Quantcast

Two MS-13 Gang Members Convicted in South Carolina in Murder-for-Hire Scheme

Cat 2011/02/12 20:34:15




Duty. Honor. God. Constitution. Country.




Two MS-13 Gang Members Convicted in South Carolina in Murder-for-Hire Scheme












COLUMBIA, SC—United States Attorney Bill Nettles announced today that
a jury found Martin Teran and Josue Benitez guilty Thursday afternoon
in federal court in Columbia, South Carolina. Teran and Benitez were
convicted of committing murder-for-hire (Title 18, United States Code
Sections 1958 and 924(c)); illegally possessing a firearm as an illegal
alien (Title 18, United States Code Sections 922(g)(5)); and illegally
re-entering the United States having previously been deported (Title 8,
United States Code Section 1326). Teran also was convicted of
tampering with witnesses and obstructing justice (Title 18, United
States Code Sections 1503 and 1512). In total, the jury returned guilty
verdicts on all seven counts of the indictment.


Mr Nettles stated that Teran and Benitez are facing potential life
sentences as a result of their convictions. United States District
Judge Joseph Anderson of Columbia, South Carolina presided over the
trial and will impose sentences. Evidence presented during the
three-week trial from eyewitnesses, law enforcement, and cooperating
informants showed that Teran and Benitez were hired by an individual
from Honduras to kill a man living in West Columbia, SC. After planning
the murder, Teran and Benitez, along with others, drove a thousand
miles from Houston, Texas to Columbia.


After several days conducting surveillance and purchasing vehicles to
use in the murder, Teran and Benitez fulfilled their plan on November
2, 2008, by killing Jorge Ramos. Using a .380 caliber pistol, Benitez
shot Ramos twice, once in the head and once in the back, before fleeing
in the bed of a green pickup with a distinctive white door. Teran and
Benitez returned to Houston, Texas. Less than two weeks later, Houston
Police Department officers arrested Benitez in possession of a Beretta
.380 caliber pistol, which South Carolina SLED analysts were able to
confirm was the very pistol used to murder Ramos.


Teran and Benitez are illegal aliens, having both re-entered the
United States after being deported (Teran had been deported six times).
While in jail awaiting trial, agents intercepted encoded
communications from Teran that evidenced his attempt to tamper with
government witnesses and prevent them from testifying at the trial. The
trial demonstrated that Teran and Benitez were members of the gang
Mara Salvatrucha (commonly known as MS-13), which operates throughout
the United States and Central America. The case was primarily
investigated by the Lexington County Sheriff’s Department and the
Federal Bureau of Investigation with substantial assistance from SLED,
United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the Houston Police
Department.


The case was prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorneys Jay N Richardson and JD. Rowell.

department case prosecuted assistant united attorneys jay richardson jd rowelldepartment case prosecuted assistant united attorneys jay richardson jd rowelldepartment case prosecuted assistant united attorneys jay richardson jd rowell

You!
Add Photos & Videos

Top Opinion

  • ThomasSnouffer 2011/02/12 21:02:52
    ThomasSnouffer
    +15
    I reiterate; the majority of our illegal aliens come from third-world counties where violence is seen as simply another means to an end.

    They do NOT come here to "join" our country, but to import their OWN "culture" onto new soil.

    Incidences such as the one noted should NOT, of course, be tolerated, but they will also not CEASE unless the invasion of criminals into our country is STOPPED.

Sort By
  • Most Raves
  • Least Raves
  • Oldest
  • Newest
Opinions

  • BoJay 2011/02/15 10:28:01
    BoJay
    They have been flocking to our state ever since Arizona passed their immigration law, but our new Governor Nikki Haley, is planing on adopting the Arizona law. These two their luck ran out, and we have allot more from Greenville all the way to Charleston that has been trying to organize MS-13 chapters.
    You can't blame anyone, but our own US Government who sees these people as votes, and not invaders.
  • Green 2011/02/14 20:21:42
    Green
    Wow. Give me a moment and let's see if I can be shocked...

    wow shocked deadpan

    Nope, to used to criminals acting like, you know, criminals.
  • lalouisiane 2011/02/14 17:14:18
    lalouisiane
    I cannot wait to hear some neo lib say that these criminals just want a better life. And if you or someone you know has to die so they can improve their lot in life.. well.. tough.

    It's just not fair that these guys were born in some other country, we should open our doors and make them welcome.

    Right... because we don't have enough people here who are willing to do murder for hire. They are doing the jobs Americans dont' want to do!!!

    The only problem I see is the life in prison part. Why should my tax dollars pay for them forever?

    Death penalty!!!! This is what the death penalty is for!!!
  • RageFury 2011/02/13 21:10:13
    RageFury
    Time to send the Special Forces to eradicate these lowlifes imop.
    This gang would have no problems killing you or me...
    They all deserve death.
  • Sophie 2011/02/13 18:10:25 (edited)
    Sophie
    +1
    I find it interesting that the Obama administration is constantly trying to push forward a gun ban on Americans, while they do nothing to secure our borders. So then, what we have is, the criminals with all the weapons they want because there is no record of their gun purchases, but law abiding citizens that have registered weapons will have their weapons taken away.
    How are law abiding citizens supposed to protect themselves?
    I noticed that in every country that has a dictator in power, they started by taking away their citizens weapons.
  • Steford doesn't follow 2011/02/13 15:14:42
    Steford doesn't follow
    +3
    And people WANT MORE Immigration? WTF?
  • Lady Whitewolf 2011/02/13 09:52:10
  • abycinnamon BN-1 2011/02/13 06:06:58
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +1
    And what does this have to do with immigration policy? Other than absolutely nothing?
  • Cat abycinn... 2011/02/14 02:31:38
    Cat
    And what does your comment have to do with brains ? Nothing absolutely nothing.
  • abycinn... Cat 2011/02/16 01:36:42
    abycinnamon BN-1
    it indicates that you lack them.
  • Dan (Politicaly Incorrect) 2011/02/13 04:30:39
    Dan (Politicaly Incorrect)
    +3
    They must be doing the job that Americans don't want to do. I not only blame Barry for this, I also blame Bush as well.
  • Cat Dan (Po... 2011/02/14 02:31:57 (edited)
    Cat
    +1
    He was terrible on Immigration
  • Dan (Po... Cat 2011/02/15 03:25:35
    Dan (Politicaly Incorrect)
    I also didn't like his making a Security and Prosperity Partnership Treaty with Canada and Mexico without Senate approval. I consider that treason and Obama is furthering the North American Union agenda by also not securing the Border, treason also.
  • Red Branch 2011/02/13 03:51:14
    Red Branch
    +6
    MS-13 has just about destroyed the Bloods and the Crips. Not that it is a bad thing, the they make the Bloods and Crips look like choir boys.
  • autumn_1959 2011/02/13 02:03:13 (edited)
    autumn_1959
    +5
    those are faces only a mother could love gives me the willies i dont get it when is America going to wake up and say enough is enough and run these hodlums out of here and keep them out f here and get these crooked politicians out of office for good and keep them out
  • belle 2011/02/13 02:02:42
    belle
    +3
    they are so gross they could scare people to death by just looking at them
  • Captain Kirk~POTL 2011/02/13 01:42:57
    Captain Kirk~POTL
    +5
    These animals better get life without a chance at parole!!
  • ThomasS... Captain... 2011/02/13 03:22:09
    ThomasSnouffer
    +4
    I think FIRE would be much more appropriate.
  • Captain... ThomasS... 2011/02/13 03:26:27
    Captain Kirk~POTL
    +3
    That would work for me!!
  • HOMBRE 2011/02/13 01:41:31
    HOMBRE
    +1
    What a goof ball
  • rightside 2011/02/13 01:22:28
    rightside
    +4
    I'm with "USAIME"!!!
    usaime gallows
  • USAISME 2011/02/13 00:14:42
  • Lady Wh... USAISME 2011/02/13 09:50:37
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    agreed
  • Pat 2011/02/12 23:23:02
    Pat
    +5
    We need to take all those security guards off of Obama and send them to guard the border! Maybe, with luck, the same thing will happen to these two as happened to the rapist in South America. Beheading is what they deserve.
  • postmamy Pat 2011/02/12 23:23:53
  • AnnS (Anti-RP2012] 2011/02/12 23:21:55 (edited)
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    +4
    Folks, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The MS-13 gang, aka Mara Salvatrucha 13, is one of the most violently dangerous gangs in the United States - and one of the most organized. The MS-13 gang has cliques, or factions, located throughout the United States and is unique in that it retains is ties to its El Salvador counterparts. With cliques in Washington DC, Oregon, Alaska, Arkansas, Texas, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, Florida, Canada, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, and several other South American countries, the MS-13 gang is truly "international" and on the verge of becoming the first gang to be categorized as an "organized crime" entity.

    Gang members, who sport numerous tattoos on their bodies and faces, wear blue and white colors taken from the El Salvadoran flag. Their membership is estimated to total over 36,000 in the Honduras alone. Members typically range in age from 11 to 40 years old. Their progressive increase in violent activities and careless disregard for the law (threats and attacks against law enforcement officials is common), has made them the most feared gang in the United States. MS-13 criminal activities include drug smuggling, gun running, people smuggling, hits for hire, theft, drug sales, ...













































    Folks, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The MS-13 gang, aka Mara Salvatrucha 13, is one of the most violently dangerous gangs in the United States - and one of the most organized. The MS-13 gang has cliques, or factions, located throughout the United States and is unique in that it retains is ties to its El Salvador counterparts. With cliques in Washington DC, Oregon, Alaska, Arkansas, Texas, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, Florida, Canada, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, and several other South American countries, the MS-13 gang is truly "international" and on the verge of becoming the first gang to be categorized as an "organized crime" entity.

    Gang members, who sport numerous tattoos on their bodies and faces, wear blue and white colors taken from the El Salvadoran flag. Their membership is estimated to total over 36,000 in the Honduras alone. Members typically range in age from 11 to 40 years old. Their progressive increase in violent activities and careless disregard for the law (threats and attacks against law enforcement officials is common), has made them the most feared gang in the United States. MS-13 criminal activities include drug smuggling, gun running, people smuggling, hits for hire, theft, drug sales, arson, and of course, strong arming the locals. Their wide-ranging activities and elevated status has even caught the eye of the FBI who recently initiated wide-scale raids against known and suspected gang members netting hundreds of arrests across the country.

    Their penchant for violence is renowned. Members often arrive in the United States with fighting skills gained in military training and are particularly adept with machetes. In March 2004, the Maldon Institute, a Washington DC based think tank, released a report detailing the violent methods MS-13 used, including their increasingly typical (and disturbing) calling card. MS-13 often leaves behind dismembered corpses, complete with the decapitated head, at the scene of their murders. Often a grim note is attached to the body.

    In a recent Texas incident, a MS-13 gang member admitted that he had led the gang rape of a 24 year-old woman and then kicked her in the neck with such force that it killed her. During questioning, the MS-13 member further acknowledged robbing and beating a small child in Houston and to stabbing an Alexander, Texas man three times in an attempt to kill him. When asked if he though murdering someone elevated his status within the gang he replied:

    Hell Yeah. The crazier you are known to be, the more respect the gang gives you. In my gang, my street name is "psycho".

    The Growth of MS-13

    Like many gangs, MS-13 was named after "La Mara", a street in El Salvador and "13th Street" in Los Angeles. The gang originated in El Salvador and initially consisted of violent guerillas who fought in El Salvador's civil war. As the war neared its end, the gang moved operations into the nearby Honduras. In the Honduras, where membership topped 36,000, the gang rose to such power that the Honduran government instigated a crackdown on all gangs and even passed a law aimed specifically at busting up gangs and organized crime. Code named "Strong Arm", the Honduran government arrested more than 4,000 gang members in 2003, often solely because they wore tattoos or colors of known gangs. Under Honduran law, gang members can receive up to 12 years in prison if they are a leader of a local clique and up to 9 years for simply being a member of a gang.

    The recent Honduran gang law amendments enraged the MS-13 group. They carried out their revenge in 2002 in the form of a slaughter that took place on the outskirts of the city of Tegucigalpa. A car carrying two men armed with AK-47s and M-16 automatic weapons, cut off a public bus forcing it to stop. The men quickly boarded the bus and opened fire on the passengers killing 28 people including 7 small children. They left a slang-ridden message, written on a red poster board and weighted down with rocks, on the hood of the bus. When MS-13 subsequently felt excessive pressure in Honduras, they promptly migrated to Mexico.

    This pattern continued in Mexico and in early 2004, the Mexican government began a campaign to eradicate MS-13. Authorities arrested 300 gang members in response to what they called "a threat to National security". Arrestees were charged with drug trafficking and smuggling of firearms across Mexico and Central America.

    The Mara Salvatrucha gang moved into the Los Angeles area in the late 1980's as immigrants from El Salvador began arriving in the city. The early Los Angeles MS-13 gangs sought to protect El Salvadorian immigrants from the ruthless LA gangs. As with many gangs who's original intent was to protect others, the gang soon came to prey upon the Salvadorian community themselves. Once profits were recognized, Mara Salvatrucha cliques began to spread across the United States at an alarming rate. By the 1990's, MS-13's reach had spread across the country and had planted its roots deep on the East Coast. The early cliques located on the eastern coast were independent and not well organized. In the early 2000's, the gang hierarchy changed radically when leadership for these newly unified units, came from as far away as California and El Salvador. Cells continued popping up all over the country.

    In Texas and the Rio Grande area, MS-13 has become particularly profitable. U.S. and Mexican authorities acknowledge that MS-13 has been heavily involved in drug smuggling and human trafficking operations. They estimate that there are over 200 active cells (cells are groups of at least 20 members) operating in the states that border Mexico. Rumors abound concerning high-profile terrorist organizations contacting MS-13 for assistance in crossing borders in these areas.

    Membership

    Membership in MS-13 has grown rapidly. In Charlotte, North Carolina, membership is estimated to be 200 . Police have implicated MS-13 in at least 11 murders in the Charlotte area in 2000 alone. In northern Virginia and southern Maryland, around the Washington DC area, local authorities estimate MS-13 membership to be between 5,000 and 6,000 members - by far the largest gang in the area. In July of 2003, the Washington DC area encountered three murders attributed to MS-13. The first was the murder of a federal informant. The second was the shooting death of a 17 year old boy. The third was the death of a 16 year old boy who had both of his hands completely chopped off.

    Members is MS-13 cells are often initiated by being "jumped in". In one Washington DC event, witnessed by a reporter, the inductee was an 11-year old boy - he sought membership in MS-13 so they would protect him from bullies in his neighborhood. The rights of passage included placing the boy in a circle of gang members. The five strongest members stepped inside the circle with the 11-year old boy. As members began counting slowly to 13, the boy was beaten and kicked repeatedly until he reached the point of unconsciousness. If he had been a girl, the rights of passage would have included being gang raped by six gang members.

    While most gangs offer simple initiation rights, such as being "jumped in", where you are beaten or punched for several minutes in order to prove your worth, for many MS-13 cells, initiations are a little more stringent. In these cells, in order to join MS-13 you must first commit a violent act against someone else - either a beating, a rape, or a murder.

    The MS-13 tell-tale body markings will typically include numerous body and facial tattoos containing the texts "MS", "13", or "18". Various symbols are used including dice, crossbones, or daggers. Often the symbols signify the members area of specialization. For instance, if a member has a tattoo of a grenade on his back it means that particular person specializes in explosives.

    One of the defining factors of MS-13 is their absolute intolerance for anyone who informs the police of their activities. Court papers in Nassau County detail recorded telephone conversations where a MS-13 member bragged how he had put a stop to a informant - "I put one in the chest and three in the head."

    Once a member is brought in to the gang, they are in for life. They cannot act without the boss's consent - they cannot kill without reason, cannot talk to the police, cannot skip gang meetings, nor can they leave the gang. MS-13 has no tolerance for gang members who drop out. In March of 2004, 16-year old Edgar Guzman, was brought before the US Bureau of Immigration and Customers Enforcement in Colorado. He had entered the United States illegally, traveling from Guatemala on foot. In Guatemala he had been a member of the MS-13 gang. His sole reason for leaving his native country was to escape the gang life, live with his Aunt in Georgia, and begin school. He begged authorities not to deport him

    If I had stayed in Guatemala, members of the Salvatrucha gang would have killed me. I've seen them hit people with baseball bats and shoot them. I know they kill people. I know that if I go back to Guatemala they will torture me. They will kill me if I go back to Guatemala. They will kill me because I left the gang.

    On March 10, 2004, Edgar was released from jail and deported. On March 20, 2004, 10 days after he was deported, Edgar was found dead from multiple gunshot wounds. He had hidden in his home for 10 days and eventually left the confines of his house when his grandmother had unexpectedly died. He barely made it 5 blocks from his home before members found him and delivered the punishment that was deemed appropriate for his deserting the gang. Death is almost always the only means of escaping the clutches of MS-13.

    One of the reasons for MS-13's success is their flexibility. When they enter a new area where they are not known, they will wear their colors in a flashy display in order to promote intimidation. Once the authorities catch wind of their presence, they will change their colors, carry their bandanas in their pocket, and change their markings to say, 76 or 67 (which total up to 13).

    Flexible, organized, and highly violent - Mara Salvatrucha 13 has carved a niche in our society and dug in their heels, refusing to back down even from high profile authorities such as the Federal Police.

    References

    http://www.altereddimensions....

    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stori...
    (more)
  • ThomasS... AnnS (A... 2011/02/13 03:24:36
    ThomasSnouffer
    +3
    You missed Idaho, AnnS. We have the filthy little bastards over in Boise. "Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!"
  • AnnS (A... ThomasS... 2011/02/13 11:43:36
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    +3
    I know, the article may need updating; seems like these gangs get more spread out all the time. And this is just one gang and I'm sure there are rival gangs; some with muslims connections in particular with the Nation of Islam. An interesting connection of a black gang murder-whites call the "Death Angels" (NOI) (has been sanitized) was the "Zebra Killings" in the 1970s in CA.
  • ThomasS... AnnS (A... 2011/02/13 13:48:38
    ThomasSnouffer
    +3
    I remember them well!
  • AnnS (A... ThomasS... 2011/02/13 14:30:18 (edited)
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    +3
    Glad someone else out there does, seems like all of members were not caught and there were other questionable murders. In more recent times was the shooter, Clemmons, who gunned those 4 police officers Seattle-Tacoma had converted to Islam in an Arkansas jail and was associated with the Death Angels. Their website mocked and praised the murders. The DC Snipers were also NOI members. (this would be Louis Farrakahan's NOI) you know friends of the family obama and frequent guest of obama's J. Wright "mosque".

    RIP

    friends family obama frequent guest obamas wright mosque rip
  • ThomasS... AnnS (A... 2011/02/13 15:36:41
    ThomasSnouffer
    What I have always been completely unable to understand (admittedly, psychology has NEVER been my strong point!) is how normally rational people can "fall into" the ethnicity "guilt" trap.

    My entire life I have been indifferent to peoples' skin color OR country of origin. NOT because I'm "....SUCH a nice guy!..." but simply because I don't feel those to facets of a person's life to be especially germane to almost ANY of that person's actions. If I like or DISlike someone, that feeling is based on my personal opinion of that person's BEVAVIOR. This is because the person's behavior IS something they have--or at least SHOULD have--control over. I have always tried to live my life logically, and racism or bigotry have never seemed to be logical, to me.

    For THAT reason, I am constantly amazed (confused?) by people who perceive it as "rational" to USE those very same points to mitigate or outright EXCUSE another person's actions. The fact that Islam has seen it is possible to receive "consideration" by using the well-known and well-publicized American tolerance for religion by referencing EVERY ACTION of their membership AS a religious "right", is simply bizarre. Actually, their demands for "religious tolerance" are not actually bizarre, but that they can ACHIEVE so much WITH th...





    What I have always been completely unable to understand (admittedly, psychology has NEVER been my strong point!) is how normally rational people can "fall into" the ethnicity "guilt" trap.

    My entire life I have been indifferent to peoples' skin color OR country of origin. NOT because I'm "....SUCH a nice guy!..." but simply because I don't feel those to facets of a person's life to be especially germane to almost ANY of that person's actions. If I like or DISlike someone, that feeling is based on my personal opinion of that person's BEVAVIOR. This is because the person's behavior IS something they have--or at least SHOULD have--control over. I have always tried to live my life logically, and racism or bigotry have never seemed to be logical, to me.

    For THAT reason, I am constantly amazed (confused?) by people who perceive it as "rational" to USE those very same points to mitigate or outright EXCUSE another person's actions. The fact that Islam has seen it is possible to receive "consideration" by using the well-known and well-publicized American tolerance for religion by referencing EVERY ACTION of their membership AS a religious "right", is simply bizarre. Actually, their demands for "religious tolerance" are not actually bizarre, but that they can ACHIEVE so much WITH those demands. The fact that they are able to USE this as some all-encompassing "free-ride" and have rational, intelligent Americans BUY INTO IT is what I cannot GRASP!

    For the MOST part, I give the American people credit for being fairly well-educated AND having a fair amount of common sense. For THIS reason, I am AMAZED that they can be manipulated SO easily by a group of people "threatening" to assign some meaningless pejorative to them. It bothers me not in the SLIGHTEST to have someone call me a bigot, racist, "Islamphobe", etc., because I am VERY self-confident regarding my opinions. NOT because I feel I am "better than most", or even "average", just because I have specific, mostly LOGICAL, reasons for how I feel about people. No one can insult me unless I allow that insult to make me doubt my own convictions, and the reason FOR those convictions.

    The main one of those is that a group simply professing itself as something it is NOT lends no validity whatsoever TO that group, in my eyes. Calling an organization of people who wish to be exempt from enacted laws a "religion" carries no "weight" whatsoever with me. Saying you HAD to become a pack of animals (referencing MS-13) to "protect" your people carries even LESS.

    Unfortunately, I have come to feel that, by constant manipulation of our citizens, I am no longer in the plurality. People such as you make me feel there may STILL be a chance to have something for me to leave--of this nation--to my grandsons. Thanks!
    (more)
  • AnnS (A... ThomasS... 2011/02/13 16:18:53
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    "People such as you make me feel there may STILL be a chance to have something for me to leave--of this nation--to my grandsons."

    What a wonderful compliment and I pray that when the time comes that I may have to step out from behind my PC and just sharing information, I could be just as brave/passionate about how I feel when confronted face to face with our enemies.

    I guess (psychology has NEVER been my strong point) me either; just my 2 cents is that people like the lefties will just go with what they perceive as the strongest entity. Just like when we were in school, kids sided with the bullies so they wouldn't be the bully's target. There may be a few very misinformed ideologist in their mists, but I think for the most part it is based on fear/cowardliness. We are probably dealing with a lot of "red diaber" babies in this generation who have been brainwashed into this bleeding heart notion that the more we give (even somebody else' money) will bring about some sort of utopian paradise. (Sort of like Israel/Palestinian land for peace process; we all know how that's working out).The muslim tribal leaders were the one that started the black slave trade in Africa, yet the most recruited members and converts to Islam in America are young black males. Yet they demand reparat...



    "People such as you make me feel there may STILL be a chance to have something for me to leave--of this nation--to my grandsons."

    What a wonderful compliment and I pray that when the time comes that I may have to step out from behind my PC and just sharing information, I could be just as brave/passionate about how I feel when confronted face to face with our enemies.

    I guess (psychology has NEVER been my strong point) me either; just my 2 cents is that people like the lefties will just go with what they perceive as the strongest entity. Just like when we were in school, kids sided with the bullies so they wouldn't be the bully's target. There may be a few very misinformed ideologist in their mists, but I think for the most part it is based on fear/cowardliness. We are probably dealing with a lot of "red diaber" babies in this generation who have been brainwashed into this bleeding heart notion that the more we give (even somebody else' money) will bring about some sort of utopian paradise. (Sort of like Israel/Palestinian land for peace process; we all know how that's working out).The muslim tribal leaders were the one that started the black slave trade in Africa, yet the most recruited members and converts to Islam in America are young black males. Yet they demand reparation from this generation of American taxpayers who had absolutly nothing to do with slavery and as my ancestors died and were wounded in the Civil War fighting with the north.

    If we think about it why would a few millions of Jews be such a threat to 1.5+ billion muslims or even 100+ million Christians they want to kill?

    But a better question, why was one lone Man, who claimed to be be God and King of Jews be such a dangerous threat to the whole Roman Empire that they had to crucify him on a cross?
    (more)
  • ThomasS... AnnS (A... 2011/02/13 16:40:14
    ThomasSnouffer
    "Just like when we were in school, kids sided with the bullies so they wouldn't be the bully's target." What a BRILLIANT metaphor!!!
  • AnnS (A... ThomasS... 2011/02/13 14:55:28
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    +2
    Why I am suspicious; obama had 60 million dollars going for tatoo removal in the last stimulus package. Think the Repubs had it removed. And if the amnesty bill gets passed this would include all gang members who give up their memberships (cough, yeah right)
  • ThomasS... AnnS (A... 2011/02/13 15:39:53
    ThomasSnouffer
    If my country is EVER stupid enough to pass ANOTHER amnesty package, I can honestly say I hope I will be dead.
  • AnnS (A... ThomasS... 2011/02/13 17:04:36
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    +1
    I'm not sure it is so stupid as it is evil; and I want your vote and help in bringing down America.

    If that happens, at what point do they (progressives) think that the "immigrants" will get tired of being working slaves to a third world banana republic government just like the one they left.
  • ThomasS... AnnS (A... 2011/02/13 17:12:47
    ThomasSnouffer
    "If that happens, at what point do they (progressives) think that the "immigrants" will get tired of being working slaves to a third world banana republic government just like the one they left?"

    When the NEW third-world banana republic's taxpayer-supported "perks" dry up.
  • TruBluTopaz 2011/02/12 23:21:02
    TruBluTopaz
    +3
    What a freakshow. I am "sure" there were here legally. Yeah.....right.
  • postmamy TruBluT... 2011/02/12 23:24:05
  • Annette 2011/02/12 23:00:54
    Annette
    +7
    As I said on another question on here - 0vomit is a traitor and needs to be throttled and brought up on charges at the earliest possible time - we are already almost 25 mos. late!

See Votes by State

The map above displays the winning answer by region.

News & Politics

2014/09/30 22:24:09

Hot Questions on SodaHead
More Hot Questions

More Community More Originals