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Luis 2012/06/09 01:19:34+3The European market is not of any matter close to me. The housing debacle was caused by the banks and congress deregulating them so they could become criminals. What Obama is doing is a little something but it is like putting a band aid on a decapitated person who has been dead four years.

















First off, if I'm underwater in my home, you can lower my interest rate all you want. I will still be a potential strategic foreclosure. In fact, it's far more likely many folks will walk away from these if they owe significanlty more than the market value.
Second, his 'research' that a single foreclosure in the neighborhood starts the downward spiral in values is false. Very false. It's a supply/demand issue and external influences that cause declines in value. If there are 2 foreclosures in a neighborhood of say, 500 homes, this bean counter will have everyone watching the video believing their values have just plummeted 14%. Nonsense. If there are 30-40 foreclosures and short sales, then we have an issue. There are far more factors that play into this, so please, please don't buy this guy's analysis as gospel. It's theoretical nonsense.
When my wife lost her home, I sold mine just before the crash, No one would help or talk to us. They just said oh well. The house was 315,000 and plummeted to 85,000.00. Why on Earth would we keep making the payments? My wife tried but her son also owned half and refused to pay anything. He makes almost five times as much as she does. So in the end we lived there for a year and then moved out. Strategic foreclosures are all we can do now a days.
You won't be able to. The reality of the issue is that Fannie/Freddie and the housing bubble was building for decades prior to Bush. The beginning of the problems actually started as far back as LBJ's administration. He was the creator of the GSEs as we know them. Fannie's original life began as a part of the New Deal in the 30's, but the GSEs as private entities with the implied Treasury guarantee didn't happen until the 60's when LBJ took Fannie out of the federal budget and made them private entities. Nothing significant changed from that point until Johnson took over as CEO and began transforming Fannie Mae from the quiet utility type stock into the vehemouth that wielded power over it's regulators and the toxic portfolio began.
I won't begin to say things didn't heat up to the ultimate pressure point during his administration, but democrats also seem to conveniently forget the total avoidance of the warnings brought up by the congressional and senatorial republicans in the early 2000's. Barney Frank and his buds kept Fannie on her path to destruction by spewing falsehoods.
There were many, many steps that led to the perfect storm we're still weathering here.
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You won't be able to. The reality of the issue is that Fannie/Freddie and the housing bubble was building for decades prior to Bush. The beginning of the problems actually started as far back as LBJ's administration. He was the creator of the GSEs as we know them. Fannie's original life began as a part of the New Deal in the 30's, but the GSEs as private entities with the implied Treasury guarantee didn't happen until the 60's when LBJ took Fannie out of the federal budget and made them private entities. Nothing significant changed from that point until Johnson took over as CEO and began transforming Fannie Mae from the quiet utility type stock into the vehemouth that wielded power over it's regulators and the toxic portfolio began.
I won't begin to say things didn't heat up to the ultimate pressure point during his administration, but democrats also seem to conveniently forget the total avoidance of the warnings brought up by the congressional and senatorial republicans in the early 2000's. Barney Frank and his buds kept Fannie on her path to destruction by spewing falsehoods.
There were many, many steps that led to the perfect storm we're still weathering here.
As for Obama fixing it all, you're dreaming. He's done nothing, and I mean nothing in the way of fixing the ails. Dodd Frank didn't even begin to address the GSEs, and all this administration has done is continue to float money to Fannie and Freddie from the Treasury.
Groups ask HUD to rethink plan that would increase financing of homes to low-income people.
June 17, 2004: 12:24 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.
The National Association of Home Builders, along with the National Association of Realtors and the Mortgage Bankers Association, are drafting a letter to Alphonso Jackson, secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), arguing that middle-income home buyers are the ones that will get hurt by the proposed plan, the NAHB told CNN/Money.
In April, the HUD proposed new rules that would raise the percentage of loans bought by the two government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) that finance borrowers whose incomes are at or below the median for their area, according to the Wall Street Journal .
But the groups will warn in the letter that the proposed rules requiring the two GSEs to finance more "affordable housing" may have "unintended consequences," hurting some poor and middle-income people struggling to afford houses, the Journal said.
Fannie and Freddie, which use...
Groups ask HUD to rethink plan that would increase financing of homes to low-income people.
June 17, 2004: 12:24 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.
The National Association of Home Builders, along with the National Association of Realtors and the Mortgage Bankers Association, are drafting a letter to Alphonso Jackson, secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), arguing that middle-income home buyers are the ones that will get hurt by the proposed plan, the NAHB told CNN/Money.
In April, the HUD proposed new rules that would raise the percentage of loans bought by the two government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) that finance borrowers whose incomes are at or below the median for their area, according to the Wall Street Journal .
But the groups will warn in the letter that the proposed rules requiring the two GSEs to finance more "affordable housing" may have "unintended consequences," hurting some poor and middle-income people struggling to afford houses, the Journal said.
Fannie and Freddie, which use their ability to borrow cheaply in the government agency bond market to help middle-to-low income people buy homes, would be compelled to provide more funds to low-income home buyers by slashing their financing of middle-income home buyers, David Crowe of the NAHB told the paper.
The points being raised by the groups have also mirrored objections raised by Fannie (FNM: Research, Estimates) and Freddie (FRE: Research, Estimates). Both GSEs said they favor more efforts to promote affordable housing, but say HUD has made some unrealistic assumptions about how much more the GSEs can do over the next few years, the Journal said.
Actually the builders and NAR were worried the Fannie funds for middle income borrowers would become more costly as a result due to increased demand and increased risk.
And this supports your claim of laying the entire housing bubble at the feet of W Bush? Very lame and not even close.
BUSH's plan which tanked the economy.
NAR and the home builders never, ever say 'let's sell fewer homes'. They never say 'let's tighten the regs.' NEVER!
Bush alone did not sink the economy. Once again, it's been brewing for decades, but unfortunately you can't manage to learn and research beyond your partisan goggles.
The avatar fits, I'm afraid. Head of stone, and large mouth wide open.
These families were, of course, conservative, or at a minimum traditional and nuclear, consisting of a heterosexual married couple and at least two kids living in a stand-alone home with a yard, a car or two and a multimedia room with a flat-screen television. The latter was a new addition to this 21st-century simulacrum of the 1950s "Leave It to Beaver" idyll. But the dream was the same.
Such a country would be more stable, Bush argued, and more prosperous. "America is a stronger country every single time a family moves into a home of their own," he said in October 2004. To achieve his vision, Bush pushed new policies encouraging homeownership, like the "zero-down-payment initiative," which was much as it sounds—a government-sponsored program that allowed people to get mortgages without a down payment. More exotic mortgages followed, including ones with no monthly payments for the first two years. Other mortgages required no documentation other than the say-so of the borrower. Absurd though these all were, the...
These families were, of course, conservative, or at a minimum traditional and nuclear, consisting of a heterosexual married couple and at least two kids living in a stand-alone home with a yard, a car or two and a multimedia room with a flat-screen television. The latter was a new addition to this 21st-century simulacrum of the 1950s "Leave It to Beaver" idyll. But the dream was the same.
Such a country would be more stable, Bush argued, and more prosperous. "America is a stronger country every single time a family moves into a home of their own," he said in October 2004. To achieve his vision, Bush pushed new policies encouraging homeownership, like the "zero-down-payment initiative," which was much as it sounds—a government-sponsored program that allowed people to get mortgages without a down payment. More exotic mortgages followed, including ones with no monthly payments for the first two years. Other mortgages required no documentation other than the say-so of the borrower. Absurd though these all were, they paled in comparison to the financial innovations that grew out of the mortgages—derivatives built on other derivatives, packaged and repackaged until no one could identify what they contained and how much they were, in fact, worth.
As we know by now, these instruments have brought the global financial system, improbably, to the brink of collapse. And as financial strains drive husbands and wives apart, Bush's ownership ideology may end up having the same effect on the stable nuclear families conservatives so badly wanted to foster.
The dream of a better society through homeownership didn't originate with George W. Bush. It's as American as Manifest Destiny. The Homestead Act in 1862 offered acres to anyone willing to brave the Western frontier. During Reconstruction, freed slaves were promised "40 acres and a mule." And after World War II, with Levittown and its cousins, affordable homes were a reward of victory. But until very recently, those hopes and dreams were connected to actual income and gainful employment. No longer.
The giddiness of the Bush years built on the promise of the New Economy era, a promise perfectly encapsulated by a 1999 billboard advertising a shiny new subdivision in Scroggins, Texas, filled with homes that most of their owners couldn't really afford: YES, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL! That dream took a sharp hit with the collapse of the Internet stock bubble in 2000-2001 and then with 9/11, both of which destroyed billions of dollars of wealth. But it came roaring back in 2002, encouraged by Bush's post-9/11 exhortation that Americans could do their patriotic duty by going shopping and paying lower taxes, even as government spending exploded. Shop they did, and homes they bought.
How about Clinton?
http://www.businessweek.com/t...
Now then, the zero down programs. You've got those a tad twisted. See, Ameridream was the grandaddy of what we call the 'Downpayment Assistance Programs'. It was the beginning and spawed the creation of others like it such as Neighborhood Gold.
Government sponsored? Hardly. Again, I warned you - card carrying NAR member here so I know my stuff and you're in territory you don't understand. These were non-profit organizations and had not a damn thing to do with the government. FHA tried to kill them for several years before they were successful. Guess when congress finally put a stop to them - September 2008.
Here you go, straight from the Ameridream website:
http://www.ameridream.org/Who...
Something else you probably need to take note of: Ameridream was established in 1999. Note: that was prior to George Bush's first inauguration. The CRA, the push for affordable housing, the expansion of homeownership, it began long before Bush. I won't say he didn't have his own gasoline can to fuel the fire, but he didn't start it.
These families were, of course, conservative, or at a minimum traditional and nuclear, consisting of a heterosexual married couple and at least two kids living in a stand-alone home with a yard, a car or two and a multimedia room with a flat-screen television. The latter was a new addition to this 21st-century simulacrum of the 1950s "Leave It to Beaver" idyll. But the dream was the same.
Such a country would be more stable, Bush argued, and more prosperous. "America is a stronger country every single time a family moves into a home of their own," he said in October 2004. To achieve his vision, Bush pushed new policies encouraging homeownership, like the "zero-down-payment initiative," which was much as it sounds—a government-sponsored program that allowed people to get mortgages without a down payment. More exotic mortgages followed, including ones with no monthly payments for the first two years. Other mortgages required no documentation other than the say-so of the borrower. Absurd though these all were, the...
These families were, of course, conservative, or at a minimum traditional and nuclear, consisting of a heterosexual married couple and at least two kids living in a stand-alone home with a yard, a car or two and a multimedia room with a flat-screen television. The latter was a new addition to this 21st-century simulacrum of the 1950s "Leave It to Beaver" idyll. But the dream was the same.
Such a country would be more stable, Bush argued, and more prosperous. "America is a stronger country every single time a family moves into a home of their own," he said in October 2004. To achieve his vision, Bush pushed new policies encouraging homeownership, like the "zero-down-payment initiative," which was much as it sounds—a government-sponsored program that allowed people to get mortgages without a down payment. More exotic mortgages followed, including ones with no monthly payments for the first two years. Other mortgages required no documentation other than the say-so of the borrower. Absurd though these all were, they paled in comparison to the financial innovations that grew out of the mortgages—derivatives built on other derivatives, packaged and repackaged until no one could identify what they contained and how much they were, in fact, worth.
As we know by now, these instruments have brought the global financial system, improbably, to the brink of collapse. And as financial strains drive husbands and wives apart, Bush's ownership ideology may end up having the same effect on the stable nuclear families conservatives so badly wanted to foster.
The dream of a better society through homeownership didn't originate with George W. Bush. It's as American as Manifest Destiny. The Homestead Act in 1862 offered acres to anyone willing to brave the Western frontier. During Reconstruction, freed slaves were promised "40 acres and a mule." And after World War II, with Levittown and its cousins, affordable homes were a reward of victory. But until very recently, those hopes and dreams were connected to actual income and gainful employment. No longer.
The giddiness of the Bush years built on the promise of the New Economy era, a promise perfectly encapsulated by a 1999 billboard advertising a shiny new subdivision in Scroggins, Texas, filled with homes that most of their owners couldn't really afford: YES, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL! That dream took a sharp hit with the collapse of the Internet stock bubble in 2000-2001 and then with 9/11, both of which destroyed billions of dollars of wealth. But it came roaring back in 2002, encouraged by Bush's post-9/11 exhortation that Americans could do their patriotic duty by going shopping and paying lower taxes, even as government spending exploded. Shop they did, and homes they bought.
It's just sickening to see this carnage. It's also sickening to see those who don't have a clue of the realities and real world experience charged with coming up with the so called solutions. Folks like yourself can't grab onto any faith watching this play out, I'm sure.