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Unblocked: Are there really that many stupid people out there that don't realize Obama's "job-killing" regulations are a part of the Democrats agenda?

ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/10/27 03:08:48

Unblocked: Are there really that many stupid people out there that don't realize Obama's "job-killing" regulations are a part of the Democrats agenda?

The stupid people are the ones who won't accept the fact that small businesses say regulations and taxes are not stopping them from growing. Small businesses welcome some regulations. More importantly, it's hypocritical to say President Obama's administration has gone regulation crazy when Bush administration put more rules in place that Obama has at the same time in his presidency.

The stupid ones are also the ones who block because they know what they say is bullshit and they don't want anyone challenging them. There are ways to get around that. This post is proof.
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  • unclepat 2011/10/27 09:08:25
    unclepat
    +1
    Conservatives to this day believe that the path to prosperity is only to be gained with DIRTIER AIR or DIRTIER WATER, SLAVE LABOR, ELIMINATION OF THE MINUMUM WAGE, GETTING RID OF CHILD LABOR LAWS...ALL UNDER THE FALLACY OF "JOB CREATION".
  • Jimbo 2011/10/27 06:00:03
    Jimbo
    +1
    Very proud that most of the time I am blocked by 1/3 of the conservative top question posters. It shows they can't debate and I've gotten their goat calling them out to back their talking points.
  • Ravinous 2011/10/27 04:58:02
    Ravinous
    The problem with regulation in practice is that regulatory practices of the Federal level should only effect major commerce that crosses state borders or national borders. The only time it should ever interfere with small business (who operate within states) should be when constitutional rights are oppressed. That being said thanks to the internet and ease of out of state shipping, all small businesses are basically blanketed by Federal regulation.

    This unfortunately hurts small business in America and prevents their growth. Meanwhile we have big interstate and international businesses getting a fair bit of unfair treatment via subsidies and tax breaks.

    Corporate welfare should not be used to maintain a business, however it should be used to start one via a loan. I think the interest rate on said loan should be adjusted on how much it produces jobs and it's profitability.

    Regulations are pretty much a mess in their current state and are not being used to benefit the market, the consumers, or the society in whole. They are being used to only favor a few elite corporations and banks who give hefty "donations" to politicians.
  • Jimbo Ravinous 2011/10/27 05:58:31
    Jimbo
    +1
    So your states high sulphur coal burning electrical plant does not affect my state's air quality? Ever see a Chinese fisherman burn his hand putting it into the water? Want to vacation on an oil covered Gulf beach? Want doors locked to finish quotas, fire hazards like the Triangle Shirt Waist factory? How about a river of coal sludge burying your town? Like benzine in your drinking water? Want your kids playing with unsafe toys? Want to take untested drugs? Like self-regulating financial crashes with 7 million jobs lost?
  • Ravinous Jimbo 2011/10/27 07:27:07 (edited)
    Ravinous
    Many of those things you talk about over all fall under the protection of people's rights to life and liberty, namely protection of their property. Also, Power, while it can be privatized, is still defined as infrastructure (which basically only included roads, but changed for things they would know nothing about later on) which the Federal government can set basic standards.

    In continuation, many of those industries you set are controlled by multinational corporations which can be regulated by congress.
  • Jimbo Ravinous 2011/10/27 12:27:10
    Jimbo
    Ahem.

    "The problem with regulation in practice is that regulatory practices of the Federal level should only effect major commerce that crosses state borders or national borders." Then you post, "rights to life and liberty, namely protection of their property." "which the Federal government can set basic standards."

    Are you for your position or against your position, you can't have it both ways. Should my states insurance premiums go up because an out of stater without insurance ended up in a hospital emergency room?
  • Ravinous Jimbo 2011/10/27 16:16:21
    Ravinous
    "The only time it should ever interfere with small business (who operate within states) should be when constitutional rights are oppressed."

    Also, once again, most insurance companies are multinational or multistate. And the effect of your insurance rates only changes when an insurance company you choose to be under raises them. I've lived with no insurance before, and I've gone to the emergency room, guess what, you pay the bill yourself, so your scenario isn't really valid. Your looking for an argument that is even there.
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2011/10/27 03:29:45
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    Regulations protect the rest of us. I really don't care how many jobs people think they kill. Are we supposed to employ people to wreck the environment and endanger the financial system... again?
  • Ravinous FAWKES'... 2011/10/27 04:46:53
    Ravinous
    To be fair though, there are regulations that are made to also help special interest. It's using regulatory practices wisely that seems to be the problem, namely when and when not to implement them and for for what reason.
  • Brianna Lee 2011/10/27 03:21:02
  • unclepat Brianna... 2011/10/27 09:10:19
    unclepat
    In other words you've got nothing to bring to the conversation, huh?

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