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Unions/Occupy Wall Street, Plan to Abolish Capitalism; What Will They Replace it With?

jr 2012/03/06 12:00:19
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There are 27,757,676 businesses in the US that affect every aspect of our lives. Can you imagine the turmoil that would result if these fools did indeed abolish our capitalist way of life? The plan is to crash our economic system allowing for a transfer of power to community organizers. Who do we know that came to power by way of community organizing?

See Video @ Breitbart.com
Breitbart.com has received exclusive tape of an Occupy Strategy Session
at New York University, billed as a group talk on “The Abolition of
Capitalism.”

Excerpts, Read More @ The Blaze
The only way to achieve their goals, therefore–the redistribution of
wealth and the return of “$17 trillion” stolen from the middle class by
Wall Street–is to “destabilize the country.”


This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the
stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of
power.


Lerner also says explicitly that, although the attack will benefit labor
unions, it cannot be seen as being organized by them. It must therefore
be run by community organizations.



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Read More: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/04...

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  • DJPanicDC 2012/03/16 13:34:55
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    DJPanicDC
    Economically socialism of course as far as politically democracy is the only choice other ideological views very from Anarchist to Marxist as well as syndicalist and communist among others but socialism and democracy are the only logical systems
  • JERSEYDUDE 2012/03/15 00:50:13
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    JERSEYDUDE
    +1
    we dont have capitalism we have corporatism
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2012/03/11 21:51:03
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    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +1
    They have to defeat the rest of us first and that's not going to happen. They need a hammer and sickle enema.
  • Racefish 2012/03/09 16:37:17
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    Racefish
    +2
    They really have no idea. I keep asking Progressives what they want us to progress to and none can give me an answer.
  • DJPanicDC Racefish 2012/03/16 13:36:13
    DJPanicDC
    I'm not sure who your asking, I'd sy most of us have a ppretty clear ideal
  • Racefish DJPanicDC 2012/03/16 16:47:21
    Racefish
    "Ideal" or "Idea"?
  • DJPanicDC Racefish 2012/03/17 03:39:56
    DJPanicDC
    I would say both, you need both an ideal to work for ana a idea of how to get thier
  • Racefish DJPanicDC 2012/03/17 16:51:33
    Racefish
    So what is the answer?
  • DJPanicDC Racefish 2012/03/17 19:49:53
    DJPanicDC
    The short answer is a equality, democracy, and freedom.
    To do this the first priority must be the removal of money from politics/ is the removal of money from politics, thereby allowing representation to all, There are different beliefs on how to do this some think we can work within the system, I believe it needs to be overthrown.

    Then we must establish a social safety net, and a a bill of rights that unlike the current one would include all people not those of a certain standing, gender, sexuality or race., And a constitution that should ensure that no one Not individual, church, government, or employer takes power away from the people again
    This constitution should also ensure that we end all forms of aggression on others, outlawing war. the death penalty, torture, etc.It should return the means of production resources to the people. and should solidify our position as part of the international community worldwide and as a egalitarian society at home. This is the basic direction that we should be progressing toward, Of course there are many views on systems and methods Ranging from Anarchism, to democratic socialism etc as well as the liberals, and Progressives, Greens, libertarians etc. but once we are again a free and democratic society all of these people wil...
    The short answer is a equality, democracy, and freedom.
    To do this the first priority must be the removal of money from politics/ is the removal of money from politics, thereby allowing representation to all, There are different beliefs on how to do this some think we can work within the system, I believe it needs to be overthrown.

    Then we must establish a social safety net, and a a bill of rights that unlike the current one would include all people not those of a certain standing, gender, sexuality or race., And a constitution that should ensure that no one Not individual, church, government, or employer takes power away from the people again
    This constitution should also ensure that we end all forms of aggression on others, outlawing war. the death penalty, torture, etc.It should return the means of production resources to the people. and should solidify our position as part of the international community worldwide and as a egalitarian society at home. This is the basic direction that we should be progressing toward, Of course there are many views on systems and methods Ranging from Anarchism, to democratic socialism etc as well as the liberals, and Progressives, Greens, libertarians etc. but once we are again a free and democratic society all of these people will have a vpice, there ideas will hold the same weight as the wealthy/ and we can decide the rest with democracy and consensus process once that is possibility achieve this, between true leftist, and,that no one does not have equal opportunity (I don't ean equal results btw jI elieve in a floor not a ceiling)
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  • Racefish DJPanicDC 2012/03/18 14:00:45
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    "the first priority must be the removal of money from politics"

    Didn't work. McCain Feingold is a failure.

    "a bill of rights that unlike the current one would include all people not those of a certain standing, gender, sexuality or race.,"

    So why would you waste time on deciding "who" would be put in when there's a chance someone would be left out? isn't the original good
    enough?

    "a constitution that should ensure that no one Not individual, church, government, or employer takes power away from the people again"

    The problem we have now is the fact our Constitution is perfectly fine. There will always be some who work to twist it to their own ends.

    "we end all forms of aggression on others, outlawing war."

    And if we are attacked???????????????

    "It should return the means of production resources to the people."

    As in, oh I don't know, Communism?

    "we can decide the rest with democracy and consensus process once that is possibility achieve this

    A true Democracy has been and will always be a failure. Juvenal was right. People will "always" vote to line their own pockets. Consequently, the fact there will never be enough of "other people's" money evidently means nothing.
  • Michaelene Racefish 2012/03/20 13:26:35
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    I agree 100%, during my several trips to Occupy Philly and OWS with my teens, the most important lessons they learned is that the majority of those in attendance are "clueless".
  • Racefish Michaelene 2012/03/20 20:40:35
    Racefish
    +1
    They're learning.
  • Michaelene Racefish 2012/03/21 14:33:13
    Michaelene
    From what I see, their learning to repeat what their drum circle leader shouts.
  • Racefish Michaelene 2012/03/21 15:56:46
    Racefish
    +1
    I was referring to your kids.
  • Michaelene Racefish 2012/03/22 13:45:56
    Michaelene
    Oh yeah, they are learning and angry about those who are making these rediculous demands while he and his friends are working multiple jobs, saving their money and paying for college.
    I was relieved because so many kids got involved just to be able to say "I was a part of history". As I see it, those youth will be collateral damage for the real proponents of Occupy (the cpusa, socialist democrats and even anarchists)
  • Racefish Michaelene 2012/03/22 16:31:22
    Racefish
    +1
    I'm glad you're letting them learn the truth on their own.
  • Michaelene Racefish 2012/03/23 10:23:03
    Michaelene
    Thanks, I've learned that teens won't listen to what an adult says, they needed to see it themselves. Once they did, they began to share what they witnessed with others.
  • teachaman~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/09 15:12:07 (edited)
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    teachaman~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    the way ALL socialist utopias wind up ...

    https://www.cia.gov/library/c...
    killing fields

    killing field

    holocaust

    rewanda civil war
  • rightside 2012/03/07 22:44:40
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    rightside
  • ScottyG - Faqueue 2012/03/07 20:19:26
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    +1
    Amerkia under the OWS and liberals will look like this.

    Tents1

    Tent2
  • politic... ScottyG... 2012/03/08 17:44:37
    politicalsoldier
    +1
    Well of course. That's the socialist utopia. Everyone is the same. Everyone is equally oppressed and living in abject poverty. All except for the ruling class that lives like kings, and the OWS types treat like gods, because they are Godless.
  • ScottyG... politic... 2012/03/10 22:48:46
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    HTNOTH!
  • ☆GrayBeard☆ ~PWCM~JLA~ 2012/03/07 16:16:46
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    ☆GrayBeard☆ ~PWCM~JLA~
    +2
    If you want to see what will happen if these idiots are successful, take a look at what happened in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge came to power with Pol Pot at the helm.

    The OWS fools are the bottom rung of the ladder, cannon-fodder, completely expendable useful idiots. If they are successful, they'll be the first to be incarcerated or eliminated (most likely the latter) because the reality of life under communism cannot live up to the fantasy they've been brainwashed to believe. They are too stupid to do anything but what they've been trained to do: disrupt things and cause trouble. They become a liability very quickly to the people pulling the strings and an enemy of the 'revolution'. To consolidate power and establish control, they have to be dealt with decisively and quickly, along with a great many other people deemed to be 'enemies of the revolution'. Mercy does not play into the equation.

    November 6th is going to be a pivotal day in American history. We need to use the time between now and then to determine if it will be an affirmation of July 4th, 1776 or another December 7th, 1941. America is the last, best hope for mankind. If Lady Liberty's torch is extinguished it'll be a thousand years before anything even close emerges again.
  • redhorse29 2012/03/07 08:37:21
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    Since the Occupy folks don't work and union laborers have jobs it looks like mixing oil and water. What will we get - anarchy. They are not capable of replacing our existing government or even running it. So there is little or no basis to this question.
  • Sawdust_128 2012/03/07 05:22:49
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    +2
    Unions workers and OWS are nothing more than the "USEFUL IDIOTS". They will be tossed to the curb like all useless trash.
  • JAA 2012/03/07 05:17:46
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    JAA
    +1
    They'll replace it with anarchy, because they don't have enough brains to organize anything that does not involve rape, murder, lying, stealing, turmoil, confusion, & injustice. It's real easy to act like a child, & children are unable to think past their own selfish needs, nor plan for a future where the welfare of the many are not discarded for the self-absorption of the few, & where morals are arbitrary, at best.
  • cutter's falls 2012/03/07 04:10:07
  • JJ Rage 2012/03/07 02:20:38
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    JJ Rage
    +1
    He will instate Totalitarianism.
  • D D 2012/03/07 01:48:26
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    D D
    +1
    socialism and communism. A combination of both.
  • politic... D D 2012/03/08 17:41:42
    politicalsoldier
    +1
    Don't forget with a little fascism on the side for ganishment.
  • Larson Whipsnade 2012/03/07 01:48:24
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    Larson Whipsnade
    +5
    they think Communism will be a paradise of handouts and entitlements, even though anybody who has survived Communism can tell you that's NEVER how it works out.
    ban books ban music hate blacks
  • Catch224u 2012/03/07 01:15:52
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    Catch224u
    +1
    We are already up to our necks in it.
  • ed 2012/03/07 01:07:50
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    ed
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    NOT A DAMN THING,because I for one will take out as many as I can before they have a chance and that's a promise.
  • Sam Nielsen 2012/03/07 00:49:36
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    Sam Nielsen
    +2
    Our capitalism run economy is done. The bankers have hijacked it and run it into the ground in a free for all money grab. It doesn't matter what it gets replaced with unless we eliminate central banking.
  • JAA Sam Nie... 2012/03/07 05:22:22
    JAA
    +1
    Government is in bed with them, so let's not forget that the banking/mortgage debacle could not have taken place without government run amok.
  • Sam Nie... JAA 2012/03/07 23:41:59
    Sam Nielsen
    They are all either members of or in cahoots with the illuminati and the new world order.
  • JAA Sam Nie... 2012/03/07 23:52:54
    JAA
    That goes to the far right of conspiracy theories & doesn't interest me. The world, no doubt, is heading for a One World Government, & the RCC is right up there w/ the elitists & power-mongers. Fortunately, as a Christian, I will be long gone before the SHTF.
  • Sam Nie... JAA 2012/03/07 23:56:18
  • JAA Sam Nie... 2012/03/08 00:55:17
    JAA
    Why do you have to be rude? I don't believe I said anything that should have warranted it. Bye.
  • politic... JAA 2012/03/08 17:39:14
    politicalsoldier
    I don't see how Sam was being rude. Just because he disagrees with you on the exact biblical interpratation of the rapture doesn't mean he's being rude.
    You are now acting like a liberal left-winger where if people don't agree with you on every subject, it's suddenly "hate speech" and must be silenced. Don't become like one of them. Our varying opinions and individuality are what freedom is all about.
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