To wake up the obama supporters, we have to go over the fiscal cliff, this is one way to make the obama supporters feel the pain everyone else is

It seems that most in Washington from both sides of the aisle need lessons in economics as it will take real tax reform and serious spending cuts that no one really wants to discuss. I don't think they can figure out how to take care of their special interest cronies financially and do what needs to be done to fix America's problems.

LOL.... I love all the clowns on this page who act like this is all Obama and the Democrats fault.... you guys are hilarious. Just as foolish as the clowns who blamed everything on Bush

I am not sure that will work. The liberal will blindly blame it on the Conservatives. Keep in mind the mentality of the people we are talking about. Look at how they treat facts when they are presented to them. Look how abusive some of them get when you try to reason with them. I have only found a few here that you can reason with. The best that I have gotten is we agree to disagree with each other. How can you deal with someone when you ask them how do you like Obama selection of Ryan Paul as a running mate and they tell you they think he was a good choice.

Yes there are some Conservatives that do not accept things that are facts as well. I know that you and I do not agree o many things. Mostly on matters of Philosophy and what is best for people.

Thank You, it is our common love for the Lord that makes us friends.

Yes!

We have to be careful with the fiscal cliff as Balmy will use it to his advantage to blame the Republicans. I, personally, want the mess to land in his lap. Then we can have an investigation, much like the Benghazi TERRORIST attack which is still being studied. Appparently the hang up, as I see it, is the libs' incessant tax and spend with no intention of cutting spending. Historically it has been noted that you cannot spend your way out of a recession. This is their baby and they have yet to realize the consequence. Then there is always the possibility that they don't care. Many of them hate America and would love to see our nation reduced to a third world level.

You and people like are the reason this country is so fu*ked up. First those 47% Romney was speaking about you assume are all democrats. With your depleted mental capacity you fail to realize just as many of those 47% were republicans. You assume all poor people are democrats that's your mistake. As many republicans are poor as democrats are poor. Secondly your parties refusal to fairly tax the wealthy who by the way have been screwing the middle class for many decades now is the main problem we have. Last year Obama offered Boehner and the republicans $1 in tax revenues increases for every $10 in spending cuts and you brainiacs turned it down because they figured Romney would win the election and they'd get more tax cuts. Grover your watcher of the Greedy Gate said no. Now again you whine. Maybe we should go over the cliff. It won't hurt the poor anymore they are alreay hurting but guys like Norquist, Hannity, Beck, Romney and Limbaugh will all see their tax rates go back up to 39.6% the estate tax will go to 45% and the deduction will go back down again.. I can just hear that fat windbag now crying all over his microphone.......So yes let the Tea Party take us over the cliff it'll only hurt all wage earning and investing people which includes many of them and that's the other 53%. Then who will they blame? Not themselves because they aren't smart enough to realize it was they who screwed themselves.

No it is people like you that support obama and the progressives as too why the country is so screwed up. You idiots that do not even know what is going on, only that you want your free stuff and have the government take from the producers, well screw you, time you are made to pay. And when we go over the cliff, it will be obama and the democrats fault, so stop with your lies, they are not working

YEPPER

You know what your Fox Noise talking points are growing really old and stale. Try thinking for yourself if you even have the ability to do so. You sound like the ideologue you are. All mouth and no facts.

Your legs are tingling again.

Only because I have nerve damage in them.

Sorry to hear that, thought maybe your reciting of MSNBC talking points were almost orgasmic.

No it's from 30 years of heavy lifting at work 6 and 7 days a week. We lazy liberals.

I tend to think of liberals that work for a living more as confused rather than lazy.

I think he is on his hands and knees in front of obama

No it is people like you that support obama and the progressives as too why the country is so screwed up. You idiots that do not even know what is going on, only that you want your free stuff and have the government take from the producers, well screw you, time you are made to pay. And when we go over the cliff, it will be obama and the democrats fault, so stop with your lies, they are not working

Tell me what free stuff do we want? I'll be it's the same free stuff conservatives get and have been getting forever.

No it is people like you that support obama and the progressives as too why the country is so screwed up. You idiots that do not even know what is going on, only that you want your free stuff and have the government take from the producers, well screw you, time you are made to pay. And when we go over the cliff, it will be obama and the democrats fault, so stop with your lies, they are not working

Again what free stuff are you squaking about? Your second grade level responses are very childish so how about giving a mature response for once if you're able to.

Well geeze half of all southern rednecks would have to go without their booze and cigarettes if welfare was cut out. You think only democrats recieve welfare. Funny. I guess the rich who's tax rate is 35% but they end up paying 15% isn't entitlements? Think again. They are getting a hell of alot more per person than someone getting welfare. They the rich are getting millions each where a poor person gets about $8,000. Corporations pay an average of around 9% tax yet the corporate rate is 35%. They are getting subsidies in the billions in some cases. Sorry Red but there is two sides to every subsidy coin. Entitlements are given to both the poor and the wealthy they are just called different things and come in different forms. The problem with me is, one actually needs them to survive while the other doesn't.

You right wingers are so delusional its funny to see you act out. Guess what... the deficit was growing long before Obama stepped in the oval office or have you buffoons forgot Bush started two wars that cost TRILLIONS? Have you forgot it was BUSH that gave the rich a 10% tax cut that's being running for over 10 years, there's another TRILLION. And it was Bush that caused the recession by refusing to regulate banks, allowing Wall Street to run wild, more hundreds of billions if not another trillion at least all due to Bush's stupidity, yet you knuckheads try to blame Obama who's attempt to clean up the mess.

No it is people like you that support obama and the progressives as too why the country is so screwed up. You idiots that do not even know what is going on, only that you want your free stuff and have the government take from the producers, well screw you, time you are made to pay. And when we go over the cliff, it will be obama and the democrats fault, so stop with your lies, they are not working

You're just another piss-ass right wing looney that's been brainwashed into blaming "progressives" for all the evils conservatives actually are responsible for causing. You'd know that if you had any brains, which you don't, so instead you just rant and rave.

You simple minded full blown moron try and let FACTS pentrate your cement block skull and you just might learn something. The cost of Bush's two wars combined with giving the 2% richest an obscene 10% tax cut that's been in effect for over 10 years combined cost TRILLONS of dollars and is actually what has driven up the deficit. If your tiny undevelped brain wasn't the size of a pea, you might be able to figure that out by yourself. Two more things are driving up the deficit. The mindless and totally unnecesary excessive military spending and funding failed programs like TSA frisk and search of grandama and thewar on drugs. Another trillion throw away.

So-called "entitlement" programs like Social Security benefits you blubbering pea brain, are actually the return of funds taken out of people's paycheck and also matched by their employers you blocked headed two bit world class dummy.

I resemble that remark! LOL I have seen some of the dumbest people in my lifetime here on Sodahead. Sometimes I wonder just how the US made it to the top of the food chain of world societies but I can see why we are slipping down the ladder in education and infrastructure. Conservatives think if we don't change and stay right where we are now we'll always be the world leader. Not so. We have to push them forward kicking and screaming all the way.

I third that. There are an awful lot of really, really dumb people posting to Sodahead.

I'm right now having a "discussion" with some nut trying to defend her right to fly the flag upsidedown and she and other right wing kooks use the upside down flag as their avatar.

Just to play with these idiots I posted verbatim the secton of the US code that clearly states the union portion (blue background where the stars are) MUST always be in the upper left hand corner of the flag when it is displayed.

Well you think after that they would give in. Hell no. This dingbat keeps asking where is says that in spite of the post giving what it says word for word is right above the post where she asks.

Many right wingers especially the little clique of hard core ding-dongs posting to Sodahead on a regular basis REALLY are stupid. I mean they are. There's no denying it. Like in this example, even when something is staring them in the face black on white they prefer to remian in denial. Now that's being pigheaded.

Your welcome.

I disagree....

Which would be a better lesson....letting the country go off the fiscal cliff...which is a win win scenario for the progressive agenda...and being blamed for AGAIN as the 'party of NO'for the dilemma in 2016...

OR....

Giving the 52% claiming a MANDATE for 'taxing the rich their fair share'what they want....give it ALL to them...we KNOW the numbers don't add up...history has proven that Keynesian economics have never worked...EVER..., ANYWHERE...,

I say if the boy blunder want's 1.6 TRILLION in new taxes....give it to him
if they want 'unspecified cuts'....give it to him
if they want more 'stimulus'....give it to him
if they want an unlimited debt ceiling...give it to him....

The 52% will 'own it' in 2016....because the the progressive Obama did 'build that'

there will be NOBODY to blame but themselves, and nowhere to hide when they come to collect.
Sometimes the best lessons only come the hard way...