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Top British doctor's chilling claim: The National Health Service kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year. Is this going to happen in a future America,under Obamacare?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/21 16:17:35
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  • Professor says doctors use 'death pathway' to euthenasia of the elderly

  • Treatment on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours

  • Around 29 per cent of patients that die in hospital are on controversial 'care pathway'

  • Pensioner admitted to hospital given treatment by doctor on weekend shift


  • NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.

    Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
    He claimed there was often a lack of clear evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway, a method of looking after terminally ill patients that is used in hospitals across the country.
    It is designed to come into force when doctors believe it is impossible for a patient to recover and death is imminent.

    It can include withdrawal of treatment – including the provision of water and nourishment by tube – and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours.
    There are around 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in hospital or under NHS care. Around 29 per cent – 130,000 – are of patients who were on the LCP.
    Professor Pullicino claimed that far too often elderly patients who could live longer are placed on the LCP and it had now become an ‘assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway’.

    He cited ‘pressure on beds and difficulty with nursing confused or difficult-to-manage elderly patients’ as factors.
    Professor Pullicino revealed he had personally intervened to take a patient off the LCP who went on to be successfully treated.

    He said this showed that claims they had hours or days left are ‘palpably false’.
    In the example he revealed a 71-year-old who was admitted to hospital suffering from pneumonia and epilepsy was put on the LCP by a covering doctor on a weekend shift.

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    • Farnsworth 2012/06/21 16:26:03
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      Farnsworth
      +14
      Obamacare dehumanizes "we the people" into a line item on a budget.

      Once we out live our ability to pay taxes, we can be "cut"

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    • Child of light 2012/06/22 00:44:50
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      Child of light
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      If Obamacare isn't repealed before it takes full effect, we will all receive the same fabulous healthcare that has made nations like Cuba bankrupt. It is not the government's job to make sure that people are insured. That's the individual's own responsibility.
    • kobidobidog 2012/06/22 00:27:53
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      kobidobidog
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      Because the humans that put chemicals into you humans said to take care of patients don't care as much as you think. Don't have money, and they will think less of you being old without money,and they will not caring if you are dead. For a long time a substance in thermometers was put in shots for human, and non human animal shots. Also a substance an embalmer would use to put in cadavers, formaldehyde.
    • Gooky 2012/06/22 00:25:34
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      Gooky
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      We need an "Angie's list",for people to voice their experiencies with doctors,nurses & hospital care,for our elderly...the results would be staggering.
    • words to live by 2012/06/22 00:12:53 (edited)
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      words to live by
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      If you're unable to pay for your health care they will let you die, or worse yet, kiil you!
    • dallas words t... 2012/06/22 08:36:52 (edited)
    • Franklin dallas 2012/06/22 14:29:10
      Franklin
      +3
      god your such a tard! its way to early to deal with your BS so down rave for spam as your cut-pasting this lie over and over
    • words t... dallas 2012/06/22 18:24:11
    • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/22 00:07:06
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
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      Because that's the way the left wing wants things done! They know that Social Security will go bankrupt. The only way they know to save it is to kill off all the old people.

      Who will never vote for them anyway, once they know what they are about.
    • dallas Temlako... 2012/06/22 08:45:58
    • Franklin dallas 2012/06/22 14:30:50
      Franklin
      +2
      Republicans created state budgets ? so in liberal world money grows on trees and liberals spending has no limits .....as always your an idiot!
    • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/06/21 23:53:06
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      Phyl *In God i Trust*
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      I hope it never gets that far no  obama care
    • ed 2012/06/21 23:36:18
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      ed
      +6
      I can see it happening but at a larger scale we can triple the 130,000 in this country .
    • Stevern... ed 2012/06/21 23:38:15
      Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
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      Especially with an ageing "Baby Boom" generation moving into the senior years!
    • Mog of War 2012/06/21 23:04:38
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      The insurance companies already have "death panels." As it is, the vast majority of elderly being "killed" by the national health service are cases where their equivalents in America live artificially prolonged lives in an utterly vegetative state of decay... All because the insurance companies "death panels" will keep them alive so long as it's profitable to do so, and the hospital's glad to milk the elderly cash cow.
    • Franklin Mog of War 2012/06/22 14:33:23
      Franklin
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      did you intend for me not to notice that your all for murdering elderly people ? LOL@libtardation
    • Mog of War Franklin 2012/06/27 19:17:45
      Mog of War
      There's a huge difference between euthanasia, and simply letting go of someone who's time has come. We have much technology put to the purpose of keeping corpses legally alive so that they can transform the fortunes they intended to leave their children into massive debts. Quite frankly, if the only reasonable expectation is leaving in a hearse, then there is no point in prolonging a person's time in this world. The illness always outruns the new cure. Especially since our pharmaceutical industry has long decided that a treatment that doesn't end the condition is far more profitable anyways.
    • lee 2012/06/21 22:52:49
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      +1
      BAT BOY!

      half boy, half bat...

      found to be living in conservatives basement.
    • Stevern... lee 2012/06/21 23:12:36
      Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
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      Your comment on this serious subject is ridiculous.I thought you would have something more intelligent to say!

      comment subject ridiculous intelligent
    • lee Stevern... 2012/06/21 23:22:45
      lee
      +1
      after you.
    • Stevern... lee 2012/06/21 23:24:13
      Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
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      You're really starting to pi$$ me off!
    • lee Stevern... 2012/06/21 23:46:55
      lee
      +2
      you repeat tabliod news as REAL news... but you get mad at ME for mocking you?

      that's rich.
    • Stevern... lee 2012/06/21 23:53:47
      Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
      +4
      You don't know when to "cool it" troll.Don't say I didn't warn you!

      bye bye gifs
    • ed Stevern... 2012/06/21 23:49:48
      ed
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      he's off his meds again fukitol
    • Stevern... ed 2012/06/21 23:59:40
      Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
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      He's gone now!
    • Franklin lee 2012/06/22 14:35:39
      Franklin
      +1
      did holder gate and the FACTS about Obama death boards break your brain ? Now all you can do is post foolishness to support your skin-job in the upcoming election
    • Franklin lee 2012/06/22 14:34:29
      Franklin
      +1
      yes a conservative owns the home but its your room in the basement they found Bat Boy in ...
    • doofiegirl BTO-t- BCRA-F ~... 2012/06/21 22:04:25
      I can see this happening in America too because...
      doofiegirl  BTO-t- BCRA-F ~PWCM~
      +8
      It's in the cards! Their ace will come up if the Court doesn't topple Odimwitcare!
    • mobilsq 2012/06/21 22:02:05
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      mobilsq
      It should be done on a large scale for certain patients. Why are you going to keep a bed ridden elderly person alive for a year or more with no quality of life and no one who cares enough about them to take care of them themselves.
    • words t... mobilsq 2012/06/21 23:43:10
      words to live by
      +2
      They not only want to kill older people, this will include young children too! All life is precious!
    • mobilsq words t... 2012/06/21 23:46:07
      mobilsq
      says who
    • words t... mobilsq 2012/06/22 00:19:51
      words to live by
      +3
      Says me! oh yeah you wanna piece of dis
    • ed mobilsq 2012/06/21 23:46:54
      ed
      +4
      there are a lot of children bed ridden you going to kill off everyone that is bed ridden?
    • mobilsq ed 2012/06/21 23:53:59
      mobilsq
      not if they can use their minds or some technology allows them to move around in a wheel chair and be a productive member of society. It depends on the prognosis. This is all of course hypothetical at this point. But yes I suppose I believe a few mercy killings are in order. You make it seem as if they are going to go haphazardly murdering children.
    • ed mobilsq 2012/06/21 23:57:36
      ed
      +4
      your comment suggested that
    • Bozette mobilsq 2012/06/22 00:26:26
      Bozette
      +4
      So...being a "productive member of society" is your benchmark? Regardless of whether they had previously been so or not?

      Are you ready, willing and able to have that mercy killing be someone you love?
    • Purple ... mobilsq 2012/06/22 01:10:59
      Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
      +2
      '...and be a productive member of society...' Interesting that this is one of your criteria. So an invalid is expendible in your mind?
    • mobilsq Purple ... 2012/06/22 01:13:44
      mobilsq
      yeah pretty much unless they meet my criteria above then whats the point. and yes I would be willing to have my loved one taken out she told me she would prefer it.
    • Purple ... mobilsq 2012/06/22 01:17:06
      Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
      +2
      You are not judge, jury and executioner. That is not your place, nor is it anyone else's when it comes to who lives and who dies.
    • mobilsq Purple ... 2012/06/22 01:21:24
      mobilsq
      Never said I was I'm saying hypothetically that if a someone is on their way out what exactly is the point of keeping them artificially alive for years at tax payers expense.
    • Purple ... mobilsq 2012/06/22 01:42:46
      Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
      +1
      Then who makes these decisions?

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