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The word 'Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill; so what does it mean?

JoeBtfsplk 2012/03/14 19:26:44
Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

Dhimmitude -- What does it mean?

Obama used it in the health care bill.
Now isn't this interesting?
It is used in the health care law.

Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and yep, it exists.. It is a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.


ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States .
Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking", and "usury" and is thus banned.

Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.


How convenient.
So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance.
Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.



snopes.com: Health Insurance Exemptions
Apr 13, 2010 ... Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations ... The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ...
www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

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  • Lanna Neal 2012/07/03 00:21:27
    Lanna Neal
    +4
    The Healthcare.gov, page 107, has absolutely nothing that is quoted here. Where, who and why would someone make all this up and send links that are totally false all over the internet. If you don't like Obama, then just say that! Who is behind this website? We have enough to do as Americans to try and understand where the folks in D.C. are headed, then someone comes up with this kind of nonsense!!!!!

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  • libremeansfree56 2013/10/26 05:22:05
    libremeansfree56
    +1
    hey i just figured it out. ol' Ted Cruz is actually a latino plant! yup, he fooled them Tea Party folks into believing he was one of them when in fact he's just a dirty ol' Cuban like Castro. He is destroying the GOP from the inside! The Tea Party has no room for moderate Republicans and uncle Teddy is taking full advantage! How about him saying at Heritage Foundation's annual Jesse Helms celebration that America needs 100 more like ol' Jesse. Yep, check it out for yourself. America needs more openly racist Senators and Representatives? Why would Ted Cruz say something like this (US needs 100 like Jesse Helms comment) unless he is truly trying to keep latinos and other minorities from voting Republican? The man is a plant folks. Ya know Cruz is Spanish for Cross...as in double cross.
  • libremeansfree56 2013/10/26 05:04:03
    libremeansfree56
    Obama took my gun! ...no wait, here it is. Obama made America a muslim country and outlawed Christianity! ...oh. wait. no he didn't. my catholic church is still open. Obama sold us out to the Chinese! ...no wait, that was George Bush. Obama is just paying the interest. Obama told my granny to go away and die! ...no wait. granny just signed up for affordable care with the lowest priced privately owned insurance company. She has cancer and liver problems though so she must be crazy. Obama started spying on ordinary Americans with the NSA! no wait...Bush started it in 2006. Well anyway I'm sure there's some bad stuff on him that will be true. He lied about stopping his smoking! Impeach!
  • mark parks 2012/11/02 20:14:26
    mark parks
    +2
    I'm still trying to get a handle on which part of this health bill I find repulsive. The fact that middle america will fund the lions share of the cost of this bill or the fact that every,EVERY federal government official, including the first family, is exempt from it...
  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2012/09/02 20:40:56
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    NO IT'S NOT!

    Oh MY when will this internet falsehood STOP!
  • oldarmy1 iamthem... 2012/09/04 20:31:47
    oldarmy1
    +3
    Ya know, isn't it interesting that a bill that impacts every single American was admittedly not even read until passes. And you you wonder why there might be confusion with it? Total and complete fail!
  • iamthem... oldarmy1 2012/09/04 21:36:59
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    This isn't confusion.

    This is a lie.

    Considering that one can simply "Ctfl-F" and see if the word "dhimmitude" appears in the bill, there's no reason to think that people would be confused about whether it actually appears in the statute.
  • Carla 2012/08/29 15:27:08
    Carla
    +3
    Snopes.com is run by some old dude and his wife and they are Registered Democrats.. dont believe anything they print!!
  • alo.konsen 2012/08/28 03:06:53
  • Shelby Towe 2012/08/27 04:38:56
  • A Lil Wacked 2012/08/27 00:48:23
    A Lil Wacked
    +2
    Either way, he needs to go. His sympathetic wiles for them is sickening.
  • Phoenix... A Lil W... 2012/08/27 06:32:58
    Phoenix Oakley
    +3
    You are an idiot. Sit down and shut up. Your husband should know better than let you talk. You heathen whore!
    How's that for a true, real christian conservative response?
    That is what you endorse, when you make your ignorant and childish statement. Grow up.
    Sorry if my example of your endorsements offended you, but you offend yourself.
  • A'sad A Lil W... 2012/08/27 20:20:52
    A'sad
    +2
    I don't think that after the enslavement, rape, murder of millions of African,...The murdering of millions of native Indians, And white folks for hunderds of years of living off the blood of others, that It would be too much to recieve health care,..
  • alda.stout A'sad 2013/09/25 14:00:31
  • JoeBtfsplk A Lil W... 2012/08/28 02:13:46
    JoeBtfsplk
    So true!
  • Lanna Neal 2012/07/03 00:21:27
    Lanna Neal
    +4
    The Healthcare.gov, page 107, has absolutely nothing that is quoted here. Where, who and why would someone make all this up and send links that are totally false all over the internet. If you don't like Obama, then just say that! Who is behind this website? We have enough to do as Americans to try and understand where the folks in D.C. are headed, then someone comes up with this kind of nonsense!!!!!
  • JoeBtfsplk Lanna Neal 2012/07/03 02:46:38
    JoeBtfsplk
    turns out it may have been in the original draft.

    see comment/replies below
  • Phoenix... JoeBtfsplk 2012/08/27 06:36:06
    Phoenix Oakley
    +1
    That's like saying the Earth may have been flat... using "may have" is nothing more than an idiots argument.
  • vickie.... Lanna Neal 2012/08/26 20:01:10
    vickie.h.moore
    +8
    I really could care less if this exact wording is in the final draft that became law or not, it is the intention that bothers me and if you don't think Obama has this on his agenda, think again. He will do what ever it takes to appease the muslims because he is ONE! This tax to non- Christians doesn't surprise me, especially when Christians are getting taken to the verbal bank so to speak. We can't speak of God, pray at school games, heck now they say that a church that has been feeding the football team at a high school for years is now no longer able to do this -- at the church mind you, not at the school! Baloney, bull crap! Christians are coming into an age that they will be told that they can't practice their faith as they want but if you are anything but, anything goes! Mark my words, you may not believe this, but it will ha[[en!
  • ruthann... vickie.... 2012/08/27 03:44:51
    ruthann.anderson2
    I totally agree with you 100%, There is SO MUCH going on in DC, it eould make everyones heads spin, just try to vote him OUT!!
  • Phoenix... ruthann... 2012/08/27 06:36:45
    Phoenix Oakley
    +3
    You bitches are really retarded aren't you?
  • jimcochr Phoenix... 2012/08/30 17:35:43
    jimcochr
    +4
    So anyone who expresses an opinion you don't agree with can be verbally assauited - How old are you?
  • jgeorgi... Lanna Neal 2012/08/27 01:02:51
    jgeorgia2000
    +2
    The fact that non-Muslims are paying a fee or tax while Muslims do not is really a form of Dhimmitude. !!! That is the point of the article.
  • oldarmy1 Lanna Neal 2012/09/04 20:34:08
    oldarmy1
    +1
    Ok - I don't like Obama. And perhaps rumors and possible errors would have been avoided if Princess Pelosi had bothered to allow the bill to be read before voting on it. Stupidity reigns supreme.
  • Brad Smith 2012/04/16 14:51:38
    Brad Smith
    +2
    If you spent even half of the time researching your articles as you do formatting them with scary CAPS, you would know that absolutely none of this is true.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010...

    http://www.snopes.com/politic...
  • Lanna Neal Brad Smith 2012/07/03 00:26:29
    Lanna Neal
    +4
    Amen Brad!!!!
  • jesse.c... Brad Smith 2012/08/26 21:19:01
    jesse.caron.90
    +1
    Good job. This website's motto says it all when it comes to how conscientious it apparently is about disseminating dubious information.
  • ruthann... Brad Smith 2012/08/27 03:47:03
    ruthann.anderson2
    Bullcrap brad
  • Phoenix... ruthann... 2012/08/27 06:38:19
    Phoenix Oakley
    +1
    Nice comeback Ruthanne.... What kinda hillbilly name is that? So is your brother or your grandfather your husband?
  • Kel Phoenix... 2012/08/27 17:51:43
    Kel
    Typical ignorant lib. A vile attack on a person for their view instead of having a real or valid opinion on the article. Ruthann-you have a beautiful name and stick with your opinion. :)
  • Kel Brad Smith 2012/08/27 17:47:05
    Kel
    To Brad. Haven't you figured out that snopes.com is funded by Soros. I think YOU should do some research. This is real. Quit turning a blind eye to creeping sharia,you boiling frogs.
  • kiwimac 2012/03/25 10:51:04
    kiwimac
    +1
    According to your Snopes link the bill does NOT contain the word 'Dhimmitude.'
  • JoeBtfsplk kiwimac 2012/03/25 11:06:28
    JoeBtfsplk
    +1
    Oh well - what's a good propagandist to do?

    Here's a tip.

    This won't be the first or last time for you. If you've been awake during the average 'awake' hours we are accustomed to you had to have noticed a similar situation all over the US.

    I admit to not word checking - but being in a hurry, I relied on the implied meaning rather than the literal.

    A thousand pardons sahib, and may the fleas of a thousand camels nest in my armpits for my punishment.
  • ruthann... JoeBtfsplk 2012/08/27 03:48:34
    ruthann.anderson2
    Stupid crap
  • Phoenix... ruthann... 2012/08/27 06:44:10
  • ad101867 ruthann... 2012/08/27 23:57:38
    ad101867
    +2
    Ruthann, what's with these useless, nonthinking responses...?
  • Kel kiwimac 2012/08/27 17:54:29
    Kel
    +1
    You think just because they don't use the word,it's not going to take place? Read the definition of dhimmnitude and see if it applies. Duh
  • kiwimac Kel 2012/08/28 22:45:51
    kiwimac
    I know what the word means. FIND IT IN THE BILL, you won't and you can't even find the concept there.
  • Tea in the Harbor 2012/03/14 20:13:35
    Tea in the Harbor
    +1
    This silliness comes from a conservative chain email that was debunked in 2010. Here's what they found, followed by a link to Factcheck's full article.

    FULL ANSWER

    In our article "More Malarkey About Health Care," we wrote that some religious groups may indeed be considered exempt from the requirement to have health insurance. The law defines exempt groups using the definition from 26 U.S. Code section 1402(g)(1), which describes the religious groups currently considered exempt from Social Security payroll taxes. Eligible sects must forbid any payout in the event of death, disability, old age or retirement, including Social Security and Medicare.

    Since we posted our article, we’ve obtained a list through the Freedom of Information Act of all the groups that have successfully applied for exemptions from payroll taxes. (We have posted the Excel file here.) The overwhelming majority of them are explicitly Anabaptist — that is, Mennonite, Amish or Hutterite. Those that don’t specify their denomination are still explicitly Christian. Having gone through the list, we can say with certainty that no Muslim group, and indeed no non-Christian group, has ever qualified for an exemption under the statute used to define exempt religious groups in the health care law.

    Nor are they likel...





    This silliness comes from a conservative chain email that was debunked in 2010. Here's what they found, followed by a link to Factcheck's full article.

    FULL ANSWER

    In our article "More Malarkey About Health Care," we wrote that some religious groups may indeed be considered exempt from the requirement to have health insurance. The law defines exempt groups using the definition from 26 U.S. Code section 1402(g)(1), which describes the religious groups currently considered exempt from Social Security payroll taxes. Eligible sects must forbid any payout in the event of death, disability, old age or retirement, including Social Security and Medicare.

    Since we posted our article, we’ve obtained a list through the Freedom of Information Act of all the groups that have successfully applied for exemptions from payroll taxes. (We have posted the Excel file here.) The overwhelming majority of them are explicitly Anabaptist — that is, Mennonite, Amish or Hutterite. Those that don’t specify their denomination are still explicitly Christian. Having gone through the list, we can say with certainty that no Muslim group, and indeed no non-Christian group, has ever qualified for an exemption under the statute used to define exempt religious groups in the health care law.

    Nor are they likely to want to, says Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which opposes discrimination and defamation against Muslims. "I’ve never even heard it brought up as an issue," Hooper told us. "I have health insurance. We give health insurance to our employees. Every Muslim group I know of does the same thing." Hooper told us that he has seen some Muslims raise religious objections to life insurance, but not health insurance, and that, in fact, providing health coverage is very much in line with Islamic ideals of social justice.

    As for "dhimmitude," it’s a politically charged academic concept, not a tenet of Muslim faith. The term was coined by scholar Bat Ye’or to describe the condition of the "dhimmis," protected non-Muslims living in Muslim empires starting in the 7th century. Dhimmi populations, Ye’or says, were allowed by their lands’ Muslim conquerors to keep property and practice their faith, as long as they paid a poll tax. It is Ye’or’s assertion that the condition of dhimmitude still persists in countries under shari’a law, and that, furthermore, it is spreading worldwide. In particular, she says, Europeans are accepting a state of dhimmitude and moving toward becoming "Eurabia." This position is controversial, and Ye’or is not secretive about her political commitments. For instance, she is a vocal supporter of Geert Wilders, the Dutch politician who was once banned from the United Kingdom because of his inflammatory anti-Islam views. For the e-mail to present "dhimmitude" as an established Muslim value rather than a scholarly concept from an author with open political commitments is misleading.

    Finally, the e-mail repeats one other claim we’ve debunked before. It says that "I … will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax." This is false. The House version of the bill left open the possibility of criminal penalties for deliberately evading a tax for not having health insurance, but the Senate version did not, nor did the final law.

    http://factcheck.org/2010/05/...
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  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2012/03/14 19:43:52
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +3
    It's actually amazing that you cited to snopes.com here...I don't know if you're not looking into the information clearly, or if you are being intentionally misleading...but the snopes site states, flat out, that the claim that dhimmitude appears in the bill, or that there is an exemption for Muslims (as opposed to religion) is COMPLETELY FALSE.

    It's telling that you don't cite to the actual healthcare bill. Here's page 107 - plus links. Show me the word:

    (3) ELIGIBILITY AND AMOUNT OF TAX CREDIT OR REDUCED
    COST-SHARING.—In the case of an enrollee with respect to whom
    a premium tax credit or reduced cost-sharing under section
    36B of such Code or section 1402 is being claimed, the following
    information:
    (A) INFORMATION REGARDING INCOME AND FAMILY
    SIZE.—The information described in section 6103(l)(21) for
    the taxable year ending with or within the second calendar
    year preceding the calendar year in which the plan year
    begins.
    (B) CHANGES IN CIRCUMSTANCES.—The information
    described in section 1412(b)(2), including information with
    respect to individuals who were not required to file an
    income tax return for the taxable year described in
    subparagraph (A) or individuals who experienced changes
    in marital status or family size or significant reductions
    in income.
    (4) EMPLOYER-S...









































    It's actually amazing that you cited to snopes.com here...I don't know if you're not looking into the information clearly, or if you are being intentionally misleading...but the snopes site states, flat out, that the claim that dhimmitude appears in the bill, or that there is an exemption for Muslims (as opposed to religion) is COMPLETELY FALSE.

    It's telling that you don't cite to the actual healthcare bill. Here's page 107 - plus links. Show me the word:

    (3) ELIGIBILITY AND AMOUNT OF TAX CREDIT OR REDUCED
    COST-SHARING.—In the case of an enrollee with respect to whom
    a premium tax credit or reduced cost-sharing under section
    36B of such Code or section 1402 is being claimed, the following
    information:
    (A) INFORMATION REGARDING INCOME AND FAMILY
    SIZE.—The information described in section 6103(l)(21) for
    the taxable year ending with or within the second calendar
    year preceding the calendar year in which the plan year
    begins.
    (B) CHANGES IN CIRCUMSTANCES.—The information
    described in section 1412(b)(2), including information with
    respect to individuals who were not required to file an
    income tax return for the taxable year described in
    subparagraph (A) or individuals who experienced changes
    in marital status or family size or significant reductions
    in income.
    (4) EMPLOYER-SPONSORED COVERAGE.—In the case of an
    enrollee with respect to whom eligibility for a premium tax
    credit under section 36B of such Code or cost-sharing reduction
    under section 1402 is being established on the basis that the
    enrollee’s (or related individual’s) employer is not treated under
    section 36B(c)(2)(C) of such Code as providing minimum essential
    coverage or affordable minimum essential coverage, the
    following information:
    (A) The name, address, and employer identification
    number (if available) of the employer.
    (B) Whether the enrollee or individual is a full-time
    employee and whether the employer provides such minimum
    essential coverage.
    (C) If the employer provides such minimum essential
    coverage, the lowest cost option for the enrollee’s or individual’s
    enrollment status and the enrollee’s or individual’s
    required contribution (within the meaning of section
    5000A(e)(1)(B) of such Code) under the employer-sponsored
    plan.
    (D) If an enrollee claims an employer’s minimum essential
    coverage is unaffordable, the information described
    in paragraph (3).
    If an enrollee changes employment or obtains additional
    employment while enrolled in a qualified health plan for which
    such credit or reduction is allowed, the enrollee shall notify
    the Exchange of such change or additional employment and
    provide the information described in this paragraph with
    respect to the new employer.
    (5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.—
    In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption
    certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement
    or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following
    information:
    (A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption
    based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt
    religious sect or division, as a member of a health care
    sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible
    for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary
    shall prescribe.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/...

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/...
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  • JoeBtfsplk iamthem... 2012/03/14 20:07:13
    JoeBtfsplk
    +2
    New Word For The Day – “Dhimmitude” – What Does It Mean?

    Obama used it in the health care bill. It was specifically spelled out in one of the original drafts of the ObamaCare bill (page 107) but was taken out after negative fallout from those who actually read the bill.

    Now isn’t this interesting?


    I may have spoken too quickly, but as a draft there is evidence. Thanks for pointing that out.

    I don't usually use Snopes as a source. It was forwarded to me.

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