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U.S. officials are investigating whether the murder Tuesday of the U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other American officials was a coordinated strike timed for the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks -- and not the result of a protest against an anti-Islam film.
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  • Daryl 2012/09/12 20:50:00
    Yes
    Daryl
    +22
    Let me see...did these murders take place on a day significant to Islamic militants?

    Let me see....

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  • deborah sletten 2012/09/13 08:30:02
    Yes
    deborah sletten
    +5
    God! If it smells like a fish, most likely it's a fish.
  • HillaryLover 2012/09/13 07:55:33
    Yes
    HillaryLover
  • Mikado Hikyuu 2012/09/13 07:22:34
    No
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +2
    Every time 9/11 comes, no matter how completely and slowly the shows explain exactly what happened, the paranoid conspiracy idiots seem to creep out of their bunkers in large mobs online, to once again try and convince the world that what so many people actually LIVED through was some mass conspiracy plot.

    Absolutely rubbish.

    The reason for the attack on the US embassy in Benghazi was readily admitted, screamed in fact by the protesters - so why is Fox (faux) news service attempting to twist it into some thing completely false with absolutely NO evidence at all to support such a claim?

    Ratings.

    Are people still so ignorant that even now 11 years later they would still be so easily mislead by conspiracy wackos?

    Apparently some still are.

    And that is so very sad.
  • Franklin Mikado ... 2012/09/13 10:30:36
    Franklin
    +4
    the video is 6 months old , why wait till 9/11 ?
  • Mikado ... Franklin 2012/09/13 14:13:26
    Mikado Hikyuu
    The video was not available to the whole world 6 months ago - maybe a better question is why was the video MADE available in these foreign countries to coincide with the anniversary? Why has the video maker gone into hiding? Why were the people who were involved in making this video speaking out on the news saying that they were mislead in what the movie was about and there was no anti-Islamic ranting in the movie when they made it?

    And here is another real question.. this man who made this movie in California is already claiming his first amendment right to free speech as all the excuse he needed to launch this attack through the internet world wide against Islam - but this movie is DIRECTLY responsible for the events that have taken place and the death of 4 American people - so how is USA to hold this man accountable for his incredibly insensitive actions with his religious hate film?
  • Jackie ... Mikado ... 2012/09/13 14:14:38 (edited)
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    So our government officials are liars - they see a coordinated attack triggered by the video discussing the drone death of one of their leaders and the standard 'death to America' - then the attacks follow in under 10 hours. The knowledge that our Ambassador was in that city and without any security - yea your right it is a TV group, they just made it all up.

    Just wish some would try to use their brains instead of babbling about FOX
  • Mikado ... Jackie ... 2012/09/13 14:19:58
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +1
    absolutely nothing you wrote actually connects in any way to 9/11 now does it?
    No it does not.

    You leapt before you looked just as Faux news did, and i think President Obama's comment about Mitt Romney said it best.. you fired before you aimed.
  • Jackie ... Mikado ... 2012/09/13 15:13:29
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Send your absurd comments to the WH and department of Defense - they will no doubt be astounded by your brilliance and learn from it - How can they not be as well advised as you.
  • Mikado ... Jackie ... 2012/09/14 03:47:46
    Mikado Hikyuu
    It only takes a matter of waiting for the facts to become clear, instead of the paranoid assumptions that others like Mr. Romney and Faux news chose instead, to be in the same frame of mind i am in.

    Just because some one screams 'death to America' that does NOT automatically equal Al'Queda.. a LOT of people in other countries do not like America for their program of invasion for the sake of safety, especially when all they are really trying to protect is the flow of oil.

    Libya is an ALLY, not an enemy of the USA - or did you not know this?
  • Jackie ... Mikado ... 2012/09/14 04:00:28
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Sweetie, no one is this dense on purpose - either you are are you do not keep up with the news. I prefer to think you do not keep up with the news.

    "Senior Libyan security official says attack on US Consulate in Benghazi that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and 3 other Americans was a precisely timed raid by militants who used civilian protests as cover."
  • Mikado ... Jackie ... 2012/09/14 04:02:21
    Mikado Hikyuu
    i rather wait until i know the facts before i blindly scream of conspiracy.
    i rather wait until i fully understand what is happening before i blindly attack allies.
    i am not a war monger, and not a paranoid conspiracy idiot.
    i am not quick to anger, i am quick to ask questions and seek wisdom
    i am not easily mislead by mindless racial/ethnic hatred like so many Americans seem to be.
    i am more interested in finding the truth than in joining the popular ship of fools.

    And i am so very thankful that i grew up in Sapporo were i was not brainwashed to mindlessly hate and fear the government or hate and fear foreigners.

    There is no question that i have a very different perspective than some of the people posting on this thread.

    And honestly i am so very thankful that i do.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/13 14:46:06
    vinny
    +2
    Why is it faux news? Fox just reported that US intelligence is investigating the possibility. Isn't that news? And there is a bit of evidence you may have missed. There were no attacks on 9/10. Two attacks on 9/11. No attacks on 9/12. Could be a coincidence but considering past events it is a possibility.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/14 03:52:19
    Mikado Hikyuu
    Faux news is not even allowed to broadcast in parts of the world because their 'news' is often politically skewed. That should tell you some thing about Faux news.

    ANd if we are going to consider possibilities, then why is it so hard for some people to realize that you were told the truth? That movie was disgusting and inciteful, and intentional attack against Islam, how should you expect the reaction to be? Why are so many of you so quick to assume it is related to some past event when there is a present event unfolding right in front of your jaded eyes?
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/14 15:59:25
    vinny
    Censorship is not necessarily an indication that something is 'faux'. Oppressive regimes often censor material contrary to their cause, true or untrue.

    I do not doubt that the reason may be exactly what they say. It is a possibility too. But that is not a response to my criticism of your characterization of fox as faux just because they reported the news that US inteligence is looking into the possibility that there may have been plans for 9/11.

    "How should I expect the reaction to be?" Let me ask you, how should you expect it to be? Murder? Rape? Burning? Hate? Tell me how would you react?

    My eyes are hardly jaded, your own statements tell me and the rest of the readers alot about you.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/14 16:28:14
    Mikado Hikyuu
    i sincerely hope that mai words do inform others about me. i have been more than courteous with several trolls, much more respect than any of them have shown to me. i grew up to respect elders, but the elders i knew ACTED as honorable and respectable elders.. they did not troll and write like playground bullies.

    i have been following the news this morning. and the latest reports now say that there was a SEPARATE attack, NOT part of the protest but hoping to use the protest to hide behind, that killed the 4 people in Libya, and The Libyans have already began searching for those suspected militants. There have also been arrests already of people that WERE involved in the protest but NOT part of the separate group.

    So now that more facts are being discovered, it would seem i was absolutely correct. The protests were exactly what they claimed to be, outrage at the movie, UNRELATED to 9/11.

    And the Attack that killed the Ambassador and his security team were unrelated to the protestors.

    To answer your question, i am not a religious zealot, so how i react when people create hate media that is anti-Christianity, or screams anti-God rhetoric.. i do not feel in any way threatened by it. It is not a problem for me as an actual Christian to know that some people hate me for being Chris...





    i sincerely hope that mai words do inform others about me. i have been more than courteous with several trolls, much more respect than any of them have shown to me. i grew up to respect elders, but the elders i knew ACTED as honorable and respectable elders.. they did not troll and write like playground bullies.

    i have been following the news this morning. and the latest reports now say that there was a SEPARATE attack, NOT part of the protest but hoping to use the protest to hide behind, that killed the 4 people in Libya, and The Libyans have already began searching for those suspected militants. There have also been arrests already of people that WERE involved in the protest but NOT part of the separate group.

    So now that more facts are being discovered, it would seem i was absolutely correct. The protests were exactly what they claimed to be, outrage at the movie, UNRELATED to 9/11.

    And the Attack that killed the Ambassador and his security team were unrelated to the protestors.

    To answer your question, i am not a religious zealot, so how i react when people create hate media that is anti-Christianity, or screams anti-God rhetoric.. i do not feel in any way threatened by it. It is not a problem for me as an actual Christian to know that some people hate me for being Christian, and scream hate toward God.. God as i understand God is big enough and mature enough to simply ignore such acts. i have a simple wisdom that God is love and wisdom and no amount of people screaming, or making movies, is going to have any effect on me.

    But the protestors are religious zealots. Their concept of God is of a vindictive God of War, Jihad.. a holy calling to destroy any one who would defame, who would insult, who would deny, their God.

    And the film maker knew that. And every one who has ever studied Islamic extremists also knew that - jihadists are literally insane in their love of God as they believe God to be, and they seek ANY opportunity to show their devotion to their God by attacking any one who insults them.

    The movie was created to incite anger in Muslim jihadists by directly insulting their God - i ask again what did people really expect would happen?
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  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/15 02:18:04
    vinny
    Well, you may be right but I'm not yet convinced. As the day has progressed and there are more outbreaks the idea that it was planned is looking better but that's the thing, we really don't know yet. I have no special interest in either theory. You still have not answered my first question, why is it faux news that the government is looking into the possibility that it was planned for the 9/11 date. Still seems newsworthy to me.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/15 13:38:19
    Mikado Hikyuu
    There was no connection made with the attack at all except that it happened a day apart from 9/11. What has come out now is that they took advantage of the movie protest.

    Faux news has a history already of offering opinions as news, and making up whole news hours out of what is later found to be only some comment made by some one.

    So is that really newsworthy? Many many people would think so i guess because their show IS popular in USA and i do not deny that to them at all.

    But when the truth comes out as it has so far.. how much actual news did Faux tell?

    i get news from Reuters through twitter, from BBC, CNN and NBC. and if there is one odd show that is reporting some thing different.. it always seems to be Faux.

    That is why i have learned not to take them seriously as a news program.

    i hope that answers your question.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/17 16:19:11
    vinny
    Did CNN show the interviews of the actors in the movie or is actual first hand information faux too?

    Sorry, it doesn't answer my question. The fact remains that government intelligence is looking into the possibility of it being planned. They have not decided one way or the other but there is evidence both ways. Should these facts be reported?

    I admit I don't know for sure one way or the other. It's immossible without all details. Why are liberals so worried that it may have been planned? Because it reflects on the current administrations foreign policy. To tell you the truth, either way this issue goes, it will not change my opinion of it.

    Any way, lets wait a while and see what develops before we leap to a conclusion. More info is coming out every day.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/17 16:25:27 (edited)
    Mikado Hikyuu
    HLN and its parent company CNN have both already shown the actors who have said that they were mislead about the movie, that they had answered a Craig's List ad for making an adventure film and that in the making of the movie there was no mention of Mohammad. One actor also said that she and some others were called later to record their voice saying several words and that Mohammad was one of those words.

    Avoiding leaping to the wrong conclusion is the advice i have been giving while others were screaming that it was a 9/11 plot.

    If you want more reason for why i do not trust Faux news, you can research into why Fox news has been banned from Canada because of Canadian laws against lying in broadcasting.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/17 17:20:13
    vinny
    That's interesting. I didn't know it was banned there. I couldn't find any specific reasons though, just alot of claims of lieing by taking quotes out of context. Do you really think the other channels are above this? Really? Probably banned in China and Cuba too. The left is always afraid of competing ideas. Thank God we have the freedom of the press in this country.

    Personnaly I don't base my desicions soley on what I hear on TV, one way or the other. The actual platforms of the parties have to be weighed along with what comes across the airwaves.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/17 19:22:53 (edited)
    Mikado Hikyuu
    I know there are fact checkers who follow all of the major news sources closely, just waiting to point out when a mistake or lie is made. But Fox news has really distinguished itself as being consistently inconsistent, not checking its own facts before it presents them, sufficient that Fox should be banned from broadcasting in Canada simply because it is so bad at reporting truth. So i do not consider Fox to be a reliable source for news.

    i am very happy to have several sources to collect news from, to cross reference for facts.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/17 22:59:40 (edited)
    vinny
    You are right to cross ref, always a good idea. I've been watching Fox for a while and have noticed some mistakes but no more than anywhere else. They do correct mistakes when they have to, even when the correct info does not help the conservative viewpoint.

    By the way, did the real news report on the president of Lybia saying that he believes it was a planned terrorist attack? Here it is on left wing news: http://www.npr.org/2012/09/16...
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/18 00:56:32 (edited)
    Mikado Hikyuu
    Yes that already came out. If you look up on this page to what i commented to you 3 days ago when i wrote:

    -----------------------------...
    'i have been following the news this morning. and the latest reports now say that there was a SEPARATE attack, NOT part of the protest but hoping to use the protest to hide behind, that killed the 4 people in Libya, and The Libyans have already began searching for those suspected militants. There have also been arrests already of people that WERE involved in the protest but NOT part of the separate group.

    So now that more facts are being discovered, it would seem i was absolutely correct. The protests were exactly what they claimed to be, outrage at the movie, UNRELATED to 9/11.'
    -----------------------------...

    The attackers that killed the ambassador used the movie protest to hide behind.

    one thing that the NPR link claims that was not given 3 days ago was the claim that:

    "foreigners infiltrated Libya over the past few months, planned the attack and used Libyans to carry it out."

    So that information is new.

    News programs really should not be specifically supporting either a liberal or conservative view. They should be reporting the news as it happens and politics should not dictate what they choose to say or not say.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/27 02:11:05
    vinny
    Well, now that the White House has determined that it was a planned attack I guess the faux news wasn't Fox but the other networks, vene the White House was incorrect. Maybe Canada should ban news from the White House too.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/27 12:52:42
    Mikado Hikyuu
    Your memory seems to be very short.

    Peep back up on this same page to where i wrote:

    "The protests were exactly what they claimed to be, outrage at the movie, UNRELATED to 9/11.

    And the Attack that killed the Ambassador and his security team were unrelated to the protestors."

    So the movie protest is NOT related to 9/11, and the attack that killed the ambassador and his team was coordinated with the protest, not 9/11.

    The movie protest was the distraction that the killers used.

    i know that some people are going to assume that every terrorist act is connected to 9/11 - just as in history for a time every one in USA thought that any act by Nihon was related to the Pearl Harbor attack, or in response to the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings.

    For a time in US history, it was thought that most of 'Hollywood' was actually controlled by Communists(!) and there was a whole government committee created just to spy on movie stars looking for 'unAmerican acts'.

    The paranoia of Americans is incredible.

    In another thread at this time there are people still screaming that doomsday is coming on 21 December.. based on a sad misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar that the Mayans them selves say is insane.

    The killers coordinated with the move protest.

    And sticking a 9/11 scare sticker on the story, hoping to get more controversy and more viewers is a perfect example of alarmist false news.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/09/28 00:14:52
    vinny
    Leon Pannetta today admitted they knew it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours. The White house tried to cover up this fact by inventing the movie story. You had better start watching fox, the other guys just aren't reporting it yet.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/09/28 05:59:37
    Mikado Hikyuu
    When did Leon Panetta claim that the White House invented the movie story? i watched the report on CNN and you can also read it online here:

    http://www.edition.cnn.com/20...

    There is a timeline of what was learned and when it was learned and announced - but no mention of an invented story as you claim from Leon Panetta.

    That claim comes from Senator McCain (who has absolutely no access to any military intelligence):

    "They were either incredibly naïve or willfully deceiving the American people. I don't know which," Republican Sen. John McCain told CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" on Thursday.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/10/01 13:56:31
    vinny
    You're putting words in my mouth. I did not say Pannetta called anything an invented story. He said they knew it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours. Since I last wrote we now know that there were other terrorist actions in days leading up to 9/11/2012 and that the white house was warned there would be problems. What was done about it? Nothing.

    Both Egyptian and Lybian officials have made statements that the movie had little or nothing to do with the attack.

    I am not drawing any conclusion yet because I don't think we know enough yet. But one thing is sure; the white house was very anxious to put forward the claim it was all about the movie and has even now avoided the word 'terrorism'.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/10/01 20:51:20
    Mikado Hikyuu
    For what feels like the 3rd or 4th time now.. the protest was about the movie, the attack and assassination of the 4 men was conducted by a SEPARATE terrorist group, who USED the protest as a convenient distraction.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/10/19 02:44:48
    vinny
    What protest? The prez today has aknowledged there was no protest. Do you realize they are lieing yet?
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/10/19 06:30:13
    Mikado Hikyuu
    i realize that some things can never be proven to people who assume their answers with no evidence and then try to change the evidence to suit their conclusion.
  • myfoxmy... Mikado ... 2012/09/13 15:40:08
    myfoxmystere
    Mikado-san, stepping on BANANA PEELS will make you fall, possibly hit your head and a poster child of left wing liberals. Listening to liberal hacks like the Obama toy who gets a thrill up his leg and taking him serriously will damage the brain.
  • Mikado ... myfoxmy... 2012/09/14 03:54:26
    Mikado Hikyuu
    All that you have posted is your already obvious mistrust and hatred toward president Obama. If you had any thing regarding this thread to actually comment about, with ANY amount of logic to it at all, then i imagine you would be writing about that instead of just using this thread as one more excuse to proclaim your loud hate and ignorance.

    You are completely off topic and wasting every one's time.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/10/19 16:42:48
    vinny
    The question was whether the attack was planned or not. We now know it was and that is all any of my comments said, that it might be a planned attack rather than a demonstration gone bad. We now know it was planned and there was no demonstration.

    Your comment that FOX is faux news doesn't exactly speak to the question. Was it out of hate for news that interfers with your hope in Obama? You should realize by now that FOX's handling of the event in the early days was correct and that by their good investigation we now know that the white house is covering up their faux policy.

    I don't hate Obama but I do hate communism/socialism, it is contrary to my Christian faith.

    I wish Obama was a good pres, I have staed more than once that Black America deserves a good Black president but this one is not one to be proud of whether you are a black, white or any other kind of American.
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/10/19 20:36:36
    Mikado Hikyuu
    Wrong. The question is: US Investigates if Benghazi Attack Was 'Coordinated' With 9/11: Was It?

    There were two separate events, the attack that killed 4 people, AND the riot that you claimed never happened, never happened in Libya, never happened in Egypt, never happened in 10+ countries as we watched around the world.

    Some grand conspiracy you have there to claim that there was no rioting.

    The Benghazi attack was coordinated to coincide with that riot, as a cover.
    The riot and the attack are NOT related, the attack itself was planned for 9/11 and used the rioting as cover.

    How hard is that to understand?

    And regarding socialism, you need to learn the definition, as it is actually very TRUE to Christianity, according to Christ in the Bible. Capitalism is contrary to Christianity - and any one with a King James Bible can learn that quickly for them selves.

    Look at what God said:

    Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    Ezekiel 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

    A rich city that had more than enough to share but instead neglected the poor and ne...







    Wrong. The question is: US Investigates if Benghazi Attack Was 'Coordinated' With 9/11: Was It?

    There were two separate events, the attack that killed 4 people, AND the riot that you claimed never happened, never happened in Libya, never happened in Egypt, never happened in 10+ countries as we watched around the world.

    Some grand conspiracy you have there to claim that there was no rioting.

    The Benghazi attack was coordinated to coincide with that riot, as a cover.
    The riot and the attack are NOT related, the attack itself was planned for 9/11 and used the rioting as cover.

    How hard is that to understand?

    And regarding socialism, you need to learn the definition, as it is actually very TRUE to Christianity, according to Christ in the Bible. Capitalism is contrary to Christianity - and any one with a King James Bible can learn that quickly for them selves.

    Look at what God said:

    Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    Ezekiel 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

    A rich city that had more than enough to share but instead neglected the poor and needy - that is a perfect example of capitalism.

    And the opposite, if the city had made programs to CARE for the poor and needy?
    That would be a perfect example of socialism.


    Scary what you can learn if you actually READ the Bible.

    i learned not to trust Fox news since 2007, Fox has yet to impress me as being either fair or balanced, but i will give credit where it is due - they were the first network to assume cover up.
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  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/10/23 00:54:39
    vinny
    Socialism is not about caring for the poor. Socialism is about personal ownership. Under capitalism individuals own their own property. Under socialism the government does. Capitalism does not neglect the poor, people do. Many people who are capitalists, like me, care very much for the poor but have a different opinion of how to make things better for them. First they give of their own money. Socialists demand that others give their money. Big differance.

    Supporting the poor is a moral issue, not a legal one. As a moral issue it has to be dealt with as a personal choice. Christians give to the poor because they recognize they are God's children and therefore our brothers and sisters. Giving is a proper moral action. When a socialist takes your money and gives it to someone else it says nothing about their generousity. You may be a greedy sob, and after the socialist takes your money, you are still a greedy sob. If I give my money I am generous. If I take someone elses money and give it as if it were mine I am a theif and and a con man.

    Socialism is based on the theories of Karl Marx, an atheist. Nations that have most embraced these theories have outlawed all religions or severly limit them. Marx envisioned a society that was based on justice rather than charity (love), read his...



    Socialism is not about caring for the poor. Socialism is about personal ownership. Under capitalism individuals own their own property. Under socialism the government does. Capitalism does not neglect the poor, people do. Many people who are capitalists, like me, care very much for the poor but have a different opinion of how to make things better for them. First they give of their own money. Socialists demand that others give their money. Big differance.

    Supporting the poor is a moral issue, not a legal one. As a moral issue it has to be dealt with as a personal choice. Christians give to the poor because they recognize they are God's children and therefore our brothers and sisters. Giving is a proper moral action. When a socialist takes your money and gives it to someone else it says nothing about their generousity. You may be a greedy sob, and after the socialist takes your money, you are still a greedy sob. If I give my money I am generous. If I take someone elses money and give it as if it were mine I am a theif and and a con man.

    Socialism is based on the theories of Karl Marx, an atheist. Nations that have most embraced these theories have outlawed all religions or severly limit them. Marx envisioned a society that was based on justice rather than charity (love), read his writings. Jesus teaches about His kingdom which is based on love. Marx will give you a society where the government will give you justice. Jesus tells us that we could not stand up to justice but offers mercy.

    Look carefully at every instance where socialism has been. USSR, Cuba, China, and yes Hitlers government too was a form of socialism. What do you find? Good, atheist commies don't agree that we are created in God's image so humans are quite expendable. They killed hundreds millions in the last century. Do you find a good situation for the poor? Tens of millions starved to death in USSR and China and recently in North Korea. Only under capitalism as we have in USA have so many lived so well. It has never happened anywhere else at any time or in any place and the system was born out of a committed group of Christians who founded our nation.

    Mikado, I was a liberal as you in my younger days. Democrat, Mother Jones reader and all that. I thank God for His grace of an open mind which eventually led me to see things as they really are. I know America has problems and we've don some bad things but we've done alot of good things too. Anyway, God bless you and lets hope America does the right thing in the coming election.
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  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/10/24 03:57:04
    Mikado Hikyuu
    You have an incredibly biased and misinformed opinion of Socialism, but beside this you missed the point of the Bible reference entirely.

    Sodom is the perfect example of a capitalist system. The rich retain the wealth, there are no programs or support for the poor, the city legalizes every form of corruption and greed in the name of money, including slavery and prostitution. its leaders and its daughters live in idleness while the poor are left to suffer and struggle.

    it seems very clear from your writing that you need to learn much more about socialism before you can continue to lecture me about it.
  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/10/25 12:58:04
    vinny
    Have you read marx? Communist manifesto? Have you spoken to anyone who has actually lived in a socialist country? I have.

    Don't believe me, here is a primer for you:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Why do think capitolist would want anyone to suffer and struggle? I'm a capitolist and I pay my employees quite well. The last thing I want is for them to suffer and struggle. The happier they are working for me the more productive they are and the longer they will stay with me. Even in this pathetic job market employers do all they can to retain employees. You seem to have a warped idea of what capitolism is. It is based on private ownership. Read here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  • Mikado ... vinny 2012/10/26 07:01:39 (edited)
    Mikado Hikyuu
    Before you make your self look more uninformed, i was born and grew up until the age of 15 in Sapporo. We had so many programs that were absolutely socialist, including medical service, education, housing - we also had what you would call gun control. Nihon is not a socialist country, but we understand that certain aspects of socialism benefit every one and so those plans are embraced instead of rejected based on an uninformed cultural bias against socialism based on war propaganda you were brainwashed with.

    Americans fear the word 'communism' fear the word 'socialism' without even understanding what they are. You quickly pointed out that Karl Marx was atheist, trying to connect socialism with atheism, proving the point completely. You have more fear than wisdom.

    And in all of those aspects, Nihon is incredibly advanced over USA, the richest nation of poverty in the world.

    It is spelled Capitalist, not capitolist.. and ask any one who works for a major corporation like Wal-Mart if their company cares if they suffer. The holiday season is close in USA, and companies are cutting employee hours, and ending jobs for part-time, just so the managers can ensure their bonuses before they must hire part-time help for Thanksgiving - Christmas - New years.. before they fire the part-...







    Before you make your self look more uninformed, i was born and grew up until the age of 15 in Sapporo. We had so many programs that were absolutely socialist, including medical service, education, housing - we also had what you would call gun control. Nihon is not a socialist country, but we understand that certain aspects of socialism benefit every one and so those plans are embraced instead of rejected based on an uninformed cultural bias against socialism based on war propaganda you were brainwashed with.

    Americans fear the word 'communism' fear the word 'socialism' without even understanding what they are. You quickly pointed out that Karl Marx was atheist, trying to connect socialism with atheism, proving the point completely. You have more fear than wisdom.

    And in all of those aspects, Nihon is incredibly advanced over USA, the richest nation of poverty in the world.

    It is spelled Capitalist, not capitolist.. and ask any one who works for a major corporation like Wal-Mart if their company cares if they suffer. The holiday season is close in USA, and companies are cutting employee hours, and ending jobs for part-time, just so the managers can ensure their bonuses before they must hire part-time help for Thanksgiving - Christmas - New years.. before they fire the part-time help and leave their stores understaffed again.

    In the news there is the matter of CenturyLink.. they barely held off a general strike that would cover 12 states. workers are facing cuts in their hours and jobs as CenturyLink is hoping to outsource even more jobs overseas.

    It is really simple. If the job is sent overseas, then that is one less job that an American can work at. The more jobs go overseas, the fewer jobs Americans have.

    No work, means no working class. the middle class shrinks.. and more people who HAD work go on food stamps.

    I understand Capitalism, i am also aware of what is actually happening here in USA, i have lived here since 2007.
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  • vinny Mikado ... 2012/10/27 15:38:27
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    How did Japan's economy get to where it is? Did they have to stoop so low as to actually have to produce products at a profit? Why did't they just take from the rich and give to the poor? And what kind of a country was it they gave them a leg up when they were down? Were they evil capitalists or were they socialists? Maybe Japan would have been better off as socialists, they could be enjoying the good life the the CHinese are.

    Be realistic, your life there is nothing like what goes on in socialist countries. Talk to some Russian, Cuban, Polish or Czech Republic immigrants. I've had friends and business associates from all those places. They love America and they all prefer the capitalist system.

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