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Thomas Paine, Four Letters on Interesting Subjects, 1776

Alexander 2013/06/03 12:44:03

"No country can be called free which is governed by an absolute power; and it
matters not whether it be an absolute royal power or an absolute legislative
power, as the consequences will be the same to the people."


--Thomas Paine, Four Letters on Interesting Subjects, 1776

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  • Striker 2013/06/03 15:01:17
    Striker
    +6
    Paine's keywords would be "absolute power" and "consequences".

    Man has supposedly opted to be GOVERNed from the beginnings of history. The eight billion people on this planet are claimed to be Ruled by only about three percent of their same species. Those Rulers are always the proponents of Force, and come always to use that Force against all it's "Citizens".

    Nations are created with "boundaries" purportedly to Defend against all other Nations, which concept reinforces the differences of race, language and customs with Armies which are supported by taxing/stealing from the Citizens to build the machinations of War. To justify all this, Nations invent excuses to make War against other Nations, and forces the Citizens to sacrifice their wealth and their lives to "Defend" the indefensible.

    It's all done via words on pieces of paper, which variously create levels of government called townships, cities, counties, states, nations and now the planetary government we call the "United" Nations. Those papers become called "laws" and all shall revere and obey these decrees despite that no Citizen shall be allowed to dissent, nor shall their consent be necessary.

    And such is the irrationality of our supposedly "intelligent" species.

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  • Blast Dorrough 2013/06/07 05:25:01
    Blast Dorrough
    +2
    The Declaration of Independence is the Founding Document of the United States. Thomas Paine's bold influence is seen in the Founding Document. Paine had great influence on all Founders from all walks of life. I consider the uneducated who were inspired by the American cause as Founders,, especially those who died in the trenches seeking egalitarian and economic justice for all of humankind. Paine and the Founders always spoke for the oppressed of humankind. Paine even thought of himself as a "citizen of the world." As noted under the Declaration, the Founders sought "to dissolve the Political Bands" with the united evildoers of Kingcraft, Corporatecraft and demonic Christiancraft "and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..." By definition and in letter and spirit the Declaration is a deistical Founding Document affirming Deism as the True Theology in rejection of all man-contrived religioncraft as false theology. "That which is now called natural philosophy, embracing the whole circle of science, of which astronomy occupies the chief place, is the study of the works of God, and of the power and wisdom of God in His works, and is the true theology... It is the structure of the...
    The Declaration of Independence is the Founding Document of the United States. Thomas Paine's bold influence is seen in the Founding Document. Paine had great influence on all Founders from all walks of life. I consider the uneducated who were inspired by the American cause as Founders,, especially those who died in the trenches seeking egalitarian and economic justice for all of humankind. Paine and the Founders always spoke for the oppressed of humankind. Paine even thought of himself as a "citizen of the world." As noted under the Declaration, the Founders sought "to dissolve the Political Bands" with the united evildoers of Kingcraft, Corporatecraft and demonic Christiancraft "and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..." By definition and in letter and spirit the Declaration is a deistical Founding Document affirming Deism as the True Theology in rejection of all man-contrived religioncraft as false theology. "That which is now called natural philosophy, embracing the whole circle of science, of which astronomy occupies the chief place, is the study of the works of God, and of the power and wisdom of God in His works, and is the true theology... It is the structure of the universe that has taught this knowledge to man. That structure is an every-existing exhibition of every principle upon which every part of mathematical science is founded. The offspring of this science is mechanics; for mechanics is no other than the principles of science applied practically...It is from the study of the true theology that all our knowledge of science is derived, and it is from that knowledge that all the arts have originated."--The Age of Reason---The Complete Edition by Thomas Paine.
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  • SIMPATTYCO Blast D... 2013/06/08 01:06:06
    SIMPATTYCO
    Too bad, most folks don't know him or his writings .
  • Blast D... SIMPATTYCO 2013/06/09 00:14:54
    Blast Dorrough
    +1
    Yes, Simpattyco, Abe Lincoln revealed that "I never tire reading Paine."
  • Blast Dorrough 2013/06/05 16:14:14
    Blast Dorrough
    +5
    "What is called a REPUBLIC is wholly characteristical of the purport, matter, or object for which government ought to be instituted, and on which it is to be employed, RES-PUBLICA, the public affairs, or the public good; or, literally translated the PUBLIC THING. It is a word of a good original referring to what ought to be the character and business of government; and in this sense it is naturally opposed to the word MONARCHY, which has a base original signification. It means arbitrary power in an individual person [or cabal of Corporatecrafters]; in the exercise of which, HIMSELF [Corporatecrafters] and not the RES-PUBLICA, is the object." -- Rights of Man by Thomas Paine
  • SIMPATTYCO Blast D... 2013/06/08 01:06:16
    SIMPATTYCO
    Too bad, most folks don't know him or his writings .
  • RevJim 2013/06/04 18:05:50
    RevJim
    +2
    This is one of the core beliefs on which our nation was founded, yet i keep seeing some people on Soda Head claim that the founders of our nation were "progressive," meaning they WANTED bigger government. I wonder who is teaching them this manure?
  • Blast D... RevJim 2013/06/07 04:46:16
    Blast Dorrough
    +2
    The Mission Statement of the United States is under the Preamble to the Constitution. WE THE PEOPLE clearly intended our constitutionally mandated "Republican Form of government" to be one based on egalitarian and economic justice for the "general welfare" of all citizens. They had just defeated and broken up the alliance between King George and his Court of evil Corporatecrafters and demonic Christiancrafters. This was a Criminal Class of imagined nobility afflicted with notions of hereditary privilege and "entitlement" to plunder the Kingdom and other Kingdoms at will with impunity. Thomas Paine branded this evil alliance as "the species of useless pomp." Most Americans know that Paine inspired the American Revolution via Common Sense. However, very few know that the Great Paine closed his argument for Revolution via Four Letters On Interesting Subjects written between May 22 & July 2, 1776, just days before the U.S. Declaration of Independence on July 4. At the close of Letter III, Paine wrote: "As to Corporations themselves, they are without exception so many badges of kingly tyranny, and tend, like every other species of useless pomp, to the oppression and impoverishment of the place, without one single advantage arising from them. They keep up a perpetual spirit of...
    The Mission Statement of the United States is under the Preamble to the Constitution. WE THE PEOPLE clearly intended our constitutionally mandated "Republican Form of government" to be one based on egalitarian and economic justice for the "general welfare" of all citizens. They had just defeated and broken up the alliance between King George and his Court of evil Corporatecrafters and demonic Christiancrafters. This was a Criminal Class of imagined nobility afflicted with notions of hereditary privilege and "entitlement" to plunder the Kingdom and other Kingdoms at will with impunity. Thomas Paine branded this evil alliance as "the species of useless pomp." Most Americans know that Paine inspired the American Revolution via Common Sense. However, very few know that the Great Paine closed his argument for Revolution via Four Letters On Interesting Subjects written between May 22 & July 2, 1776, just days before the U.S. Declaration of Independence on July 4. At the close of Letter III, Paine wrote: "As to Corporations themselves, they are without exception so many badges of kingly tyranny, and tend, like every other species of useless pomp, to the oppression and impoverishment of the place, without one single advantage arising from them. They keep up a perpetual spirit of distinction and faction, engross emoluments and advantages to themselves, which ought to be employed to better purposes, and generally get into quarrels and lawsuits with the other part of the inhabitants. They diminish the freedom of every place where they exist.... But of all Corporations that of Philadelphia is the most obnoxious, its power resembling that of an hermaphrodite, or is at least a kind of aristocratical Corporation made hereditary by adoption."
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  • SIMPATTYCO Blast D... 2013/06/08 01:06:47
    SIMPATTYCO
    +2
    Too bad, most folks don't know him or his writings .
  • Blast D... SIMPATTYCO 2013/06/26 18:47:08
    Blast Dorrough
    +1
    Appreciate your acknowledgement of Paine's influence on all Founder's from all walks of life. (On the matter of "U.S. Founders" that necessarily includes all brave souls who gave their lives fighting in the trenches for the American egalitarian cause. As a reminder every name should should be enshrined on a monument in Washington, DC. ) Blast
  • SIMPATTYCO Blast D... 2013/06/26 19:32:48
    SIMPATTYCO
    i got my copies almost free on my kindle
  • Blast D... SIMPATTYCO 2013/06/27 19:28:41 (edited)
    Blast Dorrough
    Paine's eight "Letters to the Citizens of the United States and Particularly to the Leaders of the Federal Faction" (1802-1803) clearly warns of the rising united monarchists (Corporatecrafters and demonic Christiancrafters) who began a re-usurpation of their political power during the John Adams' presidency known as "The Reign of Terror" (1797-1801). Writer Kenneth W. Burchell offers great quotes from Eight Letters via download of his five-page "The Pamphlet" at http://thomaspainesociety.org... (Actually, Thomas Jefferson warned of the Treasonous Duo Group of Evil Plotters first in a letter dated June 19, 1792 to Thomas Paine: "Would you believe it possible that in this country there should be high & important characters who need your lessons in republicanism, & who do not heed them? It is but too true that we have a sect preaching up pouting after an English constitution of king, lords, & commons, & whose heads are itching for crowns, coronets & mitres. But our people, my good friend, are firm and unanimous in their principles of republicanism & there is not better proof of it than that they love what you write and read it with delight [from Rights of Man]. That was five years before the "Reign of Terror.")
  • SIMPATTYCO RevJim 2013/06/08 01:06:26
    SIMPATTYCO
    +2
    Too bad, most folks don't know him or his writings .
  • wtw 2013/06/03 20:24:19
    wtw
    +3
    He was spot on!
  • Jackie 2013/06/03 16:01:21
    Jackie
    +4
    Very true. American government was never to be a ruling government like a monarchy. It was to have only one purpose. To protect us from outside harm. To keep strong armies for self defense of outside threats. Laws by the state. The government has outreached it's purpose. A monumental bad thing, oppression and control can only follow. We are suffering a dictatorship in America today.
  • Blast D... Jackie 2013/06/27 18:39:07
    Blast Dorrough
    +1
    Grass had yet to cover the graves of Founding Guards giving the ultimate for the American egalitarian cause for all of humankind. The humankind of the world yet to read Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason---The Complete Edition" (consisting of all three parts of The Age of Reason and Paine's essays on morality, truth, principle and the One and only True Theology of Deism) are missing a real treat in literary brilliance. Elihu Palmer, author of The Principles of Nature, had this to say of his friend, the Great Paine to evil "conservatives" of Dark Age thought and of a Machiavellian mentality: "The writings of Paine bear the most striking relation to the immediate improvement and moral felicity of the intelligent world. He writes upon principle, and he always understands the principle on which he writes; he reasons without logic, and convinces without argumentation; he strangles error by his first grasp, and develops truth with much simplicity, but with irresistible force. He is one of the first and best of writers, and probably the most useful man that ever existed upon the face of the earth. His moral and political writings are equally excellent, and the beneficial influence of the principles for which he has contended, will be felt through all succeeding ages."
  • Wake The Sheeple 2013/06/03 15:18:19
    Wake The Sheeple
    +5
    That's a good one but, I like this one better.

    Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.
    - Thomas Paine
  • SIMPATTYCO Wake Th... 2013/06/08 01:07:16
    SIMPATTYCO
    +1
    Too bad, most folks don't know him or his writings .
  • Wake Th... SIMPATTYCO 2013/06/08 05:38:13
    Wake The Sheeple
    +1
    If only it were required reading in public indoctrination day camps.
  • Blast D... Wake Th... 2014/05/26 23:45:08 (edited)
    Blast Dorrough
    The Great Paine to not only Monarchists and Corporations was also a pain to the Ignorant [demonic Christians] who blindly submitted to the Monarchist media of deceit, deception and outright lies, much like they do today via Fox DisInformation masked as "News." Paine wrote in Rights of Man: "Reason and Ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. If either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country, the machinery of Government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself; and Ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it [via disinformation,designed misinformation]. The moving power in this species of Government, is of necessity, Corruption. The more ignorant any country is, the better it is fitted for this species of Government."
  • Sheila 2013/06/03 15:05:50
    Sheila
    +4
    Thomas Paine was brilliant then and is still relevant now. We need a new Paine. Our youth have been taught that anyone who speaks the way he did can not be trusted. So we need someone who says the same things but in todays vernacular so they will listen.
  • Wake Th... Sheila 2013/06/03 15:13:53
    Wake The Sheeple
    +3
    It's truly sad that a message must be dumbed down for today's Americans. If that doesn't tell you that public education is a failure I don't know what will.
  • Sheila Wake Th... 2013/06/03 15:23:08
    Sheila
    +4
    Yup. They don't teach HOW to think, but WHAT to think...
  • Major Mel Sheila 2013/06/03 17:27:52
    Major Mel
    +4
    Correct! that's they way it is in all government schools (or as they are known by others as Public Schools!)
  • Major Mel Sheila 2013/06/03 17:26:51
    Major Mel
    +3
    Instead of a new Paine, we have a royal 'pain in the kazoo' occupying the 'Oval Orifice.' Misspell intentional.
  • Sheila Major Mel 2013/06/03 18:34:57
    Sheila
    +2
    Darn skippy Major! Makes me sick.
  • Striker 2013/06/03 15:01:17
    Striker
    +6
    Paine's keywords would be "absolute power" and "consequences".

    Man has supposedly opted to be GOVERNed from the beginnings of history. The eight billion people on this planet are claimed to be Ruled by only about three percent of their same species. Those Rulers are always the proponents of Force, and come always to use that Force against all it's "Citizens".

    Nations are created with "boundaries" purportedly to Defend against all other Nations, which concept reinforces the differences of race, language and customs with Armies which are supported by taxing/stealing from the Citizens to build the machinations of War. To justify all this, Nations invent excuses to make War against other Nations, and forces the Citizens to sacrifice their wealth and their lives to "Defend" the indefensible.

    It's all done via words on pieces of paper, which variously create levels of government called townships, cities, counties, states, nations and now the planetary government we call the "United" Nations. Those papers become called "laws" and all shall revere and obey these decrees despite that no Citizen shall be allowed to dissent, nor shall their consent be necessary.

    And such is the irrationality of our supposedly "intelligent" species.
  • SIMPATTYCO Striker 2013/06/08 01:07:56
    SIMPATTYCO
    +1
    Too bad, most folks don't know him or his writings .
  • DoxieDad 2013/06/03 12:57:49
    DoxieDad
    +1
    Wow, lets all go back and live in 1776.
    I did not realize we lived under an all powerful legislative Imperial Government.
  • Sheila DoxieDad 2013/06/03 15:06:37
    Sheila
    +2
    They can now mandate that I purchase a product that I don't want from a private company...what would you call that??
  • Wake Th... Sheila 2013/06/03 15:16:00
    Wake The Sheeple
    +1
    A new (real) Tea Party brewing.
  • DoxieDad Sheila 2013/06/04 13:17:57
    DoxieDad
    I call it automobile insurance. I call it being fined for not wearing a seat belt. I call it having to have a federally approved state issued drivers license.
    Stop listening to the right wing echo chamber on Obiecare.
  • Sheila DoxieDad 2013/06/04 15:20:35 (edited)
    Sheila
    +1
    Why do you assume I don't have my OWN opinion?

    I do not have to have auto insurance to be a citizen in good standing. So no on the comparison there. Driving is not a right. Nor is health care. They are in order a privilege and a service. Travel IS a right. no one can tell me I can not travel from state to state. But IF I do it by car that I own there are rules involved there.
  • Wake Th... DoxieDad 2013/06/03 15:15:22
    Wake The Sheeple
    +1
    You haven't been paying much attention then.

    ndaa
  • DoxieDad Wake Th... 2013/06/04 13:22:22
    DoxieDad
    To what? The fact that the government has been seeping into my personal life? That good sir has been going on since Joe McCarthy was looking for commies under everyone's bed. You see the government is always to big and to intrusive until it is something that you think the government needs to do. Think about it!
  • Wake Th... DoxieDad 2013/06/04 13:56:36
    Wake The Sheeple
    +3
    McCarthy was a nut job, but what is going on right now makes McCarthy's commie hunt look like a children's game of hide and go seek. I am referring to the NDAA, "Patriot" Act, wealth transfer from the American people to banks and corporate donors, etc. Tyranny has arrived.
  • Sheila DoxieDad 2013/06/04 15:22:45
    Sheila
    +1
    LOL, he says McCarthy was a nut. I say he was RIGHT. That has been proven since then.

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