My point, which you missed, is that no one is having a right taken from them because they have never had that right under the law.

What about the "rights" of children who are brought up in polygamists households, do you give a RIP about their "rights". You can't possibly believe that is a healthy way to grow up.

How did I miss the point when I clearly addressed it?

"The fact that they have never had it doesn't mean that it is okay to continue denying them the right to be legally recognized as a couple."

And as I stated, I don't agree with polygamy. But so long as the adults are marrying other adults and not giving their children to dirty old men I don't think it's my right to deny them freedom to practice their religion. I don't think that it's any less healthy than people who let their children play violent video games. Same card of the opposite deck. If anything they are too modest and strict on their children to me, but it's not my place to raise other people's children for them.

Ok, scratch "which you missed". My point however is still the same. All that the proponents of Prop 8 want, is to keep marriage defined as being between one man and one woman period.

Polygamist households are rife with stories of child abuse both physical and sexual. I put the rights of innocent children before the rights of polygamists any day of the week.

Monogamous couples abuse their children. There is no statistic showing that one happens more frequently than the other. Having more wives doesn't make a family abusive. Those people would abuse their children regardless.

So your argument against Polygamy is: Less potential victims equals less victims?

No, my argument against polygamy, is that it goes against God's plan for marriage and sex.

Do you have an argument that isn't wholly dependent on one religion or another?

If not then that only means that you do not believe Christians should be involved in Polygamy, and thus have no power over non-Christians.

Whether one is saved or not, polygamy is not in line with God's plan. However, this is irrelevant for those who are unsaved because they're unsaved. They are already condemned to Hell so whether they participate in polygamy or not is a moot point. It is most definitely sinful as it goes against God's plan. So, it is most definitely wrong for Christians to engage in it.

"So, it is most definitely wrong for Christians to engage in it."

Exactly. Christians are not allowed to practice polygamy. But because Christians are not allowed because of there religion, it does not mean that non-Christians should also not be allowed, whether they are Hindus, Buddhist, Muslims, Baha'i, Sikh, or none of the above, just because Christians are not allowed doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed for anyone else. Simply put, that is insane. If you don't agree with it, don't practice it. But don't force others to follow your beliefs. Everyone has a mind and everyone should be allowed to choose for themselves whether they agree or not.

It is against God's Law and God's Law applies to everyone whether Christian or not. The violation of God's Law, leads to death for non-Christians.

And that is your belief and you have every right to believe that. And nobody has the right to stop you from believing that. HOWEVER that does not mean that others believe the same as you, nor does it mean you have the right to impose your beliefs on others. As I said, everyone has a mind of there own, and if your chosen deity is as great and powerful as you claim, then he will cause non-Christians to convert.

He doesn't cause anyone to convert. They must choose Him on their own volition. But, regardless, all of mankind is subject to the Laws of God whether Christian or not.

Then there is no reason for you to push your beliefs onto others. A) They will convert on there own, and B) they are supposedly subject to the laws of your chosen deity, whether they follow your religion or not.

I'm not pushing my beliefs on anyone, but thank you for your opinion.

By wanting a law to be put into place only allowing those your religion deems fit to marry, you are in fact pushing your beliefs on others.

No, all we want is for marriage to be defined as being between one man and one woman. We don't care if you're Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan or any other belief system one can think of. No one is forcing anyone to be Christian or straight.

You are only allowing straight people to get married by your proposed laws. And your proposed laws are, in fact, based upon your belief.

Because marriage was given for the express purpose of allowing straight people to enjoy sex and propagate the species.

"Because marriage was given for the express purpose of allowing straight people to enjoy sex and propagate the species."

Then sign my petition to disallow all sterile couples from getting married?