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Brian 2012/06/12 20:05:20
The Final Solution could not have happened without the railways, without the trains making the mass transport possible.

The people were lulled into a false security. They were told that they were going to different places, better conditions, work camps, on and on and on.

The transports were usually cattle cars. At times, the floor of the car had a layer of quick lime which burned the feet of the human cargo.

Being Transported To Death Camps In Cattle Cars.
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There was no water. There was no food. There was no toilet, no ventilation. Some boxcars had up to 150 people stuffed into them. It did not matter if it was summer, winter, boiling hot or freezing cold. And an average transport took about four and a half days.
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Sometimes the Germans did not have enough cars to make it worth their while to do a major shipment of Jews to the camps, so the victims were stuck in a switching yard – "standing room only" – for two and a half days.

The longest transport of the war, from Corfu, took 18 days. When the train got to the camps and the doors were opened, everyone was already dead.

Yes concentration camps are all over the United States.
I pray that we the people will make a stand against the New world order and what's coming down in America!
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  • sue Turings... 2012/06/17 09:40:32 (edited)
    sue
    It has not commanded the Church to do anything. It is exempt from everything, even taxes.

    The organizations affiliated with the Church must adhere to minimum employment regulations. This protects the workers from discrimination, unsafe conditions, and below standard pay levels. Are you saying that organizations affiliated with a religion should be allowed to use slave labor or operate sweat shops?

    A hospital is not a church. It is an affiliated organization and must adhere to rules for hospitals. This is likely what is best for patients at the hospital as well as employees.

    Schools are also not churches. They must also follow rules regarding child safety and minimum employment standards. Because they are private, they already don't have to apply teacher standards of curriculum standards. (And they already got a huge pass on molesting kids for decades thing.)

    And, since church affiliated organizations get such a huge and sweeping amount of money from the government (which is why they organied as "affiliates" instead of part of the Church -- so that they coudl lreceive government grants) then they must follow the rules of any other federal governmetn grantee.

    If they want to give up their tax exemption and federal funding, they would likely be able to say that the hospitals are pa...
    It has not commanded the Church to do anything. It is exempt from everything, even taxes.

    The organizations affiliated with the Church must adhere to minimum employment regulations. This protects the workers from discrimination, unsafe conditions, and below standard pay levels. Are you saying that organizations affiliated with a religion should be allowed to use slave labor or operate sweat shops?

    A hospital is not a church. It is an affiliated organization and must adhere to rules for hospitals. This is likely what is best for patients at the hospital as well as employees.

    Schools are also not churches. They must also follow rules regarding child safety and minimum employment standards. Because they are private, they already don't have to apply teacher standards of curriculum standards. (And they already got a huge pass on molesting kids for decades thing.)

    And, since church affiliated organizations get such a huge and sweeping amount of money from the government (which is why they organied as "affiliates" instead of part of the Church -- so that they coudl lreceive government grants) then they must follow the rules of any other federal governmetn grantee.

    If they want to give up their tax exemption and federal funding, they would likely be able to say that the hospitals are part of the church and maintain their exemptions. If they wanted to be separate, the certainly could. But when you attach yourself to government money, you attach yourself to government regulation as well.
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  • Patrick... AL 2012/06/15 17:36:53
    Patrick Moser
    FACTS missing from your comment, but Facts mean nothing to conservatives :
    FACTS missing from your comment, but Facts mean nothing to conservatives :

    -The regulation Obama proposes has been on the books in 28 states for years, and the Church has complied without a quibble.

    -The Catholic Health Association – the arm of the Church that’s actually involved in running the hospitals – has accepted Obama’s proposed compromise.

    http://www.chausa.org/Pages/N...

    If the arm of the Church that actually Runs the hospitals (as opposed to the Bishops, who don’t) is okay with the compromise, where’s the religious liberty implication? The Bishops won’t pay a dime to help contraception. The money and accounting are in two different organizations. Their religious freedom isn’t implicated at all.

    When a religion impacts people who are not part of that religion – who decides the rules? Take their tax breaks away and see how much their opinion fade away.

    So the govt would not, for instance, provide Medicare or Medicaid payments to any entity operated by a religious institution.

    if we are going to separate – then let’s do it.

    I realize Republicans and Conservatives are forbid from disguising or acknowledging the resent past unless its approved propaganda and talking points but....

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    FACTS missing from your comment, but Facts mean nothing to conservatives :
    FACTS missing from your comment, but Facts mean nothing to conservatives :

    -The regulation Obama proposes has been on the books in 28 states for years, and the Church has complied without a quibble.

    -The Catholic Health Association – the arm of the Church that’s actually involved in running the hospitals – has accepted Obama’s proposed compromise.

    http://www.chausa.org/Pages/N...

    If the arm of the Church that actually Runs the hospitals (as opposed to the Bishops, who don’t) is okay with the compromise, where’s the religious liberty implication? The Bishops won’t pay a dime to help contraception. The money and accounting are in two different organizations. Their religious freedom isn’t implicated at all.

    When a religion impacts people who are not part of that religion – who decides the rules? Take their tax breaks away and see how much their opinion fade away.

    So the govt would not, for instance, provide Medicare or Medicaid payments to any entity operated by a religious institution.

    if we are going to separate – then let’s do it.

    I realize Republicans and Conservatives are forbid from disguising or acknowledging the resent past unless its approved propaganda and talking points but....

    Conservatives pick and choose when it comes to limiting freedom ...they had no issue with Bush and Cheney trounced all our freedoms......Obviously Conservative,Southerners and KKK only have problems with a Black President. If this were not the case where were these constitutional scholars when President Bush and his fellow Republicans in Congress expunged these rights

    FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.

    FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

    RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

    FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

    RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

    RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.

    That good citizens are compliant and unconcerned regarding G.W. Bush's propensity to trample constitutional freedoms bespeaks a great ignorance or a great apathy, or both.

    These rights have already been lost! Whether individual Americans have been personally subjected to the resultant tyranny or not doesn't change the fact that they have already lost these freedoms! This fact, alone, should be enough for any studious lover-of-liberty to be outraged.

    That good citizens were compliant and unconcerned regarding G.W. Bush's propensity to trample constitutional freedoms bespeaks a great ignorance or a great apathy, or both.

    The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment provides that all women are entitled with this coverage. Furthermore, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Roe v. Wade, found the Right to Privacy to be an implicit & Fundamental Right residing in the 1st, 4th, 9th & 14th Amendments and the Bill of Rights. This Privacy Right, the Supreme Court wrote, includes “contraception”, “abortion”, and other family related matters. Religious institutions hiring only members from their faith can rely on the 1st Amendment to exclude them from complying with the Affordable Care Act. Otherwise, the Equal Protections Clause & the Right to Privacy protect women working in religious organizations hiring members of all faiths.

    -Catholic Charities gets received $73 million federal tax dollars
    -There over head is 33% most charity run at 12%.
    -Last year the Catholic Church spent over $5B to defend itself in molestation charges.(I wonder how many of our tax dollars went to defending Pedophiles?)

    Sources:

    ap.org
    baltimorechronicle.com
    forbes.com
    thenewyorktimes.com
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  • sue Patrick... 2012/06/15 18:35:36
    sue
    Absolutely the Catholic Church's tax exempt status should be challenged if this lobbying keeps up. Especially since 98% of Catholics don't even agree with this particular dictum from the "infallable" Pope.
  • owen sue 2012/06/18 11:48:06
    owen
    +2
    You should look into the exact meanings of the infallability and 98%is silly,our church is tax exempt as are all churches.Christianity in America is seen as comical worldwide,its a stage show in my opinion,theres very little spirituality in America today .The American churches were created by Freemasonry and are truthfully false churches.The Catholic faith has been diluted and abused by gays,freemasons and paedophiles within the clergy,this is a Satanic outfit and are hell bent on the destruction of Christs church for the benefit of the evil one.At no time in our churches history has there been 98% agreement on anything,ever!!
  • sue owen 2012/06/18 11:55:27
    sue
    +1
    Well, 98% of Catholic women say they use birth control. Presumably, they are with Catholic men. They agree that the celibate Pope is not infallible on this issue.

    The Catholic Church lost its spirituality when it became the government in the Middle Ages. It has never rebuilt itself into an organization that follows the teachings of Christ. In fact, as a person raised Cathlic, I can say that Church teachings very rarely refer directly to scripture.
  • owen sue 2012/06/20 00:57:56
    owen
    +2
    There you go again miss 98%,didnt I tell you to check on the distorted meanig regarding the Pope and infallability?The word is actually CATHOLIC and its the church of Christ.Jesus said to Peter you are my rock and on you I shall build my church.We are over one billion strong and there has never been 98% agreement on anything.There is a war going on as we speak within the vatican.See malachi Martin on youtube.
  • sue owen 2012/06/20 06:58:17
    sue
    Frankly, the infallability of the Pope should never be an issue for the US government. THe Church is tax free and exempt from being a decent employer, but it doesn't extend to Church affiliated organizations. If they want to stop getting tax exemptions for these organizations and stop receiving Federal Funding, they may be able to extend their crappy employment practices to these organizations as part of the CHurch. But since they chose to incorporate them as 501(c)3 organizations and receive federal grants and tax exemptions, then they should stop lobbying or lose their status.

    And you can think what you want, but 98% of US Catholics use birth control. Everybody is on board wtih this.
  • owen sue 2012/06/20 11:27:48
    owen
    +1
    Empyhead.
  • sue owen 2012/06/20 14:56:54
    sue
    LOL! If you are going to result to insults, you could at least spell them correctly:-)
  • owen sue 2012/06/21 03:41:44
    owen
    This 98% rubbish,is it just a figure of speech with you?The Catholic church is huge and debates are held on every topic.
  • sue owen 2012/06/21 06:52:11
    sue
    http://www.reuters.com/articl...

    I'm sure it's debated, but quietly, most people use birth control. Who can afford to keep having kids? Even my mom, who had five before the doctor told her she should stop, had enough sense to ignore the pope so she would be healthy enough to take care of th ekids she had already instead of popping out another one every year or so.

    My sister-in-law, who is allegedly Catholic, was unaware that using birth control is against Catholic doctrine. She goes to church every Sunday!

    According to polling, Catholic women who have used birth control amount to only one percentage point less than the population of American women at large who have used birth control. So, to quote Earl Butz on Paul VI's policy on birth control: He no playa the game, he no maka the rules.

    And again, the church is still free to preach its outdated unapplied idea. It is even free to force its opinion on its own employees. What it is not free to do is to force its opinion on the employees of affiliated organizations. This is the employees' freedom from religion, and does not change what the church or its members do.
  • owen sue 2012/06/21 07:16:58
    owen
    +1
    I dont know of any women with guns to their heads do you? My neice is expecting her eighth.She is pretty full on as a Catholic mother above all else.I must be honest and say I worry about her health etc.I cant see her returning to university now and she was a marvel in all areas,still she has her priorities set right according toour ways.The church in America is rather weak with so many masonic paedophiles,gaypriests,its no wonder the country was threatened with excommunication.
  • sue owen 2012/06/21 08:37:12 (edited)
    sue
    They don't have guns to their heads. THey are on birth control, probably covered by their employer's insurance! Your niece is clearly one of the few who isn't. Of all my siblings, none had more than two kids, but only two of us still call ourselves Catholic. Look around the pews on Sunday and you will see it isn't how it was when I was little where all the families are big. Most are not any more, and it isn't from abstinence or divine intervention.

    The Church is so obsessed with sex of all kinds that it forgets what Jesus was about. The pope chastised a group of nuns for focusing too much on poverty and not enough on birth control. What is wrong with these people? It's bad enough inside the Church. The least these old farts could do is keep it to themselves.
  • owen sue 2012/06/21 09:08:56
    owen
    +1
    The point is nobody is being forced to do anything at all.Calling church leaders names wont help either.Our church must divide,especially since the V2council has all but destroyed the church as we knew it.Focus today is on money and not the sheep.Malachi Martin(RIP) was absolutely correct in all he had to say about the Illuminati takeover and its agenda.I love the real catholic faith but not all of our nuns and priests are holy people,quite the opposite Im sorry to say.Godbless
  • sue owen 2012/06/21 09:22:32
    sue
    In any case, none of them should influence employment and benefit laws of the United States. And this they are pushing -- lobbying to do. They should not be able to influence what is preventive care. It's a health decision and a public policy decision, not a Church decision to make. They are trying to make it so that employees of Church affiliated organizations get sub-standard health insurance just because the Church doesn't like that it covers birth control. THat is wrong.

    The Church has been about money since they sold the first indulgence. And calling the pope, cardinals, and bishops "old farts" was really just referring to their age, but I could do without that second part, I guess. THey are old, and they are not affected by the outdated policy they are trying to enforce.
  • owen sue 2012/06/21 13:26:50
    owen
    +1
    Were you ever forced into being a Christian?I accept that church and state are best seperate and Im not able to add to your American situation being from Australia.
  • sue owen 2012/06/21 13:55:05 (edited)
    sue
    I am advocating their separation. It is the Church that is attempting to get involved in employment and health legislation, not the other way around. I am saying they should stay out of it.

    (and actually I was forced into being a Christian, but by my mother;-)
  • owen sue 2012/06/21 14:19:34
    owen
    +1
    If your heart wasnt in it you were never a Christian.I dont know exactly what changes the church is asking for in the usa.In my opinion I want my grandkids taught in schools by Christians and not lesbians and gay men.I want them to know that abortion is murder etc.Can you please explain what your major concerns are?
  • sue owen 2012/06/21 14:58:28
    sue
    The Council of US Bishops is asking that employers be allowed to not cover preventive care for their employees if they have a personal/religious objection to birth control. The Bishops should mind their own business. Next you will have every employer in the US saying they are Christian Scientists so they can avoid paying for any health benefits at all.
  • owen sue 2012/06/22 03:19:28
    owen
    +1
    I will need to read up on this,I am very pro life myself.We have all sorts within our church and our Bishops are sometimes good sometimes not.Only minutes ago I read about another playboy Bishop caught out at a holiday resort with a model.There are even Bishops worshipping Satan in black masses,there really is spiritual warfare taking place within our church.
  • sue owen 2012/06/22 16:13:16
    sue
    This is just about whether insurance should cover birth control as per the new requirements under the affordable care act. It doesn't address abortion at all.
  • owen sue 2012/06/22 22:58:54
  • AL Patrick... 2013/04/24 20:26:41
    AL
    It all boils down to one thing-the Catholic can't even pay an inserence company to go against the Churches own views!
  • owen AL 2012/06/18 12:05:46
    owen
    +1
    Obama should never have been invited into ONeill house at ND,father OConnor was right about ND and what it has become.
  • AL sue 2013/04/24 20:54:56 (edited)
    AL
    For the very simple fact, that Obama is pro gay marrage and pro late term abortion as well! He even had the Christian cross covered when he spoke at a Christian College as well!
  • Incognito Brian 2012/06/14 16:02:38
    Incognito
    +2
    And their book is the Satanic Bible.
    satanic bible
  • Incognito AL 2012/06/14 16:01:27
  • AL Incognito 2012/06/14 21:03:03
    AL
    +1
    Believe me, the anti Christ will make Hitler look more like a cub scout before Jesus returns!
  • Incognito AL 2012/06/14 21:18:46
    Incognito
    LOL... HITLER BOYSCOUT
  • owen AL 2012/06/18 11:49:36
    owen
    +1
    Thats for certain Al.
  • sue Incognito 2012/06/21 13:57:14
    sue
    +1
    I can never tell if people are being ironic by posting this nonsense or not.
  • Incognito sue 2012/06/21 15:02:53
  • owen AL 2012/06/18 11:34:34
    owen
    +1
    America needs to sack the masonic jews running Wall street if its to survive,Rothschild zionism is dictating to you all regardless of who ever is elected and that goes for Britain too.
  • sue owen 2012/06/21 20:29:50
    sue
    The Masons don't admit Jews.
  • owen sue 2012/06/22 03:20:34
    owen
    +2
    You have a lot to learn dear
  • historian sue 2013/04/24 20:15:23 (edited)
    historian
    +1
    Since when? The very symbol of the masons is the hexagram found on the flag of that state calling itself "Israel".
  • AL owen 2013/04/24 20:30:36
    AL
    Are you any relation to Hitler perhaps?
  • owen AL 2013/05/07 12:32:13
    owen
    Perhaps I am because his roots like mine were in the house of Judah.
  • historian AL 2013/04/24 20:09:59
    historian
    +1
    Actually, many of the people calling themselves Christian are fully behind the global empire, as they don't seem to see a war they don't support. It's really heartbreaking to see people stomping the blood of Christ in favor of supporting the agenda of antichrist.
  • AL historian 2013/04/24 20:32:13
    AL
    Are you talking about Christians in name only perhaps?

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