The Wild Conspiracy Theory Driving The Fast And Furious Investigation
ProudProgressive
2012/06/24 13:45:57
While the birthers have cemented their place in the delusional hall of fame, a new contestant has appeared that might just give them a run for their money. This may be the single most delusional lie the Right Wing has come up with.
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The Wild Conspiracy Theory Driving The Fast And Furious Investigation
By Annie-Rose Strasser
Jun 22, 2012
Here is theory that some Congressional Republicans believe: The Obama Administration intentionally handed over automatic weapons to Mexican drug cartels, who they knew would commit violent acts, because they wanted to scare Americans into supporting stricter gun laws.
That supposed series of events has now led Congress to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt.
Holder is caught up in a scandal over what happened during Operation Fast and Furious, one in a series of efforts started under former President Bush, in which firearms owned by the U.S. government are intentionally sold to criminals with the hopes that they can be traced back, and criminal activity can be monitored. One such firearm turned up at the crime scene where border patrol agent Brian Terry was killed.
Republicans cite the case as a national security issue, but they've simultaneously turned it into an indictment over what they believe is a conspiracy aimed at taking away their own firearms. They argue that this was all a ploy to expose how dangerous guns can be. Here are the facts you should know about the conspiracy, and who's behind it:
The man who started the conspiracy theory also rallied people to break congressional windows. Mike Vanderboegh, a man who once called for militias to break the windows of members of Congress because of the passage of the Affordable Care Act, started this conspiracy theory. Rachel Maddow uncovered that Vanderboegh has been encouraging members of Congress to embrace the theory.
Major Republicans, including Darrell Issa, endorse this conspiracy theory. Among those are Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who is Chair of the House Oversight Committee and is heading up the investigation of Eric Holder. In an interview on FOX, Issa said, "very clearly, they made a crisis, and they're using this crisis to somehow take away or limit people's Second Amendment rights." He also pushed the theory at an NRA convention. But Issa isn't the only one who is buying in: former Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich just two days ago agreed with the theory. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), and many other Republicans have voiced support for this theory too.
The NRA is driving the conspiracy theory paranoia though ads. The National Rifle Association is furthering the paranoia as a way to rally gun owners by running advertisements and a petition calling on President Obama to fire Eric Holder. The ads don't specifically mention the gun control conspiracy, but the Executive Director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action is a full-throttle conspiracy believer. The NRA also threatened members of Congress who voted on the contempt charge yesterday, saying that a vote against contempt would reflect poorly on that member's pro-gun ratings.
Conspiracy theorists blame Holder for a new gun law he didn't make. Even if one were to believe the vast conspiracy theory, a linchpin in the theorists' argument is based on a false premise. They say that recently Holder ordered the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) to report anyone who bought more than one large gun in five day as a way to track American gun owners. In reality, ATF made a request about reporting gun purchases and the Justice Department only approved it after a delay.
Issa defended Bush for the same thing of which he is accusing Holder. Issa has been tearing apart Holder for not wanting to hand over private communications from the Justice Department that could compromise ongoing criminal investigations. But when George Bush refused to do the same thing in 2007, Issa blasted the move as a "political witch hunt."
Last year, the Vice President of the NRA said that there is "a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment." This conspiracy theory feeds directly into that sentiment. But there is absolutely no evidence that the President has any intention of tightening gun laws. In fact, he's loosening regulations on firearm exports.
Article excerpt follows:
The Wild Conspiracy Theory Driving The Fast And Furious Investigation
By Annie-Rose Strasser
Jun 22, 2012
Here is theory that some Congressional Republicans believe: The Obama Administration intentionally handed over automatic weapons to Mexican drug cartels, who they knew would commit violent acts, because they wanted to scare Americans into supporting stricter gun laws.
That supposed series of events has now led Congress to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt.
Holder is caught up in a scandal over what happened during Operation Fast and Furious, one in a series of efforts started under former President Bush, in which firearms owned by the U.S. government are intentionally sold to criminals with the hopes that they can be traced back, and criminal activity can be monitored. One such firearm turned up at the crime scene where border patrol agent Brian Terry was killed.
Republicans cite the case as a national security issue, but they've simultaneously turned it into an indictment over what they believe is a conspiracy aimed at taking away their own firearms. They argue that this was all a ploy to expose how dangerous guns can be. Here are the facts you should know about the conspiracy, and who's behind it:
The man who started the conspiracy theory also rallied people to break congressional windows. Mike Vanderboegh, a man who once called for militias to break the windows of members of Congress because of the passage of the Affordable Care Act, started this conspiracy theory. Rachel Maddow uncovered that Vanderboegh has been encouraging members of Congress to embrace the theory.
Major Republicans, including Darrell Issa, endorse this conspiracy theory. Among those are Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who is Chair of the House Oversight Committee and is heading up the investigation of Eric Holder. In an interview on FOX, Issa said, "very clearly, they made a crisis, and they're using this crisis to somehow take away or limit people's Second Amendment rights." He also pushed the theory at an NRA convention. But Issa isn't the only one who is buying in: former Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich just two days ago agreed with the theory. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), and many other Republicans have voiced support for this theory too.
The NRA is driving the conspiracy theory paranoia though ads. The National Rifle Association is furthering the paranoia as a way to rally gun owners by running advertisements and a petition calling on President Obama to fire Eric Holder. The ads don't specifically mention the gun control conspiracy, but the Executive Director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action is a full-throttle conspiracy believer. The NRA also threatened members of Congress who voted on the contempt charge yesterday, saying that a vote against contempt would reflect poorly on that member's pro-gun ratings.
Conspiracy theorists blame Holder for a new gun law he didn't make. Even if one were to believe the vast conspiracy theory, a linchpin in the theorists' argument is based on a false premise. They say that recently Holder ordered the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) to report anyone who bought more than one large gun in five day as a way to track American gun owners. In reality, ATF made a request about reporting gun purchases and the Justice Department only approved it after a delay.
Issa defended Bush for the same thing of which he is accusing Holder. Issa has been tearing apart Holder for not wanting to hand over private communications from the Justice Department that could compromise ongoing criminal investigations. But when George Bush refused to do the same thing in 2007, Issa blasted the move as a "political witch hunt."
Last year, the Vice President of the NRA said that there is "a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment." This conspiracy theory feeds directly into that sentiment. But there is absolutely no evidence that the President has any intention of tightening gun laws. In fact, he's loosening regulations on firearm exports.
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sockpuppet 2012/06/24 13:50:50+9No... it was just another botched government project, like Waco or Randy Weaver. Had this happened on a Conservative's watch, the Left would be all over it... as they've demonstrated so often in the past.





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1. Holder did not lie under oath.
2. Executive Privilege applies to the ENTIRE executive branch of the United States Government, including of course the Department of Justice. It is not in any way restricted to Presidential communications. It is physically impossible for any one individual, even President Obama, to be familiar with every document produced by the entire executive branch. We're talking about literally millions of documents a year. Anything within the executive branch that the President believes should be made confidential because of the potential damage to national security or for other reasons is subject to executive privilege.
3. One border agent died, not two. His name was Brian Terry.
4. The President has never told the border patrol to "loosen up" on immigration. That's why border crossings are at their lowest level in well over a decade.
5. I didn't call it a conspiracy. It's the witch hunters who are upset with the fact that Holder is trying to protect the voting rights of millions of American citizens that have dreamt up this conspiracy theory.
6. The birther nonsense was over four years ago. Get over it. The black guy won, and you're going to have to live with that for another five years.
Why is the right believing Romney's current stance on gun control anyway? Because he joined the NRA? From the time he ran for the Senate against Kennedy in '94 he was all anti-gun. In 1994, Romney Backed Assault Weapons Ban and the Brady Bill, boasting “That’s Not Going To Make Me The Hero Of The NRA.”“[Romney] said he will take stands that put him at odds with some traditional ultra-conservative groups, and cited his support for the assault rifle ban and the Brady gun control law. ‘That’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA,’ he said. ‘I don’t line up with a lot of special interest groups.’”(Andrew Miga,“Mitt Rejects Right-Wing Aid,”Boston Herald , 9/23/...
Why is the right believing Romney's current stance on gun control anyway? Because he joined the NRA? From the time he ran for the Senate against Kennedy in '94 he was all anti-gun. In 1994, Romney Backed Assault Weapons Ban and the Brady Bill, boasting “That’s Not Going To Make Me The Hero Of The NRA.”“[Romney] said he will take stands that put him at odds with some traditional ultra-conservative groups, and cited his support for the assault rifle ban and the Brady gun control law. ‘That’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA,’ he said. ‘I don’t line up with a lot of special interest groups.’”(Andrew Miga,“Mitt Rejects Right-Wing Aid,”Boston Herald , 9/23/94) Romney In 1994: 5-Day Waiting Period Won’t Have “Massive Effect On Crime But … Will Have A Positive Effect.”“The candidate reiterated his support for an assault weapons ban contained in Congress’crime bill, and the Brady law which imposes a five-day waiting period on handgun purchases. ‘I don’t think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect,’ Romney said.”(Joe Battenfeld, “Herald Panel Grills Romney On Crime,”Boston Herald , 8/1/94) As Governor, Romney Quadrupled Gun Licensing Fees And Vowed Not To “Chip Away” At Tough Gun Laws.
More evidence that Romney will say anything to get votes.
I cant wait to see the moronic blogs from you clowns attempting to incriminate ROMNEY in the ARMING OF THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS that 0WEbama and HOLDER have done.
You LWNJs will do ANYTHING you can.....But its not going to work.
If there is nothing to hide there would be no need for EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.
You must agree that by using EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE 0WEbama and Holder have something to fear. The big problem with that is it does not cover Holders ass only 0WEbamas.
How convenient at ELECTION TIME to wave the EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. Holder is going to have to come clean, hes not going to have a choice.
Do you still have a THRILL up your leg too?
I checked the fox news site,
Contempt Vote Looms as 'Fast & Furious' Talks Fail
FBI rescues 79 kids held as sex slaves in US
(are they foreigners?)
Army drops universal camo plan after billions spent
What am I supposed to be looking for?
“No, we don’t,” Mr. Issa said. “And I hope they don’t get involved. I hope this stays at Justice. And I hope that Justice cooperates, because ultimately, Justice lied to the American people.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...
Issa's statement about the president spoken on Fox News occurs on minute 15 of this video.
http://youtu.be/MwrrD24oTzo
February 17, 2012 7:53 AM
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Tell MEXICO that it is a conspiracy.
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