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The Unemployment Rate Is Down to 8.3 Percent: Are You Hopeful?

The Big Question 2012/02/03 21:00:36
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  • ☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sher... 2012/02/04 02:06:20 (edited)
    No
    ☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sheriff!!
    +30
    No because they are using damn monopoly money to do it..I guess people never heard of inflation? Look at the gas prices and the price of food! It is a damn facade and some of Odumbasses fuzzy government math!!

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  • Michaelene 2012/03/24 16:00:29
    No
    Michaelene
    Didn't Obama promise that unemployment would never go above 8%? Why should anyone waste their hope after being hopeless since the stimulus failed by fraud.
  • GINGERBREAD 2012/03/24 15:51:57
    No
    GINGERBREAD
    +1
    Because it is all manufactured figures. As the old saying goes, FIGURES CAN LIE & LIARS CAN FIGURE. Everything coming out of this administration are manufactured figures. Truth be told, we have 12% to 15% unemployment
  • Dan (Politicaly Incorrect) 2012/03/24 09:31:21
    No
    Dan (Politicaly Incorrect)
    Unemployment is higher than that. What isn't being counted are those that quit looking for work. According to U6 unemployment is more like 15 percent.
  • texasred 2012/03/03 23:08:49
    No
    texasred
    Ever heard of numbers being pencil-whippable? Well, in this case, they certainly are. Actual unemployment, which includes those that aren't looking any longer, is closer to 11.5%.

    "One does not need to be a rocket scientist to grasp the fudging the BLS has been doing every month for years now in order to bring the unemployment rate lower: the BLS constantly lowers the labor force participation rate as more and more people "drop out" of the labor force for one reason or another."

    There are some excellent charts providing support of this analysis:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news...
  • JAA 2012/02/14 22:13:22 (edited)
    No
    JAA
    +1
    People (Democrats) are being led down the garden path, thinking that unemployment is getting better, but with no understanding of the many who have dropped off the unemployment tax payroll, those who have had to go to half-time or part-time work just to feed their families, & those who have attached themselves permanently to the government teat through food stamps, Medicaid or Social Security. It's estimated that the unemployment rate is actually closer to 20%. Obama lies, America fries.
  • Mr. Won... JAA 2012/02/14 22:41:42
    Mr. Wonderful
    Guess you forgot in the last months of Bush's term the economy was hemmorging something like 750,000 jobs a month. To make an anology when Obama was sworn into office it was like stepping on the deck of the Tiantic after it already sunk half way into the ocean. Yet everything caused by the prior captian running straight into the iceberg, is the new guy's fault. Yeah, stupid right wingers always "think" like that. LOL!
  • JAA Mr. Won... 2012/02/15 20:36:08 (edited)
    JAA
    +1
    Please tell me what 10x damage of the Titanic looks like, because that's what your Savior has done to this country. He's Bush on Steroids, Idiot left wingers are generallly not good with math, particularly when it comes to economics, & unlike you, we don't think any of this is a laughing matter. btw, new numbers out show 9% overall unemployment, w/ more people going on food stamps since the Great Depression. I thought your love interest & Savior said he'd at least cut our deficit in half . . . the guy has quadrupled the debt & STILL hasn't given us a budget proposal that even his own people think is worth the paper it's written on. Now who's stupid?
  • Mr. Won... JAA 2012/02/15 21:13:12
    Mr. Wonderful
    Will you ignorant right wingers EVER grow up? Who's stupid? You are if you blame the president exclusively for everything that isn't right. Ever hear of the 1st branch of government called Congress? Well have you Bubba? Especially the House, controlled by republicans where all money bills are suppose to originate.

    All they've done is say no, no and no again. So if no jobs are created, blame Obama, right? Are you right wingers really that stupid? Yeah, obviously you are since you spew the same crap over and over.

    How many jobs bills have the a-hole republicans said no to already, I lost count. That you see would create jobs and republicans rather see unemployment high because these a-hole republicans think it heps them politically. Am I going too fast for a dummy like to to keep following along? I tried to dumb it down to your level of low intelligence. Really, I tried.

    Obama isn't my savior, you ignorant putz. Another typical stupid right wing insult. You're all a bunch of a-holes. Really. Your own words hang you.

    Oh, one more thing you stupid right wing toad, much of the increase in the deficit is the result of on going BUSH programs... like two unfunded wars BUSH started and lets not forget the cost of the 10% tax break the rich enjoy. There's another close to two trillion dollar hole thanks to Bush.

    See how easy it is to use FACTS to piss all over right wingers?

    Real easy boy, real, real easy.
  • JAA Mr. Won... 2012/02/16 02:57:37 (edited)
    JAA
    +2
    Honey, I'm a female, not a "bubba". Your name-calling reveals not only that you're a Neanderthal, but also the level of your intelligence. When one has difficulty w/ vocabulary, filling posts w/ ad hominems is all they've got.

    You have shown yourself to be unworthy of a conversation on this, or any, topic that requires a thoughtful mind. I'm glad my vote in November will make yours null & void. Liberalism is still a mental disorder, & if they would spend the time & money trying to come up with a cure for it, rather than focusing on telling people how to live their lives, what light bulbs they should use, that the Constitution is filth to them, then we MIGHT have a chance to keep our country.

    See how easy it is to use TRUTH to piss all over demented, miscreant, godless left wingers? Real easy little girlie man, real, real easy! ;-)
  • Mr. Won... JAA 2012/02/16 03:56:40
    Mr. Wonderful
    What is calling everyone honey or sweetie mean you bimbo?
  • JAA Mr. Won... 2012/02/16 04:00:57
    JAA
    +2
    I'm from Texas, & that's how we address each other here. Perhaps you should become familiar w/ your country. Now, regarding the topic at hand, & if I get another nasty-ass comment from you, then we're done.

    "When President Obama was asking for our votes in 2008, he told us his budget policy would involve a "net spending cut." In fact, he said precisely that during a nationally televised presidential debate with John McCain. In 2008, federal spending totaled $2.983 trillion. But federal spending for 2012 in the budget the President just released on Monday is projected to total $3.795 trillion, an increase of over 27 percent during his first term alone, up another $193 billion from the last year. In the budget the President released on Monday, spending was projected to soar by 2022 to $5.820 trillion, the highest spending in world history. Over the next 10 years, federal spending, with all of President Obama's blather about spending cuts, will total $47 trillion… under the President's own budget!"
    http://spectator.org/archives...
  • Mr. Won... JAA 2012/02/16 04:38:06
    Mr. Wonderful
    That you are from Texas explains much. So is Bush and Perry. Got to be either the summer heat, or something in the water.

    Explain what the right wing obsession with Obama is. I've never seen so much hate for a president... oh wait a minute, you right wingers treated Clinton the same way. Only now it seems racist. Right wingers are petty, loud, often mean spirited, selfish, crude, lude, homophobic, shallow and brain damaged most of the time. If some bimbo like you doesn't reply to me any longer, I'll be thrilled. Now lets see if you keep your word.
  • Mr. Won... JAA 2012/02/16 03:57:41
    Mr. Wonderful
    You know that have treatments now for your mental disorder.
  • JAA Mr. Won... 2012/02/16 04:01:33
    JAA
    +2
    Yes, and I was hoping you'd take the hint. As a registered nurse, I'm quite aware of how helpful it can be to your type.
  • Mr. Won... JAA 2012/02/16 04:40:18
    Mr. Wonderful
    My type? Good looking, highly intelligent, well educated successful people like me don't do drugs, whine like six year olds, and hope for a president to fail. Your type, right wingers do. You're dismissed honey.
  • BARRY0619 Mr. Won... 2012/02/16 20:38:21 (edited)
    BARRY0619
    +1
    Here are the real facts about Obama's "accomplishments":
    1) Obama hires marxists and communists and these types of people absolutely love control. Here's a list of characters he surrounds himself with: Anita Dunn, the White House Communications Director praises Mao Tse Tung, a well-known communist. She said that Mao Tse Tung and Mother Theresa are her favorite philosophers. ( she resigned) He hired Van Jones as a czar and Jones is an avowed communist. ( he resigned) Here’s some more of a list of shady characters who are/were in Obama’s inner circle.



    Tony Rezko, Allison Davis, Raila Odinga, Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Bernardine Dohrn, William Ayers, Saul Alinksy, George Soros, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, Robert Creamer, Rev. Jeremiah Wright in whom’s church he sat for 20 years and did not know he was a racist, Louis Farrakhan, and Mohammar Kaddafy just to name a few.



    2) And his choice of radical czars?

    http://www.rense.com/general8...





    3) And his destruction of our economy?



    On Nov. 4, after Barack Obama clinched the White House, the market closed at 9,625.28.



    In mid-morning trading , the day President Obama signed his massive Generational Theft Act into law and a day before he unveiled a massive new mortgage entitlement, the Dow dropped to to 7,606.53. Imagine if President Bush had presided o...







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    Here are the real facts about Obama's "accomplishments":
    1) Obama hires marxists and communists and these types of people absolutely love control. Here's a list of characters he surrounds himself with: Anita Dunn, the White House Communications Director praises Mao Tse Tung, a well-known communist. She said that Mao Tse Tung and Mother Theresa are her favorite philosophers. ( she resigned) He hired Van Jones as a czar and Jones is an avowed communist. ( he resigned) Here’s some more of a list of shady characters who are/were in Obama’s inner circle.



    Tony Rezko, Allison Davis, Raila Odinga, Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Bernardine Dohrn, William Ayers, Saul Alinksy, George Soros, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, Robert Creamer, Rev. Jeremiah Wright in whom’s church he sat for 20 years and did not know he was a racist, Louis Farrakhan, and Mohammar Kaddafy just to name a few.



    2) And his choice of radical czars?

    http://www.rense.com/general8...





    3) And his destruction of our economy?



    On Nov. 4, after Barack Obama clinched the White House, the market closed at 9,625.28.



    In mid-morning trading , the day President Obama signed his massive Generational Theft Act into law and a day before he unveiled a massive new mortgage entitlement, the Dow dropped to to 7,606.53. Imagine if President Bush had presided over a 2,000-point stock market drop in the same time period — during the first few months of his presidency, Dems would be shouting from the mountain tops. I will also provide one brief example of Obama vs Bush and their stimulus plans and how the markets reacted:







    Bush: From March 2003 to October 2003, the S&P; 500 went from 835 to 1034 or 23.8%.







    Obama: From January 2009 through July 2009, the S&P; went from 932 to 879 or -5.2%.







    ****Let us also compare spending. consider that from Jan. 20, 2001, to Jan. 20, 2009, the debt held by the public grew $3 trillion under Mr. Bush—to $6.3 trillion from $3.3 trillion at a time when the national economy grew as well. By comparison, from the day Mr. Obama took office last year to the end of the current fiscal year, according to the Office of Management and Budget, the debt held by the public will grow by $3.3 trillion.



    In 20 months, President Obama will add as much debt as President Bush ran up in eight years.







    Dems must like the change so far huh?



    ****In response to the deficit:



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    ****The Obama Administration’s printing of money has been absolutely unprecedented in U.S. history. He thinks that printing money is the way to pay off debt when it will undoubtedly lead to hyperinflation. ( very simply put hyperinflation means prices go up as the dollar loses it's value)



    Since September, the 'monetary base,' which is the measure of currency plus bank reserves, has doubled from about $850 billion to $1.7 trillion.



    ****He said if we pass his stupid stimulus, unemployment will not go above 8%. As of January , it is still 8.3% according to bls.



    http://www.bls.gov/news.relea...



    Unemployment hasn't been below 8% since it was passed. Everyone knows it's a payback to unions that got him elected. Obama also knows that most of the money will come back to his campaign via union dues.



    ****One major point to remember. the REAL unemployment rate is 22.5%, The BLS no longer considers as “unemployed” those workers without jobs who have not looked for work in the past year because they feel no jobs are available.****



    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/re...


    ****Obama economic record: obA



    ****He has run all over the world apologizing for our great nation. This should make all patriotic Americans disapprove of Obama's performance.



    ****I guess when Michelle said for the first time in her adult life she's proud of her country is okay with you?







    ****I guess it's also okay with you that Obama said in one of his stupid books that he gravitated toward his Marxist professors. Here are some Marxist Obama policies:



    http://hallicino.hubpages.com...



    ****More ways Obama is destroying our country:



    http://www.freedomwatchusa.or...

    ***** 10 more ways Obama is destroying America:
    1. He's running up crushing federal debt at a level unprecedented in American history. We are talking trillions upon trillions of dollars in debt. This ensures the the future will bring ruinous taxes, runaway inflation, or eventual financial collapse.

    2. He has endorsed and benefitted from systematic violation of election and campaign funding laws. His election saw widespread voter registration fraud from his allies at ACORN and systematic acceptance of dubious campaign donations by disabling normal credit card verification procedures for online donations, allowing donations to be made from foreign donors and from donors using fictitious names. This in turned allowed donors to skirt donation limits if they wished, simply by using bogus names. In the "stimulus" bill, Obama has funded ACORN and similar groups to the tune of billions.

    3. Obama has endorsed, and will continue to foster, the entitlement mentality, playing the victim, and mob rule. A typical moment was his warning to bank executives that it was only his administration standing between executives and the mobs with pitchforks. Not mentioned was the fact that Obama's pals at ACORN were the number one wielders of the pitchforks. Obama is also ushering in socialism at a breathtaking pace. Soon, no major expense in a normal human life will be paid for by the individual. Every major expense, from housing to advanced education to medical care, will be paid for by Big Brother. Incentives to work will be destroyed for both the "rich" and the "poor." We will all soon be poorer as a result.

    4. Obama is gearing up to politicize and manipulate the Census to an unprecedented degree. Given the Obama campaign's and Obama administration's other manipulations, I believe it is extremely unlikely that Obama will not end up overcounting "homeless," illegal aliens, and other Democratic Party interest groups. The result will be to unlawfully shift power to blue states, cementing control of the nation in the hands of statists.

    5. Obama is trampling, penalizing, micromanaging, and destroying American business to an unprecedented degree, ahd he's just getting started. Already we see major automakers about to fail (of course, this is primarily the result of the power labor unions have wielded in the auto industry), we see banks failing and being taken over, and we see restaurants, retailers, and companies in the construction business struggling and failing. To reiterate: Obama is just getting started. It is a terrible time to own a business in America.

    6. Obama is lending aid, money, and support to tyrannies and terrorists. From getting chummy with Hugo Chavez to releasing dangerous GITMO terrorists to handing almost a billion dollars to Palestinian terrorists, Obama has yet to meet a terrorist or tyrant he doesn't seem to like.

    7. Obama is discounting and attempting to undermine America's Christian and Judeo-Christian culture. By constantly treating Christianity as the moral equivalent of atheism and Islam in his public prounouncements -- and by proclaiming that America is no longer a Christian nation (even though about 80% of Americans still believe in the resurrection of Christ), Obama is turning his back on America's great strength.

    8. Obama is retroactively criminalizing innocent behavior and excusing unlawful behavior. He appoints tax cheats to his administration and then treats AIG executives as criminals, retroactively imposing 90% taxes on bonuses. He frees GITMO terrorists who tried to kill Americans, and then threatens to prosecute lawyers who gave legal opinions on torture -- and broke no laws in doing so.

    9. He is rapidly ceding the Middle East back to terrorists and tyrants. He is trying to cozy up to Iran but, more importantly, he is withdrawing troops from Iraq even as violence escalates, risking the loss of that country in the infancy of its democracy. He is moving too slowly and ineffectually in Afghanistan as dangers grow in Pakistan. He is letting the Taliban gain strength to the point where it now threatens to take over Pakistan and its nuclear arsenal.

    10. I've saved the worst for last. Obama has already reduced funding for missile defense and threatens to eliminate the program entirely. Yet missile defense is the only potential defense against nuclear missile threats from a growing number of terrorists and tyrants around the world. This deriliction of duty on Obama's part could result in the deaths of millions.

    http://rightwingnews.com/mt33...



    **** He lies constantly:

    http://youtu.be/UErR7i2onW0

    http://youtu.be/REnjFK5c6w4

    http://youtu.be/KGwI53Kxr7M

    http://youtu.be/msGQ1RBPXew

    http://youtu.be/ScWbGy3dDvw

    http://youtu.be/-zi3uWMcumA



    Some more lies:

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/...



    Believe me, this is just a short list of his lies.



    ****Here's some of your fellow stupid uneducated Obama supporters

    http://youtu.be/rgfA2b9YSag

    http://youtu.be/z8lXEY8O0tQ

    http://youtu.be/e_JJLLfTR8I

    http://youtu.be/wYajeEfe3PU

    http://youtu.be/gCXot2HQT00

    http://youtu.be/-5YrS2pLfMs



    ****Obama is absolutely clueless

    http://youtu.be/ap2Cg_FDRy4

    http://youtu.be/K5R6kVry4_c

    http://youtu.be/Qt6C1Sl3ZrU

    http://youtu.be/t4-AKcH3eC8

    http://youtu.be/p9hZpJp7U3Y

    http://youtu.be/DHkGIR1xb5E



    ****Some Obamaisms

    http://politicalhumor.about.c...





    And everyone ON THE LEFT talks about how intelligent he is...LOL!





    Obama supports the Occutards at Wallstreet. Ya know people like this:



















    Other "neat" things about the Occutards that Obama supports:



    tea



    And a list of their crimes:

    http://bigjournalism.com/jjmn...





    **** Interesting thing is many believe that someone in the Obama administration started the Occutard Movement to take the attention off of his failed presidency and low approval :



    http://www.realclearpolitics....



    Many also believe that Obama would have loved for riots to break out so he could call Martial Law.



    ****Interesting chart

    cre





    ****50 Impeachable crimes of Obama

    http://www.canadafreepress.co...



    ****OBAMA'S OWN WORDS TRAP HIM:

    2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."

    2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."

    2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."

    2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."

    2008: "Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."

    2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."



    ****Obama is endorsed by the Communist Party USA

    http://www.obamabiden12.com/o...



    ****Obamaville, Food Stamps USA (Look at the increase of food stamp usage under Obama)



    food







    ****Obama and his administration is racist. Here's some examples:

    By: David Limbaugh | 07/18/10 2:00 AM



    While President Obama has touted himself as a post-racial president, he has built a record demonstrating precisely the opposite. Is it Obama's bitterness, or is the incessant playing of the race card by him and many of his supporters merely calculated political exploitation -- or both?



    Let's look at a non-exhaustive list of examples since Obama took office.



    --Feb. 18, 2009: Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder, accused the nation of being a nation of cowards on race.



    --April 2009: NewsBusters reported that at the behest of the National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters, Democratic Federal Communications Commission Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein demanded a government inquiry into how the electronic Portable People Meter (used to measure radio ratings and which experts believe to be a far more reliable measure than the previous system) collects data. Obama's FCC indeed ordered an inquiry in the name of "diversity" because under the modern system, hip-hop ratings had declined and conservative talk ratings had increased.



    --May 2009: White House press secretary Robert Gibbs warned critics of Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor to measure their words carefully, implying they were race-based.



    --May 2009: The Obama-Holder Justice Department dismissed a case against New Black Panther Party members for voter intimidation, even though it had already won the case. Former Justice lawyer J. Christian Adams said that the NAACP lobbied Obama to have the case dismissed and that the case was dismissed based on the Justice Department's outrageous policy of not prosecuting such cases against blacks when they involve white victims.



    --July 2009: Not having heard all the facts, Obama accused Cambridge, Mass., police of "acting stupidly" in arresting a friend of his, Harvard professor Henry Gates, for disorderly conduct, dangling race as a motive for the arrest.



    --August 2009: The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights raised constitutional questions about the Obama administration's giving preferential treatment to minority students for scholarships and favoring medical schools that have records of sending graduates to areas with inadequate health care services.



    --September 2009: A video surfaced of Obama's "green jobs czar," Van Jones, saying, "You've never seen a Columbine done by a black child." It's "suburbanite white kids" who do it.



    --September 2009: Obama's FCC "diversity czar," Mark Lloyd, was seen on video saying, "There are few things, I think, more frightening in the American mind than dark-skinned black men." He also said, by the way, that the Fairness Doctrine wasn't enough to restore fairness to broadcasting. In 2005, Lloyd had complained that white Americans owned and controlled 98 percent of all federal broadcast licenses. Lloyd suggested at one point that white media executives should "step down" in favor of minorities.



    --September 2009: Politico reported that in a speech to the Congressional Black Caucus, Obama "opened with a fiery civil rights talk, ticking off racial disparities, calling for greater enforcement of civil rights laws and saying that the new White House Office of Urban affairs is working to address inequality." He also compared Obamacare to the civil rights struggle.



    --October 2009: The Obama-Holder Justice Department overruled a decision by the city of Kinston, N.C., to do away with party affiliation of candidates in local elections, saying that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democratic Party.



    --February 2010: After Obama had twice insulted Las Vegas and discouraged tourism there, Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman strongly criticized him, which led Obama supporters to accuse Goodman of racism.



    --March 2010: The Obama administration filed a brief supporting racial preferences in university admissions.



    --March 2010: Rep. John Lewis alleged that tea party protesters hurled racial slurs, but videos of the alleged incident did not corroborate it, making many believe the charges were fabricated.



    --March 2010 -- The Rev. Jeremiah Wright said tea party opposition to Obamacare was based on hatred for "people of color." New York Times columnist Frank Rich made similar allegations.



    --April 2010: WorldNetDaily reported that Gerry Hudson, executive vice president of the Service Employees International Union, said white American workers are "so f---ing rabidly racist" their sentiments can be used to scare blacks into supporting comprehensive immigration reform.



    --April 2010: The Washington Examiner reported that a reporter asked a black protester whether he was "uncomfortable" as part of the tea party.



    --Then there's the administration's playing the race card against Arizona's non-racial-profiling law, Obama's suggesting al-Qaida is racist, Obama's saying Israel is suspicious of him because of his middle name -- as opposed to his horrendous policies toward it -- and the NAACP's calling the tea party racist and then denying it.



    It turns out that others are noticing this above-described phenomenon, as well, as a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll revealed that fewer and fewer people believe Obama's presidency has advanced racial relations -- 4 in 10, compared with 6 in 10 when he was inaugurated.



    This is a very sad turn of events in this nation.



    Examiner Columnist David Limbaugh is a writer, author and attorney. His book "Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party" was released recently in paperback. To find out more about David Limbaugh, please visit his Web site at www.DavidLimbaugh.com. To read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page.



    http://washingtonexaminer.com...



    Need more examples?



    ****Didn't it bother you that the idiot voted "present" 129 times as Illinois senator?

    ****Since he never even ran a company payroll prior to running for president, why would you consider voting for him?



    It's amazing how uneducated Obama supporters are...LOL



    ****Here's a link to a free online dictionary to assist Obama supporters with the "big" words.

    http://www.thefreedictionary....

    Lastly, please explain why you love being an Obama lapdog?

    lao
    (more)
  • BARRY0619 Mr. Won... 2012/02/16 20:32:34 (edited)
    BARRY0619
    +2
    Again I ask, when will you libtards quit trying to distract from Obama's failed presidency by blaming Bush? Obama has been in 3 years and has:
    1) Spent more in 20 months than Bush spent in 8 years
    2) More are on food stamps thanks to Obama:

    mju

    3) Obama's job numbers are skewed because the bls no longer counts those no longer looking for work , otherwise real unemployment is 22.5%

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/re...

    Obama , after 3 years is no longer the new guy and yes everything now is his fault. Only stupid libtards "think" it's not.
  • harold 2012/02/13 16:32:09
    Yes
    harold
    I am beginning to be hopeful. It is okay to hope.
  • debrarae POTL _ PWCM 2012/02/12 01:32:55
    No
    debrarae POTL _ PWCM
    +3
    Millions of people are still out of work. And the 'numbers' don't include all the people who are now out of the 'market', because they can't find jobs. Nor does it include all the people who no longer qualify for benefits.
  • anee 2012/02/11 17:04:22
    Yes
    anee
    +1
    In most cases, NOT ALL it basically means people are just taking any work they can get because their unemployment has run out......Sad
  • Mr. Wonderful 2012/02/09 19:53:43
    Yes
    Mr. Wonderful
    It finally at least is headed in the right direction. All the clods posting here and elsewhere trying to blame Obama or make this a political football are damn fools.
  • aneed2know 2012/02/09 07:47:03
    Yes
    aneed2know
    yes very
  • Eastexn25 2012/02/08 21:09:06
    No
    Eastexn25
    +1
    Hopeful?? No, leery is more like it. When we see where procedures are being changed to alter the numbers outcome, it only tells me something deceitful is going on for someones gain or agenda. Why all of a sudden does the government feel that the BLS's accepted practice for decades needs to be changed? Does somebody want to be lied to that bad?
    http://www.bls.gov/sae/cespro...
    http://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/h...
    http://www.politicalmathblog....
    http://finance.townhall.com/c...
  • Josef 2012/02/08 17:40:50
    No
    Josef
    +1
    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, dirty lies and statistics."
  • Red Branch 2012/02/08 15:42:57
    No
    Red Branch
    +2
    Not in the least. Obama is still restricting drilling for oil.
    He is adding regulations at an uprecedented rate.
    He stopped the construction of the Keystone Pipeline.
  • irish 2012/02/08 12:12:25
    No
    irish
    +1
    real unemployment is at 24 % or more. this is govt spin.
  • Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA 2012/02/08 11:31:17 (edited)
    No
    Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA
    +2
    If it were real I might be hopeful. But these are faked numbers the "Bama" has contrived to make himself look like he's worth something. As usual it is all and Ostupid LIE!!!!



    "1.2 million people dropped out of the labor force in one month! So as the labor force increased from 153.9 million to 154.4 million, the non institutional population increased by 242.3 million meaning, those not in the labor force surged from 86.7 million to 87.9 million. Which means that the civilian labor force tumbled to a fresh 30 year low of 63.7% as the BLS is seriously planning on eliminating nearly half of the available labor pool from the unemployment calculation. " http://www.libertynewsonline....

    How Obama Lowered Unemployment

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=7757

    Is he able to work miracles? How can Obama magically lower the official unemployment rate to only twice what it was during W’s time, even while spending the country to the brink of bankruptcy and doubling down on every imaginable form of malicious regulation? Here’s how: by declaring that 1.2 million unemployed Americans no longer count because they have left the labor force, all in one month.

    The labor force now consists of 63.7% of the population, a 30-year low. But that’s no reason for the “mainstream” media to put away the party favors.

    ...









    If it were real I might be hopeful. But these are faked numbers the "Bama" has contrived to make himself look like he's worth something. As usual it is all and Ostupid LIE!!!!



    "1.2 million people dropped out of the labor force in one month! So as the labor force increased from 153.9 million to 154.4 million, the non institutional population increased by 242.3 million meaning, those not in the labor force surged from 86.7 million to 87.9 million. Which means that the civilian labor force tumbled to a fresh 30 year low of 63.7% as the BLS is seriously planning on eliminating nearly half of the available labor pool from the unemployment calculation. " http://www.libertynewsonline....

    How Obama Lowered Unemployment

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=7757

    Is he able to work miracles? How can Obama magically lower the official unemployment rate to only twice what it was during W’s time, even while spending the country to the brink of bankruptcy and doubling down on every imaginable form of malicious regulation? Here’s how: by declaring that 1.2 million unemployed Americans no longer count because they have left the labor force, all in one month.

    The labor force now consists of 63.7% of the population, a 30-year low. But that’s no reason for the “mainstream” media to put away the party favors.

    “U.S. Jobless Rate Falls to 8.3 Percent, a 3-Year Low,” blared the New York Times. “The nation’s unemployment rate dropped for the fifth straight month, to 8.3 percent, its lowest level in three years, the Labor Department reported Friday, with widespread hiring across the economy,” declared the Washington Post.

    Grownups remain skeptical. As the Financial Times noted,

    “According to government statistics, if the same number of people were seeking work today as in 2007, the jobless rate would be 11 percent.”

    Despite the hype over allegedly falling unemployment, TrimTabs CEO Charles Biderman observes:

    “Actual jobs outstanding, not seasonally adjusted, are down 2.9 million over the past two months. It is only after seasonal adjustments — made at the sole discretion of the Bureau of Labor Statistics economists — that 2.9 million less jobs gets translated into 446,000 new seasonally adjusted jobs for January and December.”

    In other words, bureaucrats are playing games with the numbers at Obama’s behest. But even the tiniest crumb of half-truth can prop up a reelection campaign, given the enthusiastic support of a left-wing media establishment that discarded its last remnants of professionalism to get Obama in power in the first place
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  • U-Dog 2012/02/08 09:53:55
    No
    U-Dog
    +2
    The fiat bubble blowing that got us into this mess is still going on, the interest rates are still being held artificially low by the FED in an attempt to jump start the economy instead of simply letting the market take a natural correction, The government is still spending at full speed ahead, Treasury is floating the idea of a QE3, They are cooking the books and lying about inflation and employment rates, and they are showing no sign that they are willing to slow down public spending or stop gambling the private sectors money away on egg-spurt run top down economic boondoggles.

    When the crony-caps credit card finally comes back denied there is going to be hell to pay and the government dependent little hand to mouths will still be screaming about how it is all the evil free markets fault.
    hayek surfdom
  • Soundstorm 2012/02/08 08:57:10
    No
    Soundstorm
    +3
    It's an election year and we're being played.

    Magic Act
  • USAF Vet 2012/02/08 08:31:41
    No
    USAF Vet
    +4
    After almost 4 years of 8+% unemployment, ambivalence has set in; it’s become the norm; then some idiot on Sodahead tells me ‘intelligent’ people vote democrat.
  • luvguins 2012/02/07 18:41:37
    Yes
    luvguins
    +1
    Any decrease is helpful, though I know the right expected an instant miracle, but even if given one they would still be whining. Every economist agreed that the unemployment rate would not reach a pre-recession level until 2015 at the earliest as this recession was more catastrophic than any previous bordering on depression.
  • Eastexn25 luvguins 2012/02/08 21:15:48
    Eastexn25
    +1
    If these numbers are right (see my comment above) then I must ask, when the Republicans took the house in '11 all we heard for months was 'OK where are the jobs, it's been X months' from the left wing. Will the left give any acknowledgment of, OK, there are the jobs. The Repubs passed 26 bills that could have effected employment but many were stifled by the party of NO in the Senate.
    I do agree with you that ANY decrease is helpful, but since BLS has changed their procedures that result in their final numbers, I have to remain leery.
  • luvguins Eastexn25 2012/02/08 21:44:55
    luvguins
    I do not think it is possible to get an accurate number that is 100% conclusive about who is in or out of the job market especially week to week or even monthly. The so called GOP jobs bills were not instant job creation since there was not much about construction except this Keystone push which will not create as many U.S. jobs as said.
  • Eastexn25 luvguins 2012/02/09 16:00:09
    Eastexn25
    +1
    20-50K (keystone) is nothing to sneeze at nor say no to.

    True it is close to impossible to ever get a real number, but when your totals are being adjusted by 1.2 million people and because of a change in procedure they are not being represented as before. Logic says the unemployment number should increase to almost 10% but because they are shifting them for very vague reasoning, I am quite leery.
  • luvguins Eastexn25 2012/02/09 16:17:00
    luvguins
    20-50K is an exaggeration regards Keystone jobs in the U.S. Most jobs will be in Canada and 50% of Canadians are against the pipeline. The estimate here is more like 4500-6000 jobs.
  • Eastexn25 luvguins 2012/02/09 17:35:14
    Eastexn25
    +1
    I would rather even have the 4500-6000 jobs (which is the lowest estimate I have ever seen on the pipeline) rather than transport the oil from SD across rail lines as has just been contracted for Warren Buffets own rail company BNSF. This in itself stinks to high heaven.
  • luvguins Eastexn25 2012/02/09 17:43:36
    luvguins
    Better than piping it thousands of miles when the Keystone I to connect to the Keystone XL has already had 11 leaks, and will not decrease our dependence on fossil fuel, but may contaminate water going to over a million people.
  • silentart 2012/02/07 00:16:07
    No
    silentart
    +3
    Down to 8.3 percent is just political action... They should list every states to measure sucess or failure to show true measurement. political group love to give sugared coating reports!
  • Dussy 2012/02/06 23:47:48
    Yes
    Dussy
    +1
    The economy seems to be headed in the right direction - toward complete recovery.
  • The Electrician 2012/02/06 12:10:34
    Yes
    The Electrician
    +1
    It would have been better if the President didn't have the RW obstructionism to deal with.
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