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UCLA Scientist Fired for Not Being PC?

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Remember the bad old days of the PC Police? That halcyon time in the late '80s and early '90s when college campuses became hotbeds of rigid rules on speech, when you had to watch how you referred to any group or gender lest you get outed as a bigot, sexist or, perhaps worst of all, Neanderthal.

UCLA professor Dr. James Enstrom fears those times are upon us again. After more than 36 years as a non-tenured prof in the school’s public health department, the epidemiologist recently got the boot when his contract was not renewed because his research is “not aligned with the academic mission” of his department.

According to Fox News, Enstrom thinks he was shown the door simply because his views are “politically incorrect” and go against some commonly held views.

For instance, in 2003 he wrote a study published in the British Medical Journal that found a causal relationship between secondhand smoke and tobacco-related deaths. Now, keep in mind that conclusion goes against popular belief and research on the topic, but please note that his study was funded by, well, cigarette giant Philip Morris. So, that’s something.

But it was his most recent work in which he found no causal link between diesel soot and death in California that appear to have landed him in the doghouse. In addition to putting him in the minority again, the findings also conflicted with those of the California Air Resources Board, which argues that its new standards on diesel emissions will save 9,400 lives between 2011 and 2025 and reduce health care costs by up to $68 billion in the state.

The university said it can’t discuss personnel matters, but less than a month after Enstrom and some other scientists presented the Air Resources Board with their findings and he co-authored a June op-ed on the topic, he was told his contract would not be renewed.

Enstrom is appealing the decision and has filed a complaint under the UCLA Whistle Blower Protection Policies act.

Did Professor Enstrom Deserve to Be Fired?
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  • Fef 2010/09/02 16:21:55
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    Fef
    +14
    Public schools and universities like UCLA have a political agenda and they won't let the truth or even the pursuit of the truth interfere with that agenda. Universities once allowed dissent and championed research contrary to the mainstream. Now the Left wants total conformity with its political beliefs.

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  • Alejandra 2010/09/03 20:35:28
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    Alejandra
    Political Correctness is like a virus it's taken over this Country once again..! Now even Universities are jumping on the bandwagon..they use to be a place were new ideas could be formed..but they get money from specific people..and to have reports like Professor Enstroms's reach the real media..would not bode well, with the financiers
  • askmike Alejandra 2010/09/03 20:57:19
    askmike
    +1
    Wow. An academic for 36 years who has not yet achieved tenure and you claim this paragon of academia was only set adrift because of PC? His employment at UCLA was on a year to year basis because he did not or could not satisfy the requirements of tenure. The man was not the star you think he was.
  • Alejandra askmike 2010/09/03 21:00:28
    Alejandra
    So, his political incorrectness had nothing to do with it.? kind of strange they let him go this time..hmm.!
  • askmike Alejandra 2010/09/03 21:07:07
    askmike
    +1
    Yeah. Sure. He should have earned tenure within his first 4 to 6 years. The requirements are defined for every instructor and all he needed was to prove he was an above average instructor. You can look for shadows behind doors if you like, but his performance placed him on a level where up and coming applicants could and would supplant him on staff.
  • Alejandra askmike 2010/09/03 21:13:13
    Alejandra
    +1
    I Do Value you Opinion!..but I still have my own..!
  • ServantOfAllah 2010/09/03 14:03:10 (edited)
    Yes, the university can do as it wishes
    ServantOfAllah
    +1
    university
    Now HOW could THAT be bad for you to breathe?
  • intolerantrwj 2010/09/03 12:36:59
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    intolerantrwj
    Whhhhhoooopppsss ..... bet it doesn't do that again .... pissin' on the P C Gestapo has it's consequences !
  • Sutekh 2010/09/03 11:35:18
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    Sutekh
    +1
    That just goes to show that instead of the medieval Roman Catholic Church controlling the univesities, we now have the Geocalorian Taliban. Religions like to take over universities because that's where they can proselytize, and they like to take over governments, because then they can force others who don't covert to bow to their religion.

    Climate control has become a religion. Enstrom is being treated like Galileo.
  • askmike Sutekh 2010/09/03 14:08:26
    askmike
    +1
    Get a grip. He had been on staff for 36 years and had not achieved tenure in all of that time. He could have had tenure in about 4 to 6 years if his perfomance as an educator had been above average.
  • Sutekh askmike 2010/09/03 20:35:34
    Sutekh
    I guess without knowing specific details, we will never know. The jury will, though. Civil suits are by preponderance of evidence, so there will be a lot.
  • kevjon 2010/09/03 11:16:38
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    kevjon
    +1
    How dare he go against the brain wash agenda of the left..who does he think he is, publishing the truth. He is slowing the socialist takeover of the nation and risks the chance of distorting kids minds with truth.
    The man needs to apply at Texas A&M; where he could merge with like minds.....
  • askmike kevjon 2010/09/03 14:11:00
    askmike
    +1
    Believe it or not, Texas A&M did not get where it is at by hiring faculty who had not performed well enough in 36 years to achieve tenure. His resume would not be attractive to any top level school, and UCLA proved it by letting him go.
  • Edward 2010/09/03 10:37:49
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    Edward
    when things like this happen we really are headed in the wrong direction.
  • doodad 2010/09/03 05:34:54
    Yes, the university can do as it wishes
    doodad
    +1
    The school can do as they wish. I don't think there should be tenure for any professor, but since this guy wasn't, they could let him go at their whim. I hope he wins his appeal and really sticks it to them by publishing even MORE non-scripted-by-the-Left findings, though. I am surprised that they didn't have their two economists arrested that called out FDR's crap economic policies as having prolonged the Depression by 7 years!
  • Royal W... doodad 2010/09/04 04:06:03
    Royal Warrior
    +1
    You and I think along the same lines about tenure. I have seen too often that tenure simply rewards those who go-along with the politics of those in power. And years later, I found it was a TENURED teacher, who could NOT be fired, who made my life miserable one year, and made every student who had her, decide NOT to go into that subject for a profession, or take ANY classes of that subject as an elective again. The school administration admited to my parents that she was terrible, but...A counselor actually admitted to me, that the school had to institute a rule that no switching of teachers would be allowed at all, for any reason, because this teacher would have ended up with NO students. So much for tenure going to 'the teachers who meet performane standards'
  • doodad Royal W... 2010/09/04 05:01:55
  • Mr. Marcus 2010/09/03 04:29:42
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    Mr. Marcus
    Kind of a no-brainer.
  • askmike Mr. Marcus 2010/09/03 04:38:31
    askmike
    Sure. But it took his supervisors 36 years to can him for his beliefs? He did not have tenure and his job at UCLA was a year to year situation. So of course you are correct. But it took them 36 years to make that decision?
  • Redneck 2010/09/03 04:26:27
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    Redneck
    When I was on one of my clinical rotations when in Physical Therapy school, I had a C.I. that told me I wasn't PC enough because I didn't refer to "minorities" as __________/Americans. If I'm lying, I'm dying. I thanked her for the complement. :) Otherwise we got a long great, though.
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2010/09/03 02:57:52
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +1
    I really can not answer yes or no to this question but I do have first hand experience about the second hand smoke lie. I was raised by my step-father from the time I was 4 until I turned 21. During that time he chained smoked. To this day (I'm 60 now) I do NOT have any problems with asthma or any kind of lung problems. This second hand smoke business is out of hand and it restricts the rights of others to smoke. I do not smoke but others still have their rights to smoke if they choose.
  • Sutekh lady_c5... 2010/09/03 11:38:04
    Sutekh
    My loving wife recently died of lung cancer, after a year's worth of attempts to cure it. She never smoked a day in her life. However, for thirty years she was married to a chain smoker. A chain smoker is someone who has a lit cigarette in his or her mouth every waking minute.

    My wife died at age 63. You are celebrating because you made it to 60. Maybe you better delay the party a little while longer.
  • lady_c5... Sutekh 2010/09/03 16:15:05
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +1
    My step father used the end of one cigarette to light his new cigarette thats how bad he was. By the way I just saw the Dr. last month and my lungs are still good, strong and clean.
  • Sutekh lady_c5... 2010/09/03 20:36:57
    Sutekh
    +1
    Excellent. I'm really happy about that. Just never forget how lucky you are.

    BTW, my wife's ex is still smoking and that old fossil is in his 70's now. Some have the constitution to resist it. Others don't.
  • lady_c5... Sutekh 2010/09/04 06:08:02
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    I am sorry you lost your wife, she was still young (according to people my age). It always seems we loose the ones we don't want to and the ones we wish would go away never do.
  • Sutekh lady_c5... 2010/09/04 12:22:31
    Sutekh
    Looking it from an evangelical perspective, God gives the bad people time to clean up their acts before the jig is up. Those who have achieved perfection are ready to go.

    My mother is a little less evangelical about lifetime variance between the so called good and the evil. She says some people have a long life because they are so mean that even the Devil doesn't want them.
  • lady_c5... Sutekh 2010/09/04 17:17:00
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    I think I like your mother, I have heard a simular quote before. I also agree with you in that GOD takes us when our work on earth is finished even if it is at a young age.
  • Sutekh lady_c5... 2010/09/05 03:19:46
    Sutekh
    My mother is ultraconservative and ultraliberal at the same time. Her take on homosexuality, for instance, is that some of these people "just can't help themselves." That is not a pseudoscientific position stating a fictional cause for homosexuality. That is just her view of the reality of what the situation is.
  • lady_c5... Sutekh 2010/09/05 07:43:20
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    I look at this way - we are all sinners but we all have a choice to do right or wrong. It is sometimes easier to give into the things we know are wrong instead of doing what is right. It is these choices that make us who we are.
  • Royal W... lady_c5... 2010/09/04 04:13:04
    Royal Warrior
    +1
    However, there ARE those of us, who DO get very sick when exposed to second-hand smoke. I am so sensitive to nicotine that I will run to the bathroom to make it to the toilet before I heave up the entire contents of my stomach. Perhaps not as dramatic as cancer, but still terrible. Plus, I will for several hours afterwards, have trouble breathing. At least snuff and such doesn't get the nicotine out in the air for me to have to breathe.
    And it's NOT psychological. I reacted that same way several times, when someone would light up, out of my sight, but where the smoke came into my lungs. Before I could even identify the smell as being cigarette, pipe or cigar smoke, I would be heading for the bathroom. Actually, if I see the cigarettes, I can hold out a while longer, as I brace for the feeling.
  • FumbDuck 2010/09/03 02:51:21
    No, he was fired for his beliefs
    FumbDuck
    +1
    He probably insulted someone or didn't kiss ass when he should have. Since they could not fire him for what he did they laid in wait and pounced on the first excuse that became handy. Happens all the time to people who sweep floors, or clean horse stables, or operate machine in factory. He was in a place where politics is the name of the game bb. It may not be right but let this be a lesson to you.
  • askmike FumbDuck 2010/09/03 03:06:30
    askmike
    Did you read the posting? He is not a tenured instructor but he has been on staff for 36 years. There are valid reasons the man did not have tenure, and those reasons have been in his files for decades and the man was aware of his evaluations. So where do you come up with this"first excuse" stuff?
  • FumbDuck askmike 2010/09/04 04:23:44
    FumbDuck
    Valid reasons, the man did not have tenure, on staff for 36 years, all of this was in his files for decades, you have explained it and want me to elaborate I guess. I can't help you if you have not been paying attention. Or maybe you never been around the block I can't figure out if I am confused or you are just plain in the dark no matter how much light someone shines on it.
  • askmike FumbDuck 2010/09/04 14:32:32
    askmike
    So in light of the man's lack of tenure after 36 years of opportunities to prove his worth to the school, and the fact that his future employment was tenuous at best, you still insist that the "pounced on the first excuse that came handy" to discharge him? I have been paying attention. Educators whose performance on the job makes them a valuable asset to the students, to the department, and to the school are offered permanent employment to keep them from seeking employment at a different school and UCLA told him decades ago that his employment was year to year. How you can claim they released him on the first excuse that came handy proves you are the one who has not been paying attention.
  • FumbDuck askmike 2010/09/04 23:14:43
    FumbDuck
    You are the one who says they allowed him to remain employed for THIRTY SIX YEARS. I was fired once for being five minutes late and I happen to know that was not the actual for real reason. So yes I will continue to insist that if a man was allowed to stay employed for 36 years then the excuse they used to " get rid of him " was not the one they say.
  • askmike FumbDuck 2010/09/04 23:20:41
    askmike
    Yep. That was all of a sudden. He had no idea his employment was in peril. He was as witless as you.
  • FumbDuck askmike 2010/09/05 23:51:24
    FumbDuck
    He was a college professor he was smarter than you and me put together. After all you and me are dumb enuff to argue with each other here on Soda Head. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME!!!!
  • FumbDuck askmike 2010/09/10 05:38:06
    FumbDuck
    You need to change the user name read some of the comments here you are the clueless one. Why would anyone want to ask a narrow minded uneducated know it all who doesn't know anything just likes to insult people and argue.
  • Sutekh FumbDuck 2010/09/06 19:16:51
    Sutekh
    Yeah, I know about that sort of stuff. My father was minister in a hierarchical Protestant denomination. A friend of mine in professional school who was Roman Catholic asked me if ministers in my church had to kiss the bishop's ring. I told him that they have to kiss something else.
  • FumbDuck Sutekh 2010/09/07 20:42:21
    FumbDuck
    Some people just don't get it, thank you Sutekh.
  • Sutekh FumbDuck 2010/09/07 22:57:53
    Sutekh
    As Yogi Bear said after practicing with his boomerang arrow: "BooBoo, I always get it in the end."
    Some of these people will get it in the end at last, when Obama says, "Bend over, it's coming."

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