economic hardship." The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration didn't buy the financial hardship angle and didn't think the company had made a serious effort to comply.

The NHTSA sometimes makes temporary exemptions from some safety rules for automakers who only sell a small number of cars and Pagani was trying to break into the U.S. market with the car, which it figured on selling five of in 2012.

The small independent automaker built and crash-tested the hand-made vehicles to meet safety standards in the U.S. and Europe and it asked for the exemption three years ago, but only got word of the NHTSA decision as it was preparing for the car's official unveiling in Los Angeles last week.

The official sale date for the vehicle in the U.S. has now been pushed to 2013 as engineers work on an advanced airbag system.
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  • the fuze 2011/08/11 16:14:12
    No
    the fuze
    +2
    Warning label should suffice. I really wonder how many kids will be riding in the passenger seat of these cars anyway. I'd be surprised if it was one.
  • Charles E the fuze 2011/08/11 16:20:24
    Charles E
    +1
    They only plan on selling 5, so I must agree with you.
  • mike j 2011/08/11 16:12:38
    Yes
    mike j
    if you want to buy and operate a car without safety devices , then you sure should be able to do that in America , Home of the Free ! But , that does not mean that you can buy collision insurance to cover the loss of that car , And you will be required to have a heavy duty liability policy for your car paid up before you are allowed on the street with it .
  • Charles E mike j 2011/08/11 16:23:10
    Charles E
    +1
    One in five US drivers has no auto insurance. But I doubt if any of them could afford a million dollar car, much less even minimum insurance coverage on one.
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2011/08/11 16:09:46
    Yes
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Most cars offer marginal to poor crash protection for children in the passenger seat anyway. Most cars on the road today have airbags not appropriate for children (and lots of warning labels to that effect).

    Considering how unlikely it is that children would ride in the car, I find it hard to believe they need anything more than a warning label. This is not a car for a soccer mom to transport her kid to a game.

    Considering what the car costs, it's cheaper to go flying. I can do 120 in a Cessna with no airbags, no police radar, no TSA, and no traffic delays.
  • SmithBandit 2011/08/11 16:02:47
    Yes
    SmithBandit
    +11
    Let people who need child-safe cars buy them
  • Charles E SmithBa... 2011/08/11 16:23:51
    Charles E
    Good reply!
  • SmithBa... Charles E 2011/08/11 20:12:37
    SmithBandit
    Good reply yourself!
  • flrdsgns 2011/08/11 16:01:50
    Yes
    flrdsgns
    +3
    Though I think many of the regulations are a good idea, putting child safety features on what is essentially a race/sports car is ludicrous. If I had a million bucks to plop down on a car, this wouldn't be the "family" car.
  • Charles E flrdsgns 2011/08/11 16:26:38
    Charles E
    +2
    The problem is you are smarter than the people making the rules. Probably smarter than any three of them combined.
  • flrdsgns Charles E 2011/08/11 23:31:01
    flrdsgns
    +1
    some of them are pretty smart, I just think they get carried away with the power they wield. I honestly many enter Washington with the idea they can change things for the better and then the system corrupts them with money and power. It's a shame really, I don't know how to fix that.
  • Charles E flrdsgns 2011/08/15 14:51:44
    Charles E
    I may have confused "smart" with "rational".

    You are right that too many get a little power and cease thinking rationally.
  • flrdsgns Charles E 2011/08/15 14:55:06
    flrdsgns
    +1
    I'm thinking rational is a word unknown in Washington!
  • Charles E flrdsgns 2011/08/15 15:03:09
    Charles E
    +1
    About the only place you will find rational is a dictionary collecting dust in the Library of Congress.
  • WankerBait 2011/08/11 16:01:14
    No
    WankerBait
    +1
    These airbags are standard in every other car. The manufacture must be kidding itself into thinking their car is too sexy for children to be in the passenger's seat...
  • Charles E WankerBait 2011/08/11 16:29:11
    Charles E
    +1
    The problem is not lack of airbags. It is that neither of the two seats have airbags rated safe for children. This, from a government that requires most children to ride in a rear seat, which this car does not have.
  • WankerBait Charles E 2011/08/11 16:36:56
    WankerBait
    Actually, there is no reason for a child-safe airbag in the drivers seat, but just as in every other vehicle sold in the USA, there is the need in the passenger's seat. The government doesn't require children to ride in non-existent seats, only that they protected in the seats they're in.

    It's not like their engineers have to re-invent anything. The effing car goes for a cool $million. Adding a child safety air-bag has nothing to do with cost, it's merely their concern for aesthetics...
  • dePSyChO 2011/08/11 15:56:32
    Yes
    dePSyChO
    +1
    In this case, yes.

    >Italian supercar
    >child airbags
    >child

    Anyone else see the bad logic here.
  • Charles E dePSyChO 2011/08/11 16:31:32
    Charles E
    +2
    I do, but we are talking about a government agency. Therefore any logic is forbidden.
  • KB 2011/08/11 15:55:16
    No
    KB
    +1
    I wouldn't want to see any child hurt or dead.
  • Charles E KB 2011/08/11 16:32:36
    Charles E
    +3
    Then don't put them in a two seat car designed to exceed 100 mph.
  • nick n. 2011/08/11 15:53:54 (edited)
    Yes
    nick n.
    +1
    The seat belts are going to be 4 or 5 way restraints like in race cars and fighter aircraft. Needing an airbag is moot anyway and just extra weight.
  • M.C nick n. 2011/08/11 15:55:43 (edited)
    M.C
    +1
    no it dont have seat belts like that. huyra
  • mike j M.C 2011/08/11 16:14:27
    mike j
    +1
    leave it to the Italians to have a sexy looking exterior sports car , and then just ruin it with this kind of interior , just ruined the whole looks for me .
  • M.C mike j 2011/08/11 16:48:54
    M.C
    +1
    just your opinion, nobody builds better performing or better looking cars than the italians.
  • whipnet M.C 2011/08/12 13:08:16
    whipnet
    just your opinion. :)
  • nick n. M.C 2011/08/12 00:10:05
    nick n.
    Is that the Huayra?
  • M.C nick n. 2011/08/12 02:44:48
    M.C
    yes
  • nick n. M.C 2011/08/12 03:14:49 (edited)
    nick n.
    Then I have to stand corrected. I thought it was a different kind of car. Apparently it needs an airbag on the driver's side and a douchebag on the other. I get it, it's a camper.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2011/08/11 15:52:52
    Yes
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +1
    They do need airbags, but they don't need to go overboard. Seatbelts are much more important, and the most important thing of all is for the driver to not be an idiot and drive like a maniac. Also, I think the customer should decide whether they consider them important, and buy a car that conforms to the safety they see as required.
  • Charles E Anonymo... 2011/08/11 16:35:30
    Charles E
    +3
    Letting a customer decide is so anti big government. If the customer decides, where will all the rule making pinhead parasites find jobs?
  • luke 2011/08/11 15:51:58 (edited)
    Yes
    luke
    +3
    Regulations like this should not be applied to supercars and hypercars that have only 2 seats.

    Also rappers only buy Lamborghini or Ferrari because those two companies have more notoriety than Pagani, Pagani has only been around since 1992, and the Zonda only debuted in 1999, where as Ferrari was founded in 1929 as has been producing cars for a while, same goes for Lamborghini, even though they were only founded in 1963, the still have produced more cars than Pagani and have more notoriety. Pagani has only built the Zonda so far and they are currently working on the Huayra, the Zonda's replacement
  • AtlBo 2011/08/11 15:49:35
    No
    AtlBo
    +2
    I am assuming that this means that for the car to be street legal it must have airbags. I say every new car should have them. I have seen WAY too many stories, videos, and pictures and have witnessed too many horrifying crash scenes to think ANY other way on this issue. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO...
  • M.C AtlBo 2011/08/11 15:52:24
    M.C
    +2
    it has airbags, just not the ones that automatically know when a child is in the passenger seat.
  • luke AtlBo 2011/08/11 16:22:29 (edited)
    luke
    +2
    There are quite a few street legal cars without airbags, The Noble M600, Caparo T1 (a street legal F1 car mind you), TVR Sagaris and Tuscan, just to name a few. But this is talking about child safe airbags, now honestly if I were a parent and I was taking my child somewhere I would NOT take my supercar. I'd take something more refined and safe, let's say a Jaguar XFR or a Jaguar XK, or a Vauxhall VXR8. Requiring a state-of-the-art supercar or hypercar to have child-safe airbags is just plain daft.
  • Charles E AtlBo 2011/08/11 16:38:52
    Charles E
    It has two airbags. One for each seat. They just do not meet child safety requirements.
    Would you put your small child in this car under any circumstances?
    Neither would anyone else, except a government regulator looking for more power.
  • AtlBo Charles E 2011/08/11 18:40:20
    AtlBo
    I understand all the points, but there might be a child in one. I ran across a story that changed my mind completely on automobile safety. A mother of 3 children between the ages of 3 and 5 survived a grose as hell wreck in a minivan that killed all her children. I'm at the end of the line with this issue. We also had an unbelievable wreck here in town involving a Ferrari. The driver was a famous hockey player (not Kovalchuk). He hit a steel and brick wall and the car split in half. His best friend and teammate died that night. Maybe the airbags aren't the answer for these types of wrecks, but it's more about REALLY raising the conciousness of people about safety. We need safe cars and drivers, not safer...
  • Charles E AtlBo 2011/08/15 14:58:46
    Charles E
    I think we agree that much of the problem is a need for smarter drivers.
    Hardware can only do so much to protect us from stupid drivers.
  • American Mercenary 2011/08/11 15:43:51
    No
    American Mercenary
    No not until they install cell phone jammers and milage counters. That to me is when the line is crossed.
  • mattamo2001 2011/08/11 15:43:51
    Yes
    mattamo2001
    yes

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