To be a Conservative, you have to....

I am a "conservative", (I suppose). At least a social conservative, and economic moderate.

1. Believe that science is wrong and the bible is true. - I've never understood why so many are at odds over this. The bible isn't a science book, and theory of general relativity is not an act of theological philosophy. There is no reason whatsoever for science and biblical theology not to quite peacefully coexist. In the Church we accept science. I'm not aware of a Catholic doctrine which has been disproved by science. So, I don't fit this one.

2. Believe that Fox "news" is true. - Seriously. "True"? Do you have some "news" channel full of talking heads that YOU believe to be "true" in it's essence? If so, you're just as diluded as anyone who would 100% trust Fox. 24 hour news stations were a bad idea, in spite of their popularity. There's too little to report on, and way too much time to report it, so they all basically run TV shows instead of the news. The characters on the TV shows are politically divisive and heavily partisan. The leftist partisan "news" networks outnumber FOX by many to 1. I believe that Jesus Christ is the truth, and anything else is man with his mouth moving. For actual hard news, you can look to the wires on line, but that's not what people want. They want something to hate each other over.

3. Believe that zygotes are people. If you're referring to the human person in the earliest stages after conception, well then yes, it is a person. It's not a fig or a salamander or a fish. 1st category applicable.

4. Believe that corporations are people. Not a big fan of coporations. I much prefer small business. Not applicable

5. Believe that sex education is wrong and absident education is good even though it doesn't work. Well, actually abstinance education does work in the few places left willing to try it. Sex education, like a host of other things in the development of a child, should come from the parents. There is not reason why non-conservatives shouldn't believe this as well. 2nd applicable item. That's 2 for 5

6. Believe that gays are second class humans. - Patently untrue. Right on the face of it. Human beings are equal.

7. Believe that the confederated were heros. Not true.

8. Believe that liberalism is communism. Not true. Communism is communism. Modern American liberalism is leading itself towards a lot of marxist philosophy in the last 20 years or so. If you're referring to late 20th century, early 21st century American leftist liberalism, then many aspects of it are headed down a road which can make our country quite vulnerable to soviet style socialism infesting itself into our country. This is a real concern. So you can put me down as a partial here. 2.5 for 8

9. Believe that the US was founded on christian laws ever though we don't follow it. The Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, The Constitution of the United States are all founded on Judeo Christian Deism, and yes primarily a Christian ethic. That is they derive from natural law allowing for God. from Wikepedia: "Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and three were Roman Catholics (C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons). Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists. A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson[18][19][20] (who created the so-called "Jefferson Bible") and Benjamin Franklin.[21] A few others (most notably Thomas Paine) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.[22] 3.5 for 8

10. Believe that we have no separation of church and state. Not so. The separation of Church from state, (that is that the U.S. Government may not create nor impose a Church on it's citizens), was an important factor in keeping us having something like the Church of England or some such thing. It also provides for the freedom of the practice of one's faith in the public square without restriction as to the denomination. I certainly believe it is there, and am glad for it.

11. Believe that not following the bible is why the US is doing bad. Only in the sense that the laws of the 10 commandments of the Old Testament, and distillation to the 2 commandments of the New Testament are derived of the natural law which is in all men. When we violate these laws, we violate our nature, and our conscience. This causes problems in any society, since the founding of human civilization. Partial applicability. 4 for 11.

12. Believe that the founders were right-wing. Not really applicable even to your contentions. The ideas of politics in the United States up until the last 3/4 century weren't thought of in these terms. This term certainly wouldn't have applied to the founding fathers, who were men of diverse backgrounds and natures, coming to agreement on the formation of principles to run a country. No wings I'm afraid until modernism.

13. Believe that Obama is a marxist, czar, communist, socialist, nazi, homosexual, muslim, atheist, illegal alien terrorist. You list 10 items that I am supposed to believe about President Obama. Of these, I only agree with 1 (marxist philosophy). 4.1 for 13

14. Believe the tea party is patriotic and the Liberals are the enemy. I like some of what the tea party has to say. I guess I don't understand an awful lot about them. They are called a "party", and yet seem to be within the Republican Party. I'm not sure I understand how a political party can be a part of another political party. I guess I think of them more as a wing of the Republican Party. I believe most their stances contain more in the way of patriotism then I have heard from the other odd party within a party, (the "occupy" movement). I understand some of the frustrations of both of these movements. I don't agree that liberals are enemies. If we still had the classical definition of liberals, then we would probably all fit the category. I think moral relativism, marxist philosophy, and a loss of corporate memory about our evolution as a country, and a failure of the general populace to study, know and learn from history are the biggest enemies.

15. Believe that killing people is ok. - By killing, I guess you mean murdering? (they are different), but oh my...... I am a pro-life activist. I can't agree with this characterization at all. I believe in and support the dignity of human person, and support the inherent rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Murder is a solid flat out crime against humanity. The human life should be given dignity from conception through natural death. If you're speaking of the killing which occurs in war, this is not a right/left issue. It falls under a philisophical set of principles referred to as "just war doctrine". There is also self-preservation, and the protection of the defenseless, one's family, and property. These are all excluded from murder.

So of you list of 15 things which apply to all conservatives, 4.1 of them applied to this conservative. I suspect you'd find a similar ratio among others who would call themselves conservative. If a modern conservative were to make up a list of 15 stereotypes of "modern liberals", then the results would be about the same, to be honest. In the end, this is the kind of flawed way of looking at each other that causes so much friction and division. Most of what is here is simply unresearched political jib-jab used in incite discord. The rest should be honest items of human discussion, with reason, patience, and a common goal of a better life for Americans in the 21st century and beyond.

May God bless,

Steven

What a ridiculous list.

On the other hand...To Be a Liberal you must believe that......

Businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity

The same public school teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is
qualified to teach them about sex

Trial lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid

Capital punishment is bad, but abortion on demand is good - in short, you
support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent

Guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than
nuclear weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese

Global temperatures are affected not by cyclical, documented changes in
the brilliance of the sun, but by yuppies driving SUVs

Gender roles are artificial but being gay is natural

Self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it

The military, not corrupt politicians, start wars

The NRA is bad, because it stands up for certain parts of the
Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it stand up for certain parts
of the Constitution

The AIDS virus is spread by lack of funding

Standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't

Conservatives are racists, but the black people couldn't make it without
your help

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In order to be a liberal: (some may be repeated )

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.


2. You have to believe that corporations create oppression and governments create prosperity. (This one is really important)


3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists or Islamic fundamentalists.


4. You have to believe that there was no art before government funding.


5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.


6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.


7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of government funding.


8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.


9. You have to believe that outdoorsmen don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.


10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.


11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make The Passion Of The Christ for financial gain only.


12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.


13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.


14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.


15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.


16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.


17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.


18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.


19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.


20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.


21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.

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