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Top British doctor's chilling claim: The National Health Service kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year. Is this going to happen in a future America,under Obamacare?
Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
2012/06/21 16:17:35
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NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
He claimed there was often a lack of clear evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway, a method of looking after terminally ill patients that is used in hospitals across the country.
It is designed to come into force when doctors believe it is impossible for a patient to recover and death is imminent.
It can include withdrawal of treatment – including the provision of water and nourishment by tube – and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours.
It can include withdrawal of treatment – including the provision of water and nourishment by tube – and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours.
There are around 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in hospital or under NHS care. Around 29 per cent – 130,000 – are of patients who were on the LCP.
Professor Pullicino claimed that far too often elderly patients who could live longer are placed on the LCP and it had now become an ‘assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway’.
He cited ‘pressure on beds and difficulty with nursing confused or difficult-to-manage elderly patients’ as factors.
He cited ‘pressure on beds and difficulty with nursing confused or difficult-to-manage elderly patients’ as factors.
Professor Pullicino revealed he had personally intervened to take a patient off the LCP who went on to be successfully treated.
He said this showed that claims they had hours or days left are ‘palpably false’.
He said this showed that claims they had hours or days left are ‘palpably false’.
In the example he revealed a 71-year-old who was admitted to hospital suffering from pneumonia and epilepsy was put on the LCP by a covering doctor on a weekend shift.
Read More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161869/To...
Top Opinion
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Farnsworth 2012/06/21 16:26:03
WE as a country are not even following the British model of this,.. so why is this in anyway indicative of our health care plan?
In effect, what has really happened here is a great swindle: Obama got the middle class to support his legislation by promising it was NOT a tax, and by promising it would LOWER health insurance costs. In reality, however, it RAISES health insurance costs, it IS a tax, and the majority of that tax burden falls squarely on the very same middle-class voters who put Obama into office under false pretenses. That's a swindle, by any definition.
Not surprisingly, this realization doesn't sit well with many middle class taxpayers. While the original emotional appeal of Obamacare was nicely packaged and seductively marketed to the masses, the sobering, post-honeymoon reality slaps us all in the face like a wet fish: Smack! This thing is another huge tax increase on the working class! And on top of that, it gives the IRS scary new powers to pry into our private finances. How did you all think compliance with Obamacare was going to be enforced, anyway? It's going to empower the IRS with even more agents!
I am considered an Old Age Pensioner.During the last 2 years I have been diagnosed and treated for Breast Cancer and severe Psoriasis. Our N.H.S. has given me all that my illnesses required and at a very speedy rate. My Cancer was diagnosed and operated on in less than a month. My Psoriasis was treated with Phototherapy 3 times a week for 13 weeeks and is still being looked after by the excellent N.H.S.
Nowhere in the world can such wonderful treatment be given when it is needed most totally free of charge. We do not need medical insurance to get the immediate care our medical conditions require!
I am aware for quite some time that in Western Europe elderly are being persuaded to accept euthanasia so as not be a burden on the relatives and society at large. Simply put, the very people who worked hard to create the prosperity in their countries are expected to just roll over and die.
I am also aware that often euthanasia, often without consent, or simply refusal to do anything to save the life of an elderly patient is the way the government saves the money.
That's the reasoning behind obamacare.
People wake up and get educated!!!
IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT AS OUR NATION'S PRESIDENT???
I SAID THIS BACK IN 2008 AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN;
HE'S NO GOOD FOR AMERICA!!!
In effect, what has really happened here is a great swindle: Obama got the middle class to support his legislation by promising it was NOT a tax, and by promising it would LOWER health insurance costs. In reality, however, it RAISES health insurance costs, it IS a tax, and the majority of that tax burden falls squarely on the very same middle-class voters who put Obama into office under false pretenses. That's a swindle, by any definition.
Not surprisingly, this realization doesn't sit well with many middle class taxpayers. While the original emotional appeal of Obamacare was nicely packaged and seductively marketed to the masses, the sobering, post-honeymoon reality slaps us all in the face like a wet fish: Smack! This thing is another huge tax increase on the working class! And on top of that, it gives the IRS scary new powers to pry into our private finances. How did you all think compliance with Obamacare was going to be enforced, anyway? It's going to empower the IRS with even more agents!
However, this should have NOT been a surprise to anyone in my opinion.
This man was shady from the beginning; his language from his first campaign was too good to be true.
It was and is the responsibility of those that voted to educate themselves on this man’s actions, which wasn’t much there to begin with.
We as individuals are responsible for our own actions and although I agree even for me romney is a gamble we must be willing to take what we dish out, that’s why I said that one MUST educated themselves before voting.
I personally do NOT trust romney; he blows whichever way the wind blows.
Nevertheless, obama is just out to destroy the Middle Class whether he’s aware of it or not, but one MUST educated themselves and live with the choices one has made.
Lastly, I was very aware that this “free or affordable” healthcare was nothing more than a trap from the onset.
Personally, I wish there were 'euthanasia emporiums' where you could just go in and 'check out!'
Who decides when to euthanize you...soon it will not be your choice under Obamacare..it's in there!
I prefer to make that decision myself, not government decree...thankyouverymuch!
Have a nice day!
You are too naive!
It will no longer be your choice whether your mother lives or dies....the Govt. will decide
what is in the State's best interest, and if she is costing them too much money!
It's always the bottom dollar...don't you get it! They ration care and the seriously ill are expendable whether young or old, because they cost money!!
(BTW - I lived in France as well, at Laon, it sucked. I travel to Ukraine, Bulgaria and Russia frequently. Of the 3, Bulgaria is by far the best and it's no great shakes. I have dealings with the health care system in all 3. They're scarey).
On my last trip to Ukraine I saw a man with a huge goiter on his neck (looked like a second head), when's the last time anyone saw that here in America? Elective surgeries (non-emergency, non-life threatening, quality of life improving like hernia repairs, etc.) can take years to get to.
I have a number of stories I can relate that I have witnessed that concern children with disabilities in state custody but the Progressives would call me a liar because it doesn't fit in with their vision of utopia.
So euthanasia isn't for everyone, but it IS the answer for some of us. My doctor promised me that I would live only as long as I want. Don't take that away from me.
Why do you think we want you or the government to make decisions for the rest of us depending on how much money their care would cost??
Obamacare IS going to make decisions for YOU and YOU ARE going to pay for it.
knock us off via their plan.