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U.S. Intelligence Tests Crowdsourcing Against its Experts: Who's Better at Predicting Terrorist Attacks?

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LATIMES.COM reports:
Might the 'wisdom of crowds' be better at predicting wars and terrorism than the U.S. government's top intelligence experts? The idea is being put to the test.
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  • Heisenberg 2012/08/22 19:02:56
    Intelligence Experts
    Heisenberg
    +11
    I say leave intelligence gathering to the experts.

    Let the politicians show up later for a fake photo op.

    intelligence asset kill bin laden

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  • Ben 2012/08/31 13:28:28
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Ben
    It goes against everything you'd think is common sense. Surely a group of experts would know better than a large group of non-experts. But crowdsourcing has been shown to be pretty effective in areas from Science to the stockmarket, so a victory for it here would not surprise me.
  • Zach055 2012/08/25 06:25:18
    Intelligence Experts
    Zach055
    Its too hard to tell between wisdom of crowds and mass histeria.
  • Mikado Hikyuu 2012/08/24 20:42:10
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +1
    so called Intelligence experts are people who do a lot of math. They are told to look at history for trends. observing how often certain events took place each year and also what other events were happening at the same time. Was it hot or a cool day? Was it during a time of economic growth when the country was doing well or was it during a 'downturn'? Were we in war or between battles? They collect all sort of seemingly unrelated data and plug it into equations that they feel will predict with an uncertain degree of accuracy about possible future events.

    The amazing thing is that governments pay people to do this.

    Basically the same equations are used to predict fashion trends. Stripes coming back in this year? Terrorists in stripes? Ask the experts!

    The only thing intelligence experts have over the intuition of the everyman in the crowd is dedicated intelligence gathering operatives who actually infiltrate and closely observe the activities of terrorists(or at least suspected terrorists) and they can add that date into their equations.

    Those are the time when they change the terror threat color scheme.
    It is a science of guessing the future based on observed patterns of the past.
    It does work.. to a point. But it is far from an exact science.
  • MOMMA THOMAS 2012/08/24 19:56:11
    Intelligence Experts
    MOMMA THOMAS
    ALL OF THE ABOVE, AND THEN SOME..
  • ticker 2012/08/24 14:58:35
  • Guido 2012/08/24 10:26:01
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Guido
    Franklin Pierce
  • rootbeer29 2012/08/24 08:47:47
    Wisdom of Crowds
    rootbeer29
    Why does this remind me of remote viewing or the egg project.
  • kobidobidog 2012/08/24 04:06:04 (edited)
    Wisdom of Crowds
    kobidobidog
    How come people do not see that a militarily army is terroristic?
  • Swampdog 2012/08/23 23:10:28
    Intelligence Experts
    Swampdog
    +1
    Get the experts to ask the terrorists.
  • Diddley Squat 2012/08/23 20:41:49
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Diddley Squat
    Bad or "cooked" intelligence assessments got us into a war in Iraq. And now that I think about it, Vietnam, too.
  • holly go lightly 2012/08/23 19:33:37
    Wisdom of Crowds
    holly go lightly
    +1
    really , only the terrorist knows.
  • TimothyBrianFoley 2012/08/23 19:10:02
    Intelligence Experts
    TimothyBrianFoley
    +1
    another way to protect lives
  • Stephen 2012/08/23 19:04:39
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Stephen
    +1
    the terrorist
  • Kat 2012/08/23 17:01:21
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Kat
    Experts are fouled by political leanings.
  • firelooker 2012/08/23 16:56:31
    Wisdom of Crowds
    firelooker
    +2
    Intelligence"experts" aren't any better than the average joe at predicting terrorist attacks if they were 9/11 wouldn't have happened.
  • Panthiana 2012/08/23 16:50:37
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Panthiana
    +2
    Who defines a terrorist/terrorism. A person who blows himself up? Someone who leaks top secret documents to reveal a corrupt government? Capitalists or Communists?
  • john doe 2012/08/23 16:08:03
    Wisdom of Crowds
    john doe
    +2
    The U.S. Government creates terrorists, they want them to blow us up so they can strip us of more rights and make billions off of wars. People can regulate everything better.
  • Prepper Politics 2012/08/23 16:04:44
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Prepper Politics
    +2
    Based on my experience in the field, locals do the best at finding the SOBs. Intel just uses the info from the locals in many cases anyway.
  • OhSoNiceMe 2012/08/23 15:43:25
    Intelligence Experts
    OhSoNiceMe
    +1
    they stopped the Christmas time bombing
  • FatherL... OhSoNiceMe 2012/08/23 16:20:07
    FatherLiberty
    +1
    No they didnt. They created it. If you pay attention, you'd know that entire situation was set up by the intelligence community. It was admitted in House Intelligence Hearings by the Undersecretary of National Security that the bomber was put on the plane by intelligence agents. Several witnesses on the aircraft claimed seeing a man escort the suspected bomber past airport security and onboard the airplane. It was all part of getting the body scanners in the airports, which was created by a company that the head of the TSA was a major investor in.


  • Tannenberg1993 2012/08/23 15:21:58
    Intelligence Experts
    Tannenberg1993
    +1
    I think it would be easier if intelligence gathered for national security stopped leaking out to the crowds... we have a right to know some things, but other matters must remain confidential for everyone's safety and the sake of our survival in modern war.
  • Watermusicranger 2012/08/23 15:16:10
    Intelligence Experts
    Watermusicranger
    +1
    This is a stupid question..... Intelligence Experts are still the best at what they do. Period
  • Barbi Rose 2012/08/23 14:29:58
    Intelligence Experts
    Barbi Rose
    +1
    Seems to be working pretty good I'd rather experts get it then oh the guy next to me kind of well suspects something then BOOM!
  • Broddy 2012/08/23 14:19:17
    Intelligence Experts
    Broddy
    +1
    Wisdom of Crowds sounds a lot like a Lynch mob too me.
  • auron 2012/08/23 13:50:10
    Intelligence Experts
    auron
    +1
    They are also the best at creating terroists.
  • Juan O'Mara 2012/08/23 13:10:19
    Intelligence Experts
    Juan O'Mara
    neither

    no further comments follow
  • Lynn DC 2012/08/23 12:57:35
    Intelligence Experts
    Lynn DC
    +2
    Crowds that think in unison scare me! I am borg... give me orange kool-aid........
  • Broddy Lynn DC 2012/08/23 14:16:06
    Broddy
    +1
    Hey no reason to bring the Obama voters into this lol
  • john doe Lynn DC 2012/08/23 16:11:18
    john doe
    Better we leave all the thinking to one person, like Obama.
  • Ken 2012/08/23 12:52:26
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Ken
    +2
    Isn't it obvious? We had the Soviet Union run by technocrats and it failed in less than 100 years....We had Europe run by nobility....it lasted a bit longer but still nothing has worked better than free people freely choosing their leaders.

    Apparently the folks in the intelligence community are finally realizing what has been sitting front of their noses for 200 plus years.
  • mrdog 2012/08/23 12:15:52
    Intelligence Experts
    mrdog
    Lead by Bugs Bunny....bark
  • Scandalf 2012/08/23 12:05:31
    Intelligence Experts
    Scandalf
    +1
    Without any doubt!
  • savagesarge 2012/08/23 07:48:41
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/08/23 07:40:14
    Wisdom of Crowds
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +2
    We are beyond the old stuff. Now we have Intelligence Experts spying on the Military and everybody in the Military. Every phone call, email, smoke signal is monitored by an outside (in this case inside) agency. The NSA. The 0's private spook network. This administration is obsessed with False Flag leaks and has turned it's attention to the Military.

    What a tangled web.

    http://prasutagus.wordpress.c...
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/...
    http://waronyou.com/forums/in...
    http://www.aclu.org/maps/spyi...
    http://intelnews.org/2010/12/...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
  • Lynn DC Pedro D... 2012/08/23 12:59:33
    Lynn DC
    +1
    You left out Code pink and MoveOn.org.
  • Broddy Lynn DC 2012/08/23 14:17:46
    Broddy
    +1
    Those groups are wonderful at locating terrorist just find anyone they call friends and most likely they are Terrorist.
  • Pedro D... Lynn DC 2012/08/23 16:00:07
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    Code Pink sounds dangerous.
  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/08/23 06:52:03
    Intelligence Experts
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    +1
    The best predictor of "terrorism" is to watch the "State Department" very closely, and see who all they support and get on board aircraft.
  • You Know IT 2012/08/23 04:23:58 (edited)
    Wisdom of Crowds
    You Know IT
    Intel experts my opinion should involve gathering info from crowds into their sourcing, Crowds may not be experts, but locals would be more keen on knowing what places would be attacked, problem being you have conflicting sources sometimes.
  • ★Calliope★ 2012/08/23 04:00:02
    Intelligence Experts
    ★Calliope★
    +5
    The other seems to smack of 'chicken or egg'.

    Crowds have a mind and they can be ugly. A self-fulfilling prophesy.

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