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US Death Toll in Iraq War Hits 4,000! How optimistic are you that the U.S. will succeed with its mission in Iraq?

Pamela *Raccoon* March 24, 2008 16:41:47

A roadside bomb killed four U.S. soldiers in Baghdad on Sunday, the military said, pushing the overall American death toll in the five-year war to at least 4,000.


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  • Flash G... Duck March 26, 2008 15:29:32
    Flash Gordon
    Maybe so, but at 9.5B $ every 30 days, and the way thing are now, you add it up.
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    Judi March 25, 2008 03:40:07
    Judi

    NOT AT ALL

    I see no way a time will come when U.S. military and civilians will be able to walk down or drive down any street without guards or armor. Without that happening there is no win by us. There is no win for the Iraqis until the same things can be said along with the ability of all the Iraqis who have left the country being able to return to Iraq and live regular lifes.
  • David Judi March 25, 2008 21:58:28
    David
    Thgis can happen when the Iraqi government gets some balls and takes the position of leadership in that nation..untill then..it will remain unstable. And if we suddely pull out..WW3 starts.
  • Judi David March 25, 2008 22:03:51
    Judi
    Does not sound good does it. According to some reports we are training the various militias in Iraq and with the other countries in the area supporting various factions in Iraq it is hard to believe we haven't gotten into a situation where it is impossible for a big area wide conflict to come about no matter how or when the USA leaves--unless other countries move in and take over the spot we leave. And, that is not going to happen. So, the question is will we go broke first or leave and start an area wide war first that will bring us into harm's way? A no-win situation anyway I look at it.
  • Duck Judi March 25, 2008 22:01:57
    Duck
    1947 in Germany and Japan,...you could have said the same thing.
  • Judi Duck March 25, 2008 22:09:03
    Judi
    Germany and Japan: We, along with our allies did win that war. Then we went in and rebuilt those countries who are now allies. The end result was a win for the world.
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    Dillon March 25, 2008 01:39:44
    Dillon

    NOT AT ALL

    I would really like to see us succeed with our mission in Iraq, but that mission seems to change daily and I don't think anyone knows how to complete the mission successfully and bring our troups home. I am very proud and gratefull for what our troups have done and are still doing and my prayers and thanks go out to them and their families.
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    Duck Dillon March 25, 2008 22:03:07
    Duck
    How is the mission "changing daily"? This was going to be a long and difficult war going in, and we have kept the war contained... they have not attacked US soil since 9-11 have they?
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    Ihr Has... Duck March 26, 2008 02:59:47
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    "they have not attacked US soil since 9-11 have they?"

    George Bush said that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11, Iraq has not "attacked us" on our soil... EVER!!!!
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    ♥~Rainb... Ihr Has... March 26, 2008 07:03:04
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    it was not Iraq......it was supposed Afi's...
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    ♥~Rainb... ♥~Rainb... March 26, 2008 07:04:03
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    sorry Hase...i read that wrong...what else is new...didnt mean to repeat you...;o)
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    dazzy March 25, 2008 01:28:46
    dazzy

    SOMEWHAT

    i dont much know what to say as my husband is there on deployment. all i can really say is what were told.
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    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas March 25, 2008 00:58:57
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas

    SOMEWHAT

    We succeeded in Iraq, Saddam is out of power...

    The Claims of WMD's is false according to the CIA reports
    The Claims of ties to Al-Qaeda is false according to the Pentagon

    What is the mission now?

    We are not rebuilding Iraq's Refineries, which would help restore autonomy to the people of Iraq, we are not "doing" anything except occupying Iraq at this point.

    My thoughts go to more sinister aspects of the facts, and I will not bother posting them here, unless solicited...
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    Judi Ihr Has... March 25, 2008 03:42:15
    Judi
    I am soliciting! And what about the oil that was supposed to pay for the war as they said in the beginning? It seems we are just spending and spending.
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    Ihr Has... Judi March 25, 2008 04:56:38
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    In the Fall of 2000 Iraq dropped the Dollar as a reserve currency, and got UN approval to sell oil for Euros, we crippled the Iraqi's ability to pump and refine oil, and we are promising to not leave until they have a stable government. Ask yourself why would there need to be a final stage government before we leave, we left Pakistan before they returned to Democracy, we left Iraq the first time with the dictator still in power, what is different? We were threatening Iran ever since they decided to start talking about doing the same thing, why do you think Venezuela has been getting support from Russia at the same time?
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    Judi Ihr Has... March 25, 2008 05:02:24
    Judi
    Thanks for sharing. I totally agree. Lots of idiocy out there among those making decisions--we have been our own worst enemy. On this course we will defeat ourselves by going broke.
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    Ihr Has... Judi March 25, 2008 05:44:51
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    We have been our own worst enemy in that we have become complacent, but there are forces outside our control pulling at the strings, we need to seek the man behind the curtain, and destroy his grip over us...
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    ♥~Rainb... Ihr Has... March 26, 2008 06:55:22
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
  • Duck Ihr Has... March 25, 2008 22:05:27
    Duck
    We are reconstructing the infrastructure of Iraq, training and equipping their military and police forces, opening and rebuilding schools and universities, providing electricity and water to communities that in some cases have not had it for over 35 years, if ever. We are doing a lot, and the mission has always been to do that... to oust Saddam's regime, restore safety and security to the region, and we are doing that... is that easy, no. Are we done? Not yet. Have some faith in your soldiers, sailors and Marines.
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    Ihr Has... Duck March 26, 2008 03:18:00
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    We are not rebuilding the refineries...

    This has nothing to do with faith in the foot soldiers of the American Military, my faith in them is absolute, it is my faith in the leadership of this country, they refuse to listen to the people, and just so we are clear, the people are the employers of the government...

    Really go to the Iraq "green zone" and do what McCain is claiming, walk around without armed guards, that has been pointed out was a bold faced LIE by our soliders...

    The fact is that this nation needs the resources of the nation, and there is no reason that we should be rebuilding Iraq in the first place...
    The PENTAGON report could not link Saddam and Al-Qaeda
    So Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9-11
    The CIA report (Duelfer) claimed that the WMD's that hinged our involvement, the "smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud" was not only a false notion but based off of unproven intelligence...

    The thought that we should "save the world" from tyrants is not only comical in the fact of what our own government has done at home, but in the trend of the leaders we insert during regime changes...

    I think many people that support our involvement in Iraq need to take a look at the last 70 years of American Foreign Policy, and the words of the founders of the country to see the intent of the great minds that created this nation...
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    ♥~Rainb... Ihr Has... March 26, 2008 05:46:14
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    ill post it then.....i am in a shitty mood tonight..... lets see if anyone can figure this out...i highly doubt it...








    there is a part three...but i think they get the picture now...i hope....
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    Candy Girl ~ "We The People... March 24, 2008 23:39:10
    Candy Girl ~

    NOT AT ALL

    No, I don't see it happening....
    Bush proclaimed "Mission Accomplished in 2003, and yet we are still there....

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    ♥~Rainb... Candy G... March 26, 2008 06:51:37
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    mission accomplished by this image....
  • Candy G... ♥~Rainb... March 26, 2008 14:12:53
    Candy Girl ~
    Saddam was an evil tyrant, but killing him wasn't the reason given for going into Iraq.

    The fundamental reason for the invasion was that Iraq possessed and was actively developing WMD's and posed an imminent, urgent, and immediate threat to the United States, its people, allies, and interests. That rationale was widely criticized and, as everyone knows, no WMD's were ever found. There was no connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda or the attacks of September 11th.
  • laure Candy G... March 26, 2008 19:35:05
    laure
    I agree with you but your picture is too pretty:

    This shows a fascist.

    An aircraft carrier in the Pacific, about an hour from San Diego, California. You could row that far. A couple of jets on deck as props, lots of giddy sailors. Here comes an airplane! It lands in the accustomed manner. Out springs the Boy Prince, the Dauphin of D.C., the VIP of the GOP, George W. Bush in full military flight suit, with his ejector harness giving him the worst moose knuckle in presidential history. A bit of video for the election commercials just in case the Democrats don't all curl up and die on their own, what's the harm in that? I wish it was that simple. But what we really saw in that moment was a coup d'etat. The president isn't supposed to wear a uniform. He's a civilian. Rough Rider Teddy Roosevelt strapped on a pistol now and then and we've had generals who made president before. That Kennedy fellow was a war hero, too, and Bush Senior, the one who got elected, did his bit in the Pacific while Grampy Prescott was supporting the Nazis in Europe. But when they were president none of these men put on military uniforms. They understood that there are three sacred lines with regard to American democracy that can never be crossed: the line between privilege and power, the line betwe...

    I agree with you but your picture is too pretty:

    This shows a fascist.

    An aircraft carrier in the Pacific, about an hour from San Diego, California. You could row that far. A couple of jets on deck as props, lots of giddy sailors. Here comes an airplane! It lands in the accustomed manner. Out springs the Boy Prince, the Dauphin of D.C., the VIP of the GOP, George W. Bush in full military flight suit, with his ejector harness giving him the worst moose knuckle in presidential history. A bit of video for the election commercials just in case the Democrats don't all curl up and die on their own, what's the harm in that? I wish it was that simple. But what we really saw in that moment was a coup d'etat. The president isn't supposed to wear a uniform. He's a civilian. Rough Rider Teddy Roosevelt strapped on a pistol now and then and we've had generals who made president before. That Kennedy fellow was a war hero, too, and Bush Senior, the one who got elected, did his bit in the Pacific while Grampy Prescott was supporting the Nazis in Europe. But when they were president none of these men put on military uniforms. They understood that there are three sacred lines with regard to American democracy that can never be crossed: the line between privilege and power, the line between Church and State, and the line between civilian and military leadership. Cross any of them, and you're at fascism's doorstep. Cross two, you're on the threshold with your hand on the doorknob.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/t...
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  • laure laure March 26, 2008 19:39:51
    laure
    OOps something went wrong with the link. The quote is from Ben Tripp's article in Counterpunch entitled: The Other "F" Word".

    http://www.counterpunch.org/t...
  • Roberto... Candy G... March 28, 2008 20:24:47 (edited)
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama
    More main stream media propaganda! Bush gave the "Mission Accomplished" speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. The banner in your photo was reference to the fact that the mission of the USS Abraham Lincoln was accomplished, not that the the war mission was accomplished.

    Please read for yourself, don't use the MSM or socialist blog sites as your definitive source.
  • Candy G... Roberto... March 28, 2008 20:27:04
    Candy Girl ~
    I do read for myself. Actually, I watched him do his little monkey dance live on television. I don't know of any socialist blogs, and I get my news from a variety of sources.
  • babydoll06 March 24, 2008 22:35:04
    babydoll06

    NOT AT ALL

    THERE WILL STILL BE TERRORISTS THAT NEED TO BE PUT IN THEIR PLACE.
  • kk~ProObama/Biden~NoMcBush March 24, 2008 22:21:14
    kk~ProObama/Biden~NoMcBush

    SOMEWHAT

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  • ♥~Rainb... kk~ProO... March 26, 2008 06:53:09
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    the mission was complete when a dictator was taken out of power....what mission is it that you think needs accomplished now? just wondering..........
  • kk~ProO... ♥~Rainb... March 26, 2008 12:22:27
    kk~ProObama/Biden~NoMcBush
    moderated...
  • COLORADO*BABY March 24, 2008 22:06:36
    COLORADO*BABY

    VERY

    They will free them!!!!!
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    William COLORAD... March 25, 2008 15:11:32
    William
    They will free who? What the hell are you talking about??!!
  • ♥~Rainb... William March 26, 2008 06:50:04
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    dont be so surprised......sheeple repeat many things.....no mind no thoughts.......
  • IsraeliteRian84 March 24, 2008 21:14:39
    IsraeliteRian84

    NOT AT ALL

    Who-ever said I was "optimistic" in the first place, about this war in Iraq lol!
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    MadHatter March 24, 2008 19:55:50
    MadHatter

    NOT AT ALL

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    Gunny March 24, 2008 18:31:24
    Gunny

    NOT AT ALL

    I think that the number of deaths in Iraq is amazingly low. For instance in our own Civil War, many battles had 30 to 35,000 deaths in one da! What they don't tell you is that not all deaths in Iraq are caused by battle. Some are due to accidents. As far as succeeding in Iraq...this is not a typical war where you have two or more countries with standing armies fighting each other. There is no one commander who would accept an offer of peace.
    It really depends upon the Iraqi people to stand together as one and fight the terrorists. They would have to have their own armed forces and a clear cut governmnet that has the interest of the people at heart. I don't see that happening any time soon. The Iraqi people are still very much tribal-minded with each having their own clans with their own clan leaders. The conceptof a strong central government, in their mind, is what Sadam Hussein had. That was not a good experience for them and I believe they are not very keen at the idea of a strong central government. When they had the opportunity to vote, almost 80 percent of them showed up. The Iraqis have had time to form their government but there is just too much in -fighting. They can't seem to agree on anything. To top it all off, the Shite and Sunni leaders hate each other and want n...
    I think that the number of deaths in Iraq is amazingly low. For instance in our own Civil War, many battles had 30 to 35,000 deaths in one da! What they don't tell you is that not all deaths in Iraq are caused by battle. Some are due to accidents. As far as succeeding in Iraq...this is not a typical war where you have two or more countries with standing armies fighting each other. There is no one commander who would accept an offer of peace.
    It really depends upon the Iraqi people to stand together as one and fight the terrorists. They would have to have their own armed forces and a clear cut governmnet that has the interest of the people at heart. I don't see that happening any time soon. The Iraqi people are still very much tribal-minded with each having their own clans with their own clan leaders. The conceptof a strong central government, in their mind, is what Sadam Hussein had. That was not a good experience for them and I believe they are not very keen at the idea of a strong central government. When they had the opportunity to vote, almost 80 percent of them showed up. The Iraqis have had time to form their government but there is just too much in -fighting. They can't seem to agree on anything. To top it all off, the Shite and Sunni leaders hate each other and want nothing to do with a representative government because one group is larger than the other and the smaller group is doing what they can to undermine the American plan to democratize Iraq. I believe as soon as we leave their country, it will turn into chaos, the fundamentalists will take over and we'll have the same mess to deal with all over again in a few years. What you have to remember is that those who are fighting in Iraq volunteerd to go there. It isn't like it was in Viet Nam where people were drafted into the army and had no choice.
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    G118 Gunny March 24, 2008 19:39:04
    G118
    This war has gone on twice as long as WWII...

    Tell me what was the U.S. Death toll in WWII? It was 416,837.

    4,000 is a hell of a lot less than 416,837. When the U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 416,837 then you people can start bitching to bring the troops home.
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    MadHatter G118 March 24, 2008 20:00:22
    MadHatter
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