I love the whole, "we'll never be able to end violence, because people are violent, so efforts to curb gun violence are stupid and a waste of time" arguments. I mean they are so well thought out. For example, I never wash my clothes or bathe because things get dirty no matter what.
Also, I find it interesting that the party that f*cking hates to think about gun registration, even though thousands of people die each year from gun violence, want to require people to have a voter registration card when they vote, even though voter fraud happens at a far lower rate and doesn't kill people, ever. What about my freedoms?
Also, also, equating the War on Drugs with trying to pass gun laws is f*cking ridiculous. These two things are not comparable at all. Really, they are not.
UNBLOCKED VERSION: Obama Says America Needs Soul Searching on Gun Violence: Will Obama Support Gun Control Before the Election?
melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
2012/08/08 12:37:42
There's a dud, I mean dude, around here who hates the Constitution and doesn't want anyone other than his sycophants at the pARTy--but this is an important topic--not just one for those who get stiffies just thinking about guns.
REUTERS.COM reports:

REUTERS.COM reports:
WASHINGTON
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Monday that mass killings
like the weekend shooting rampage at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin were
happening with too much regularity and should prompt soul searching by
all Americans, but he stopped short of calling for new gun-control laws.
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"This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility". ~ BO
THIS IS FROM THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS..
This has always been a hot ticket single issue for many voters. Some of which will stay home or perhaps even vote for Obama unless he "comes after" their guns.
He's mouthing just enough rhetoric to slightly placate gun control advocates, but there will be no substance following - not this year.
they've already decided they hate him - that he's coming after their guns [in spite of the fact that he has actively relaxed gun laws] - and believe the NRA when it says that he's relaxed the laws because of a nefarious plan to COME AFTER YOUR GUNS!
go figure.
so he should man-up and do the right thing [which could, btw, save lives] - not the politically expedient thing which, when you think about it, is not expedient at all. he won't though. he's far to timid to do that. so sad.
a) Keep his a$$ in the WH
b) Help the 'Transformation' of this country into a Marxist state.
Gun bans increase violence and death. To many, that simply reflects common sense and is perfectly rational. Luckily, we don't have to rely on anything as subjective as the common sense of people. Overwhelming statistical evidence supports it.
Why do Liberals love the thought of banning guns sooo much? It has never reduced violent crime or made a neighborhood safer anywhere it has been instituted.
1) Liberals associate guns with masculinity and Liberals are emasculaters.
2) Liberals swallow what Marxist leaders spoonfeed them, and Marxist leaders don't like armed populations.
3) Liberals feel strange when individuals are calling the shots(pun not intended) more than government.
OH no he di'in't! From my cold, dead....oh... he "stopped short"? Pfft, that's just code for "I'm going to invade your home and stealz your guns! Then I'm going to declare martial law and crown myself King!"
So...
Speaking about our fellow Americans in Pennsylvania..........
"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ barrach H. obama
It pretty much sums up what will actually happen. The NRA made that perfectly clear when they sent out e-mails asking for donations 3 days after the Sikh shooting. Claiming that, definitely now, Obama will seize all thier guns and take away the 2nd Amendment.
Funny, Obama's has been there for 3 years and nothing like that has occured.
I don't see Obama supporting anything with gun laws. It would be nice to bring back the assault rifle ban, but I think that's 50/50 unless he's pushed.
The whole gun ban thing is more political BS - it's amazing how these RWNJs are always so terrified about what Obama is planning to do IN THEIR MINDS.
He's the most powerful supervillian in history, and a weak apologizing America-hater, IN THEIR MINDS.
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Ultimately, someday - as soon as possible, although it will likely be a long while - I think we'd all like to live in a society that was free of guns and violence. That's the goal then that we should all work toward. It seems pretty simple to me: If that would be ideal, then that needs to be our mutual goal as a nation.
The answer, in my mind, the means to this end, is not banning guns incrementally, but rather incrementally creating the societal conditions in which guns become unnecessary. Eliminating root causes (of anything negative) is infinitely superior to trying to fix problems after the fact. If we, as I said somewhere on here last night, began repealing...
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Ultimately, someday - as soon as possible, although it will likely be a long while - I think we'd all like to live in a society that was free of guns and violence. That's the goal then that we should all work toward. It seems pretty simple to me: If that would be ideal, then that needs to be our mutual goal as a nation.
The answer, in my mind, the means to this end, is not banning guns incrementally, but rather incrementally creating the societal conditions in which guns become unnecessary. Eliminating root causes (of anything negative) is infinitely superior to trying to fix problems after the fact. If we, as I said somewhere on here last night, began repealing our drug laws for instance, we'd remove the artificially-high profit motive and thus eliminate practically all the gang and cartel violence, and much of the gun trafficking along with it (we'd also remove drug dealers from around our kids' schools and playgrounds, and empty approximately 1/3 of the prisons - inmates who were not-violent drug offenders, who only become hardened by incarceration and commit more crimes, including violent/gun-related crimes). The money spent on the war on drugs and housing these inmates (which is astronomical) could then be spent on drug prevention, and rehabilitation programs, and we'd create a commensurate number of working, tax-paying citizens in the process who will not commit gun or other violence in the long-term.
I'm off-topic, but not really. This is just one example of how we can incrementally remove the *need* and *desire* for guns, in a way that leaves the 2nd Amendment completely untouched. I'd also look very hard at some of the progressive solutions that have been decried for so long, by so many. Does anybody realize that - another quick example - under the Conyers/Kucinich health plan that was sidelined last year in favor of this monstrosity we have now, which few people like - their H.R. 676, universal Medicare for all - Jared Loughner would have had not just the full health, eye care and dental, but also complete *mental* health coverage? Would it have averted the Tuscon tragedy specifically? Would he have taken advantage of it and gotten help, in his own particular instance? I don't know the answer. But I do know that a large, large number of people all across the country who have similar mental issues *would*, before we have to read about their mental health issues in local newspaper front pages, detailing their arrest and the number of people murdered or wounded by them. Such guaranteed, basic care, as a right, would give people who have these types of problems the understanding that society values them, that they have basic dignity and are worthwhile citizens. I have to believe that things like this are the reason the crime rate is so low in other industrialized countries, whether or not - or to whatever extent - they've outlawed guns.
Now Mr. King from New York wants to ban guns within 1,000 feet of federal buildings. Will this really help? Could this *possibly* prevent an already disturbed assailant (who was left, by society, to become disturbed) from committing a gun crime - a shooting - once he is mentally set on it? No. To prevent any possibility of future shootings we'd have to turn the entire 1,000-ft. radius around every federal building into a military zone, and that would cost more than the preventive solutions I'm endeavoring here to describe.
In summary, it's a long-term goal, but eliminating poverty and lack, and with it the perceived need, the perceived desperation, out of which individuals act in violent ways, *that* is the type of gun control we should be working toward, and such doesn't seem at first sight to have anything to do with guns. It does. It's idealistic, it's not going to come together tomorrow or next week, but with every root cause we're able to weaken or eliminate, we prevent violence, in measure, and save lives.