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jt 2012/06/12 18:54:32
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As Euro going down the drain now... U stand by with? Just curious...

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  • EllЕ 2012/08/23 19:56:35
    U S Dollar
    EllЕ
    If Euro falls first, more countries will turn to US dollar & p. metals.
    Actually, fall of Euro can slowdown US$ inflation, but Obama policies can sink USD - first, before Euro.
  • john Kills 2012/06/14 06:30:18
    U S Dollar
    john Kills
    +1
    Is failing. I'm putting money in silver bars and coins
  • sherie 2012/06/13 22:56:31
    U S Dollar
    sherie
    +1
    Dollar....but that's shakey....given the choice i would go with gold!
  • Captain-Morgan 2012/06/13 17:02:00
    U S Dollar
    Captain-Morgan
    +1
    GREEN BACKS ANY AND EVERYDAY...
  • Bear 2012/06/13 13:23:10
    U S Dollar
    Bear
    +2
    I'm from the UK...we dont use the Euro..only pounds sterling...anything is better than the Euro,even the yen,dollar,drakma,even swapping goods with other goods
  • beach bum 2012/06/13 12:57:27
    U S Dollar
    beach bum
    +1
    dollar
  • mariner 2012/06/13 11:50:32
    U S Dollar
    mariner
    +1
    the aussie dollar actually
  • vdehl 2012/06/13 08:15:22
    U S Dollar
    vdehl
    +1
    I guess most sodaheads live here. Whatever the case, I wish I had a lot more of them. I keep getting these fantastic horoscopes about my experiencing unprecedented abundance in a few weeks, but my real financial picture continues to be poor. Have not yet experienced the guidance and support of the archangel that's support to bring this abundance. Money is good. Now... where is it?
  • Tyasia Thomas 2012/06/13 07:34:12
    Euro
    Tyasia Thomas
    +1
    ITS WORTH MORE sorry caps lock... and I have always wanted to go to France plus the euro amount is also categorized by the size so the higher the quality of the dollar the bigger the dollar is
  • DoxieDad 2012/06/13 02:11:55
    U S Dollar
    DoxieDad
    +1
    If something is not done to cut our national deficit the Dollar will follow the Euro down the drain.
  • James 2012/06/13 02:07:28
    U S Dollar
    James
    +2
    It's still a global currency. If the Euro goes down, it just means more Americans will be able to afford to go to Europe and European companies invested in the U.S. will be able to collect revenues that have been held here until a more favorable time.
  • sarahbearer 2012/06/12 23:18:50
    U S Dollar
    sarahbearer
    +1
    I don't really care I care bout aus dollars
  • Kirino 2012/06/12 21:25:51
  • none 2012/06/12 20:48:57
    U S Dollar
    none
    +2
    The EU, Socialism, and the adoption of the Euro are the cause of Europe's problems.
  • LisaWay... none 2012/06/13 00:00:59 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +4
    Right. They fell for that EU lure. And same entity (IMF; BIS) is in charge of both currencies. The Fed Reserve, (the US arm of those international stock companies) a few months ago 'bailed out' euro by trading them some dollars for their failing Euros, so we got stuck with a fist full of Euro's, and that did not help Euro, since they are still crashing. Why didn't it help? Because they traded for US Dollars, duh. The FED owns all notes and profits regardless, on the backs of us all... Their money is not backed by anything but perception. It isn't even money, it's ledger entry CREDIT, for cryin' out loud, and since their worthless money is nothing more than an apparition based on perception, they are essentially trading currencies with themselves, moving money around to create short term APPEARANCE of a fix. Their funny money bubble is bursting, just as every such scheme has always finally blown up. (Avg. life expectancy of a FIAT currency is about 35 yrs.) They were only able to stretch it out a bit longer now due to global comm tech and their global private ownership of major western currency trade. This is what we get for being sucked into money scams by private international 'bankers'. I can't believe ppl are still falling for the longest standing ponzi scam in human history, EVEN when it's constantly resurrected by the same dang banksters! sheesh.
  • ConLibF... LisaWay... 2012/06/13 00:27:11
    ConLibFraud
    +2
    You are aware of our private birth trust accounts?
  • LisaWay... ConLibF... 2012/06/13 00:33:54
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +2
    I've heard of it, read a bit on it, but still not really sure what it means...
  • ConLibF... LisaWay... 2012/06/13 00:58:27
    ConLibFraud
    +2
    You are 100% correct about the ponzi scam. But these are our accounts that the government and banks use without our permission. Every loan we have ever gotten was already paid for. All of our taxes have already been paid. They are supposed to let us use the remedy for this to release the debt that the government and banks make but they don't. They need to all be tried for treason. Look at the back of your SS ID card. You will see a red 9 digit account number. That is YOUR private birth trust account.
  • Gunner 2012/06/12 20:38:45
    U S Dollar
    Gunner
  • Kirino Gunner 2012/06/12 21:24:53
  • LisaWay... Kirino 2012/06/13 10:39:37 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +1
    I think of that as just basic math. Economics is a lot harder-- they force you to wrap your mind around money from thin air, (and Keynesians can make a loaf of bread from a stone, too), and then you're supposed to follow invisible money around-- gives me a headache! lol And then there's microeconomics...forget about it. Dropped that for arts & crafts. I can make an origami calf from a dollar and sell it to for five. ha
  • LisaWay... Gunner 2012/06/13 00:16:38 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +1
    no. Today's rates from that link you gave, (same as any other currency conversion source): 1 USD = 0.800247 EUR => that means, $1 US Dollar is worth 80% of a Euro, so Euro is still worth more, but it is plummeting fast, for same reasons. Still, in other words, today, you need US $1.20 to get one Euro.

    As for the British Pound, (GBP)m Britain did NOT join the Eurozone, so their money has always been worth more since that started. But it, too, used to be worth more than TWICE the USD (again, also devalued for same reasons). Still, here's today's rates from the link you gave: 1 GBP = 1.55631 USD. So you need US $1.55 to get one British Pound.

    Same scam, same international private banksters in charge of it, and they will profit regardless, as long as they are allowed to issue "CREDIT" from thin air and get paid interest back on our backs. As long as we fall for that scheme, private bankers own the world-- and they 'fund' federal candidates, quid pro quo; and same private "bank" funds and profits from federal programs and militant ventures on future phony credit, raising all taxes and prices and debt for the ppl-- a policy either ignored or OK'd by all POTUS' starting with Nixon and all establishment candidates and most of Congress...
  • EdVenture Gunner 2012/06/13 00:58:00
    EdVenture
    +1
    now you sound like Romney.
  • flaca BN-0 2012/06/12 20:34:46
    U S Dollar
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    If the euro goes down a lot it's bad news for us though. It means our exports will be too expensive for Europeans and that will affect our exporting companies.
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/06/12 19:33:42
    U S Dollar
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    The dollar was undervalued until now.
  • Mark 2012/06/12 19:23:28
    Euro
    Mark
    +1
    Standing with a currency seems a strange turn of phrase. Pound sterling seems to be Mr Solid until the rimbi takes over.
  • Calvin Harris ✌ 2012/06/12 19:08:43
    U S Dollar
    Calvin Harris ✌
    +2
    Because I'm American and never been to Europe so I don't know what's going on with European economy.
  • LisaWay... Calvin ... 2012/06/13 00:27:36 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +2
    Same thing that's going on with ours, as far as these currency manipulators go. Same private international banking entity in charge of both. Our Fed Reserve is just the US arm of what is officially registered as a private international stock company, subject to no nations' law, much less audit. Back in March our Fed Reserve just "bailed out" Euro again, by trading them some USD's for Euro, on credit, of course. (Essentially trading money with itself, but charging interest to all they bailout). So our FED has stuck us with a fistful of Euro's; and that wasn't enough to help Eurozone, since they fell for the Dollar created from thin air by the same ppl. This private credit banking system in control of the western world has never worked and will always break us.
  • Salonje 2012/06/12 19:02:34
    U S Dollar
    Salonje
    +1
    The dollar and the euro will/have declined of the years.
  • Lili13 2012/06/12 19:01:55
    Euro
    Lili13
    +2
    what happened to £pound
  • flaca BN-0 Lili13 2012/06/12 20:33:48
    flaca BN-0
    +3
    they still use it. Britain opted not to move over to the Euro.
  • LisaWay... flaca BN-0 2012/06/13 08:30:14
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +1
    gee, wonder why? lol... But they encourage all of it, esp these huge global alliances, so they can't help but be sucked into their own association/reliance on Euro and Dollar, so the Pound is still worth more, but not nearly as much more...it's all going down.
  • flaca BN-0 LisaWay... 2012/06/14 20:09:22
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    not all euro countries behaved badly: they're having problems because they're having to bail out the bad ones, and because our financial meltdown wiped out their worth, having much of it invested here. Their probs began right at the same time as our collapse in 2008.
  • LisaWay... flaca BN-0 2012/06/15 01:55:59 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    Yes, agreed. BUT the problem is w/the underlying SHARED corrupt private root system of money, not with those who are given NO CHOICE but to adapt to that corrupt system after the fact.

    Some will always do better than others, within given parameters. But in this case, to work within those pre-existing parameters is to work with & to be dependent upon a corrupt root system that promotes only PERCEIVED values of fiat/unbacked currency, as defined by its private, UNnatural, perceivably untouchable root creators. This fabricated basis for a monetary system has been tried many times and is found to be, from its inception, doomed to fail.

    (Then add to that, on top of the inherently mushy foundational policy, the confusion surrounding forced association with a whole bunch of other countries that may or may not be concerned with same specific problems & may or may not otherwise be in line w/one understood idea/ideal.)

    Any good intentions are lost in the 1st place as fruit of the proverbial poison tree, and in the 2nd place by an attempt to cull out poison fruits after the fact and make the system work for good within our own country & also for the good of others' whom we may not understand, all under the boundaries defined by a corrupt originating SEPARATE PRIVATE system...

    ALL problems of...



    Yes, agreed. BUT the problem is w/the underlying SHARED corrupt private root system of money, not with those who are given NO CHOICE but to adapt to that corrupt system after the fact.

    Some will always do better than others, within given parameters. But in this case, to work within those pre-existing parameters is to work with & to be dependent upon a corrupt root system that promotes only PERCEIVED values of fiat/unbacked currency, as defined by its private, UNnatural, perceivably untouchable root creators. This fabricated basis for a monetary system has been tried many times and is found to be, from its inception, doomed to fail.

    (Then add to that, on top of the inherently mushy foundational policy, the confusion surrounding forced association with a whole bunch of other countries that may or may not be concerned with same specific problems & may or may not otherwise be in line w/one understood idea/ideal.)

    Any good intentions are lost in the 1st place as fruit of the proverbial poison tree, and in the 2nd place by an attempt to cull out poison fruits after the fact and make the system work for good within our own country & also for the good of others' whom we may not understand, all under the boundaries defined by a corrupt originating SEPARATE PRIVATE system...

    ALL problems of western economics arise from the same root source. So, it is by fatally flawed DESIGN- pre-existing foundational corrupt root design- that ANY in-the-moment/superficial fix/improvement, no matter how smart or well-intended, CAN ONLY BE another futile attempt to spray bad leaves without addressing the rotten root: None of that can be any more than a very short term APPEARANCE of fix, b/c it is based on utter disregard of a rotten root underground, unseen without digging- a deception of perception not of our own making in the 1st place. This is why ALL actions of those who do Not "behave badly", still holding with the root system, are as yet still works arising from that rotten death-prone root, so naturally can wield NO power of life-affirming change.

    After repetition, short term similar actions of momentary do-gooders have the effect in reality of an extension and amplification of the very problem meant to be addressed. And the longer we let rotten roots fester, the more traumatic, difficult, painful and scary any necessary survival change becomes. We in the USA, not so long ago, were given a law of government, a simple manual of immeasurable intellect. I always suggest we first and best defer that.

    (re: money, obvioulsy start with Article I., Section 8; but let the afore and aft text be taken into full account, that we may know the whole spirit of the law)
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  • LisaWay... flaca BN-0 2012/06/15 04:14:44 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    • People have a hard time letting go of their suffering. Out of a fear of the unknown, they prefer suffering that is familiar.(~Thích Nhất Hạnh) As we come 'down to the wire", ppl still resist change perceived as dramatic. That is human nature. That human nature is the reason for our US Constitution & rule of law, which, for one thing OUTLAWS FIAT & COUNTERFEITING. The intent of that law is to prevail while we humans are in the throws of war, passion and trauma, when we are fueled by base instinct of fear, and arrogance and perception of superior power. Our laws ushered in The Age of Reason meant to give us guidance in THESE VERY HUMAN TIMES. It is in these times that those pragmatic, well versed laws become MOST needed & best used. Yet, lured by short term man-made root systems, away from our founding fathers and their struggle to live free, we tend toward carrying on under familiar pain. All change may be painful, but NATURE, including human nature, is subject to change. All life changes. Life is pliable & yielding, as a river seeks its own level, trees bend with wind. Change is THE sign of life enduring. In trees and in bones, DEATH is brittle & hard; after death any change breaks us. We are witnessing the death throws of a finite currency breaking. Only by hard change do we su...
    • People have a hard time letting go of their suffering. Out of a fear of the unknown, they prefer suffering that is familiar.(~Thích Nhất Hạnh) As we come 'down to the wire", ppl still resist change perceived as dramatic. That is human nature. That human nature is the reason for our US Constitution & rule of law, which, for one thing OUTLAWS FIAT & COUNTERFEITING. The intent of that law is to prevail while we humans are in the throws of war, passion and trauma, when we are fueled by base instinct of fear, and arrogance and perception of superior power. Our laws ushered in The Age of Reason meant to give us guidance in THESE VERY HUMAN TIMES. It is in these times that those pragmatic, well versed laws become MOST needed & best used. Yet, lured by short term man-made root systems, away from our founding fathers and their struggle to live free, we tend toward carrying on under familiar pain. All change may be painful, but NATURE, including human nature, is subject to change. All life changes. Life is pliable & yielding, as a river seeks its own level, trees bend with wind. Change is THE sign of life enduring. In trees and in bones, DEATH is brittle & hard; after death any change breaks us. We are witnessing the death throws of a finite currency breaking. Only by hard change do we survive in nature, and humans are part of that nature, and government nature is part of human nature. NO BODY can survive in defiance of its own nature. Within birth-given human nature, the manifestation of money, be it chattel or cigarettes or gold, is a naturally occurring phenomenon which no man or body of men can define or control in perpetuity.
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  • LisaWay... flaca BN-0 2012/06/15 04:50:10 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    ...The manifestation of money, be it chattel or cigarettes or gold, is a naturally occurring phenomenon which no man or body of men can define or control in perpetuity. Yes, it is true, throughout history and human natural history, the only valuable money was, is and will be NATURALLY and FREELY occurring. No man nor body of men can create a money to serve us all! It is not just a good idea, it is NATURAL LAW, well recognized FIRST officially in the western world by Our own US Founding Fathers, who outlawed counterfeiting and fiat King-made money, and put the power of the purse into the hands of the Congress and the People! There is NO successful precedent in human history, much less US Law, in spirit or in fact, that allows A SEPARATE PRIVATE ENTITY TO DEFINE AND be in complete CONTROL of OUR MONEY, always for their own profit!
  • Lili13 flaca BN-0 2012/06/13 15:51:34
    Lili13
    +2
    Yh i know Britain opted out , i live here ;]
  • Emory2016 2012/06/12 19:01:52
    Euro
    Emory2016
    +1
    The Euro is worth more that the US dollar...our dollar value has deflated. One dollar in Europe is .50 euros!!! SUCKS!!!

    When at first you don't suceed try again!!!
  • Gunner Emory2016 2012/06/12 20:40:33
    Gunner
    +1
    The opposite is true. See my post above.
  • LisaWay... Gunner 2012/06/13 08:51:26 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +2
    No, look at your own conversion link. It has been long time since dollar was worth more than a Euro, or esp a British Pound. And, Oops! -- it just fell! -- at this moment 1 EUR = 1.25495 USD; 1 USD = 0.796847 EUR. So, now you need US $1.25 to get one Euro, (which adds up fast-- that means you need US $125.00 to buy something priced at 100 in Euros). And you still need US $1.55 to get one British Pound. (Costs US $155.00 to buy something priced at 100 Pounds.)

    And, one real silver DIME is worth about THREE DOLLARS. (of course US coins for circulation are not made of precious metals anymore either...not for very long time)

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