Top British doctor's chilling claim: The National Health Service kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year. Is this going to happen in a future America,under Obamacare?

I'm not so sure it isn't already happening here.

I was recently in the ICU with my Ma after routine surgery and they couldn't get her BP up or stabilized. One doc ordered two units of blood, someone else - I don't know who - decided to do one and check her blood again. It was still low. Much, much later her surgeon came in and ordered the second unit be given. After they left the room I heard the nurse ask him if she should do it off the original order or if he wanted to write his own...he said, "I don't care how you do it...just get it done!" Later, after her BP had finally stabilized, if not come up enough, they gave her medication to lower her BP. Shortly thereafter her BP went down to 72/20 and an alarm went off. The nurse shut off the alarm without ever checking on her. This happened twice. Needless to say, the doc and I were talking at 11 PM that night.

When my husband, who had serious and life-threatening illness was sick for a year and a half, and despite my pleas, the docs refused to say he couldn't work until several weeks after he could no longer walk and was losing the use of his hands, they'd told him he would be "all better in 6-12 months"...after researching his supposed illness I went in the next day and corrected their fallacies...fortunately the head doc listened. But it ultimately only meant he was declared disabled three weeks before he died, though they had all the signs and information for a year and a half.

I remember when my Dad was in the hospital, he reacted badly to a particular drug and the doc put a note on his chart not to give it to him under any circumstances. The nurses then told my Ma they would give it to him if he got agitated, despite the doc's orders and the fact it had the opposite effect on him as it did on others, because it made their job "easier".

I can't say that I trust the medical profession today, though I do know there to be many, many good people in it. The ones who aren't are giving all a bad name.

In light of 0bamacare and this report, as well as my own experiences, I have to wonder how much is incompetence, how much is simply a mistake and how much is actually planned.

Not only can I see this happening in America, it is exactly what Obamacare is designed to do if it stands! No one over the age of 75 will get any significant procedure because regional boards will be doing a "cost-benefit analysis", measuring the cost of the procedure against what the actuarial tables say the patient has left in years of life and then deciding whether or not he/she gets the treatment.

Statistically, approximately 1/2 of the average person's lifetime medical expenses are incurred during their final year of life. Obamacare is designed to end our lives one year early and avoid those costs. Unfortunately, due to government inefficiency, even with this drastic means of cost-cutting, medical costs will still soar and treatment will be drastically worse than it is now.

The mantra from the liberals that the U.S. spends the most on health care and has the worst, or at least a poor, level of medical care is an outright lie. First, it is based upon mortality tables which count all causes of death, not just death due to illness. Certain cities in the U.S., Obama's hometown of Chicago for example, and Washington, D.C., have horrendous murder rates. Americans also travel much greater distances over highways and the U.S. has far more traffic deaths per capita than the European nations - many of which are no larger than a small U.S. state.

When survival rates for heart attacks and cancer are taken into account, the U.S. is at the top of the list. Infant mortality is another statistic that is used to "prove" that the U.S. doesn't have good health care. The problem here is that they are comparing apples to oranges. In the U.S. all infant deaths, even those that are three months premature, are counted. Premature births aren't counted by other countries in their statistics, and some don't even start counting infant deaths until they make it past 2 months! When all things are equal, the U.S. is at the top of the list on infant mortality as well as on cancer and heart attack survival rates.

I think that Americans need to grow up and start have serious discussions about end of life decisions. None of us live forever. We are going to die.

I know that no one wants to think about that but if we don't make the decisions now, someone else will be making the decisions for us. And the decisions will be what THEY want not what WE want.

If someone is in agony from cancer or some other horrible disease and there is no hope for recovery, why do we insist on keeping them alive and suffering for extended periods of time just because we can?

If someone is in their late 80's or 90's or older and is sick beyond our ability to make them well and functioning human beings again, why should we demand that they be kept alive and in pain or in a coma or with no clue as to where they are, who they are or who we are?

This isn't just a matter of money and resources. If someone is horribly ill and we CAN cure them and give them many more years of happiness in life, then we should. No question. But when they are so ill with an incurable condition, and in pain, why do we think that keeping them alive to suffer more is the right thing to do? I don't get it. Are we really keeping them alive for them or for us, the ones who are left behind?

My husband and I have had this discussion and I've told him that if I become ill or am in an accident and can no longer function and recovery is not in the picture, I don't want to be kept alive with tubes and pumps, etc. So, his instructions are to let me go, pull the plug. My husband on the other hand wants to be kept alive no matter what and I will see that his wishes are respected.

We all need to have this talk people. It's the compassionate and right thing to do.

I'm not sure where you got that message from what I said. I don't believe the government is advocating "Death Panels" in any way, shape or form nor should they.

All I am saying is that sometimes, extraordinary measures may not be the way to go when someone has a terminal illness that is no longer responding to conventional medical care. At that point, hospice care would be appropriate. It keeps the patient comfortable with the use of whatever kind of pain killers they need and it allows the family some time for closure.

The issue of euthanasia is totally different. If someone has been presented with a fatal diagnosis, I think that as the disease progresses to the point of being unbearable, the patient should have the option of doing the humane thing which would be some form of euthanasia. In other words, doctors should be able to give the patient a pill which causes the person to go to sleep and then drift off to death. I would rather do that than be in agony myself or worse, have to watch a loved one suffer horribly until they die.

People who believe it is god's will that they suffer indescribable pain before dying would still have the option of suffering that pain if they want to. But don't impose that kind of horrible death on me or anyone else. If someone wants something that would end the pain, they should be able to get it and die peacefully with their family around them.

Right now, we are more merciful to our pets than we are to our family members.