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Thousands rally in support of gay marriage ban
- June 01, 2009 20:05:05
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- Thousands of supporters of California's ban on same-sex marriage rallied in Fresno and San Diego on Sunday in what organizers described as a celebration of traditional wedlock and a thank-you to the California Supreme Court for upholding their voter-approved measure.
In Fresno, about 3,000 demonstrators -- the same number who turned out the day before on the other side -- were told not to accept being called bigots because they support traditional marriage.
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In Fresno, about 3,000 demonstrators -- the same number who turned out the day before on the other side -- were told not to accept being called bigots because they support traditional marriage.
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Democracy and free speech work both ways...good to see conservatives are shedding their anti-activist habits.View thread
Why do you have such trouble with an opinion that doesn't coincide with yours? Are you that thin skinned? You certainly have the right to rally. Why don't you get off your ass and rally for it then instead of bitching when others do?
Seems all these people want is for 'marriage' to be defined as it always has. A union of a man and a woman. Something sacred for the traditional family.
It's at the State level - where it should reside. The state decided.
Why does that bother you so much? It was at the level of government it should be at. I don't care who loves whom. Is it that much of a stretch to allow a State the right to hold an election and uphold it?
It is exactly yours and mine - the right to decide in the state where you reside to vote for or against it. But you can't seem to take it as it is. Why shouldn't marriage be defined as a union between a man and a woman? What is wrong with civil unions? Same rights. Just a name change.
I'm not going to Hell and I know many more who aren't going to Hell either. We don't all defy God's Word. I don't defy God's Word and as I just stated, I know many more who also don't defy His Word. We uphold His Word, which is why we fight so hard to keep marriage defined as being between one man and one woman. God made no provision for same sex marriage period. As such, it is a perversion of God's plan for marriage and sex.
Nothing makes me better because I'm not better but, I am forgiven.
We're not celebrating the restriction of anyone's rights, we're celebrating the spiritual victory that God's Word is being upheld and His institution of marriage is being preserved and protected.
No sin is "okay" to commit and ALL of it is "reprehensible". In fact, that is why Jesus went to the cross, to provide us a way, even in our sinful state, to be forgiven and go to Heaven.
The gift of salvation is available to anyone who wishes to receive it.
What is the purpose of voting, if its not about a majority ruling?
LOL!! You only say it wasn't an "honest vote", because it didn't go your way. Isn't that the truth?
Why are people "hypocrits" in your estimation for merely believing the way they do? The only way I would be a hypocrite in this situation, is if I was secretly married to someone of the same sex.
Do you even know what the word "hypocrite" means?
Btw, the vote wasn't about straights vs gays. It was about people who see nothing wrong with same sex marriage and wish to legalize it and those that do see it as wrong and want to keep it from being legalized. So, it's not that that the poor, oppressed gays were outvoted, it's that those who see nothing wrong with same sex marriage and wish to legalize it were outvoted.
I never said that anyone was a hypocrit for their belief that gay marriage shouldn't be legal. They are hypocrits because they gladly enjoy their legal sins on a daily basis and don't bring those to a vote because it would inconvenience their lifestyle. The only reason they vote against this particular sin being legal is because it doesn't pertain to them! It's hypocritical for someone to sin and think it's okay for them to do so but then want to OUTLAW a sin that is easy for them to resist.
I never said that it was straights vs. gays. Nor did I say poor oppressed gays. Way to pull that outta left field! I never once implied that. I said that gay people are a minority. True statement.
*And who ever keeps DRing me, get a life. I'm not voilating TOS.*
The reason no one has ever needed to vote on straight people being married, is because generally speaking, it has been around since the beginning of time and no one has objected to it.
"I never said that anyone was a hypocrit for their belief that gay marriage shouldn't be legal."
You most certainly did, when you said this "Gay supporters are the minority.... of course they can't out-vote hypocrits". The inference, is that anyone who voted in favor of Prop 8, is a hypocrite.
Btw, their sins are irrelevant to how they voted. They would only be hypocrites as I pointed out previously, if they were secretly married to some one of the same sex and then voted in favor of Prop 8. That, would be hypocritical. The reason they vote against this sin being legalized, is because they are against same sex marriage period.
We all sin from time to time as we are an imperfect and fallen race. However, just because we aren't sinless, it doesn't mean that we think it's ok. Nor, does it mean that anyone who votes against same sex marriage is hypocritical jus...
The reason no one has ever needed to vote on straight people being married, is because generally speaking, it has been around since the beginning of time and no one has objected to it.
"I never said that anyone was a hypocrit for their belief that gay marriage shouldn't be legal."
You most certainly did, when you said this "Gay supporters are the minority.... of course they can't out-vote hypocrits". The inference, is that anyone who voted in favor of Prop 8, is a hypocrite.
Btw, their sins are irrelevant to how they voted. They would only be hypocrites as I pointed out previously, if they were secretly married to some one of the same sex and then voted in favor of Prop 8. That, would be hypocritical. The reason they vote against this sin being legalized, is because they are against same sex marriage period.
We all sin from time to time as we are an imperfect and fallen race. However, just because we aren't sinless, it doesn't mean that we think it's ok. Nor, does it mean that anyone who votes against same sex marriage is hypocritical just because they aren't sinless. Sin, in the life of a believer, is never ok and must always be dealt with swiftly.
You made a comment about straights versus gays. I did not pull that out of the air. But, since then, you have edited your response so I can't prove what was said. I will definitely not make that mistake with you again.
In my eyes it's not fair to allow or deny rights to people based on religious beliefs here in America. I'm not a polygamist, but I haven't seen any reason to deny them the right to marry either. (Of course I don't agree with them marrying 14 year olds, but rather consenting adults that love each other.) Point being, I'm not just for gay marriage because I'm bi and it may be an advantage to me one day. It's about this being a free country. Imagine if it were your rights at stake. What if one day you become the minority and we started voting on things that would obstruct YOUR pursuit of happiness? Would you feel differently if it were a law enforcing a Muslim tadition or taking away a Christian right? I think that if marriage is a legal union it shouldn't be religion based and vice versa for the protection of not just the rights of others, but my own as well. It's not so much about the hypocrisy as it is me putting the shoe on the other foot.
I'm not trying to argue and I really DO respect and appreciate the fact that we have the right to decide for ourselves. I just wish that people would stop...
In my eyes it's not fair to allow or deny rights to people based on religious beliefs here in America. I'm not a polygamist, but I haven't seen any reason to deny them the right to marry either. (Of course I don't agree with them marrying 14 year olds, but rather consenting adults that love each other.) Point being, I'm not just for gay marriage because I'm bi and it may be an advantage to me one day. It's about this being a free country. Imagine if it were your rights at stake. What if one day you become the minority and we started voting on things that would obstruct YOUR pursuit of happiness? Would you feel differently if it were a law enforcing a Muslim tadition or taking away a Christian right? I think that if marriage is a legal union it shouldn't be religion based and vice versa for the protection of not just the rights of others, but my own as well. It's not so much about the hypocrisy as it is me putting the shoe on the other foot.
I'm not trying to argue and I really DO respect and appreciate the fact that we have the right to decide for ourselves. I just wish that people would stop looking out for their own interest and think of the big picture. I just want to make my case and hope that people can understand why I feel the way I do.
Again, no one cares or is attempting to oullaw homosexuality, bisexuality transgender etc... All we desire, is for marriage to be defined as being between one man and one woman, as it always has been. In other words, it is still a free country. Yes, I would be upset if our government all of sudden instituted Sharia Law(which btw, may not be too far off) taking away my right to worship whomever I please, I would be very upset. However, that is because a right which I previously had, has now been stripped from me, so, I would be furious. But, the difference between that scenario and keeping marriage defined as it always has been defined, is that gays NEVER had the right to marry. Ergo, they are not having a right stripped away from them, as they have never been granted that right in the first place.
I understand why you feel the way you do, because you see nothing wrong with homosexuality. Based on that fact alone, I can fully understand your position but, I still respectfully have to disagree.