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Documentary from the History Channel about Hitler's rise to power the third Reich and the Nazis.

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  • twocrows 2012/04/29 21:16:01
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    yes, I've watched this documentary [along with its companion, The Fall] numerous times.
    I've studied the Third Reich for over 40 years and I can tell you for certain that those who compare Obama to Hitler are simply irresponsible people trying [and failing] to make political points.
    Here are the facts:
    Fascism: A radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through indoctrination.

    Fascists seek to purge forces, ideas, people and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration. Fascists believe that a nation requires a singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong. Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the state.

    Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists. It rejects egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism in favor of action, discipline and hierarchy.
    In economics, fascists oppose liberalism and Marxism for being class-based movements. Fascist economics supports the existence of private property, the existence of a market economy and the use of the profit motive.
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    Now, be honest - which party more closely r...


















    yes, I've watched this documentary [along with its companion, The Fall] numerous times.
    I've studied the Third Reich for over 40 years and I can tell you for certain that those who compare Obama to Hitler are simply irresponsible people trying [and failing] to make political points.
    Here are the facts:
    Fascism: A radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through indoctrination.

    Fascists seek to purge forces, ideas, people and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration. Fascists believe that a nation requires a singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong. Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the state.

    Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists. It rejects egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism in favor of action, discipline and hierarchy.
    In economics, fascists oppose liberalism and Marxism for being class-based movements. Fascist economics supports the existence of private property, the existence of a market economy and the use of the profit motive.
    ~~~
    Now, be honest - which party more closely resembles this definition?
    hmmmm ---
    Fascists advocate a one party system:
    WHO is it that is making it more difficult to vote by demanding picture ID’s then closing down the offices where such ID’s can be obtained in districts that vote primarily Democratic while extending the hours in Republican districts? [hint - the governors of Wisconsin, Ohio, Arizona and New Jersey all lean rightward.]

    Fascists promote violence and war:
    WHO got us into 2 wars - one of which was proven, even before we started it, to be absolutely unnecessary?

    Fascists seek to purge that which they deem to be decadent:
    WHO is it who is trying to dictate how people should live their personal lives while claiming to want government ‘off our backs’?

    Fascists support the market economy and the profit motive:
    WHO recently made corporations people with all the rights thereof?

    No - the parallels aren’t perfect. But when people start throwing the term ‘Fascist’ around and claiming it to be a liberal viewpoint one of two things is happening [or maybe both]: they’re ignorant of the facts and/or they are being disingenuous.
    So which category fits those of you who are trying to score points by putting a mustache on Obama? Both perhaps?

    Oh, and just one more:
    Fascists forbid opposition to the state and demand allegiance to one individual as its symbol:
    If Obama fit this definition all the birthers would be in prison. Just sayin.
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  • goblue1968 2012/05/02 17:38:50
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    Whew! Oh Good, I checked off the right choice!

    I stumbled on to that show while channel-surfing the other night and found it quite interesting! I had not known how ignorant most of the German populace were about Hitler's past while they were being mesmerized by his presence at the podium. Oops, that even happens during this day and age when there is so much easy access to information that you have to be deliberatly apathetic to be that ignorant now!!
  • Mike 2012/04/30 20:52:18 (edited)
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    Watched it the other night, but didn't see all the second half, "The fall". It was interesting. In that, they told of things I had not known about Nazis thinking and the ways it was instilled into the population to reach their goals. You would think we could learn from history. Give men power and they only use it to benefit their own thinking, to whats best for the rest.
  • 9th of 9 2012/04/30 12:08:12
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  • vdehl 2012/04/30 06:37:48
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    You know I took a course in college called "The Emergence of Modern Germany". It was an interesting course, but too many details. WWII statue of sailor kissing girl
  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/04/30 04:06:46
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    This is totally unbalanced. It is almost entirely about the National part of the National Socialist Workers Party and almost no mention of the very real Socialist agenda and the workers against management aspect of the party. The National Socialist Workers Party was primarily in competition with the Communists and sought to make their socialist program a bit more amenable to the relatively wealthy Germans than Communism would have been. Developed countries are a hard sell for the confiscation of all property. This is why the socialist model victorious in Germany was fascist. This is why socialism in the US is really more fascist than Communist, though Communists do enter their ranks.
  • Mike Charles... 2012/04/30 21:13:39
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    Balanced or not balanced, I think the point of the film was to show the extreme a party, in power, will go to further its agenda. Even to brainwashing.
  • Charles... Mike 2012/05/03 05:09:45
    Charles R. Anderson
    Those parties that more believe in central planning and big government will generally go further with brainwashing since individuality is a major problem for them.
  • Mark Twain 2012/04/30 02:08:53
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    Why would these Propagandists create this thread and immediately begin to lay in volumes of how absurd it is to compare Obama to Hitler. This is called disinformation. They want to mislead you before you watch the tradgedy unfold and see the similarities. The Regulators of the Administration use the tactics of intimidation just as the SS before them. If they come for you,,you are guilty. This is the world you live in now. No this administration uses some facist tactics but They are Marxist to the core. They are going to starve you into submission.
  • Tomus M... Mark Twain 2012/04/30 02:13:22
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    It sounds like your brain is starving already.

    Seriously, this is a good documentary and affords opportunity for intelligent discussion. But no, all the right wing weirdos on here have to come on and call Obama Hitler. Get real!
  • Cal Mark Twain 2012/04/30 02:20:01
  • Cal 2012/04/30 02:02:51 (edited)
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    Very good. I recommend to you a series called that DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It's an old show, in black and white, that was made in 1943 as the war was ongoing. It's very interesting if you like this era of history. Throughout the entire thing they refer to WW2 as "the present war".

    You'll have to search around some as there are 7 videos but I have one that I am hosting on my site right now that you can watch.

    http://politicalbuddies.com/m...
  • Mark Twain Cal 2012/04/30 02:11:23
    Mark Twain
    Enjoy your new masters when they arrive,,I think you will learn to fit in very well.
  • Cal Mark Twain 2012/04/30 02:16:54 (edited)
  • Mark Twain Cal 2012/05/04 17:44:53
    Mark Twain
    When children cant marshal an intelligent rebuttal, they resort to insults and name calling.
  • Cal Mark Twain 2012/05/04 19:28:14 (edited)
    Cal
    Yes, that's correct, which is why i replied to your idiocy with a meme. You we're trolling. Get over it. I'm not going to put serious effort into someone trolling. When retards troll an intellegent debate that's when you know to stop caring.

    BTW you better read up some. Nothing about your "rebuttal" is intelligent even in the slightest meaning of the word.
  • Mark Twain Cal 2012/05/07 05:52:41
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    You should not use the word retard in an inapproiate manner as its demeaning to the mentally challenged. Hey just remember the old Marxist slogan FORWARD WORKERS.
  • cate 2012/04/30 01:58:49 (edited)
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    History have lessons that are yet to be learned. Mistakes and atrocities repeated again and again and again. So frightening and so worrisome.
  • Andrew 2012/04/30 01:56:32
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    It's amazing what we can learn from history.
  • SiliconSorcerer 2012/04/30 00:58:33
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    I watched and all I could think of was 0bama fooling the masses, not only will he be known as the worst president in history but the most deceitful and maybe worse.
  • ETpro 2012/04/30 00:50:23
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    I watched that last night. It was riveting television, told through actual newsclips and home movies of the time. It was also chilling how the dog-whistle racism of today's American right is so close to the playbook Hitler and his propagandists used to turn Gremany into a hate-filed nation of maniacs.
  • jcadla 2012/04/30 00:22:09
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    Twocrows below makes a pretty good argument for Obama being a Facist. Barack Obama is a foul traitor to this nation. He has absolutely no respect for our constitution or the congress in general. Anybody who cannot see what a bad person Obama is and how strongly he is working to downgrade this nation, has no right to even be involved with anything about who leads this nation. People for Obama are very sick, ignorant people/. Too bad...
  • Tomus M... jcadla 2012/04/30 00:37:21 (edited)
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    That's pathetic. We didn't like bush, but at least I could still recognize that he is a good man and patriotic. Calling your president a "foul traitor" is way out of line. Maybe Nazi Germany is more your cup of tea?
  • jcadla Tomus M... 2012/04/30 00:56:51
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    Study Obama very closely and you will find that he has done absolutely nothing good for this country. He is a liar and a cheat. His own grandmother swore she was present in Africa when Obama was born there. And he will not even admit he is a Muslim by birth. His father was Muslim and that makes him one. His 'Christian' pastor was the most racist, America hating man there is and Obama attended that Church for 20 years. And his best friend and mentor was a terrorist who only regrets he did not actuall kill anyone,-any American, that is. He is bad news for America.
  • Mopvyzo jcadla 2012/04/30 11:29:50
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    Wow right-wing talking points. Just because Obama's father was a Muslim does not make him one. Islam is a religion, not a race. Just like someone can't be born a Christian, you can't be born a Muslim. Sure Obama's father was a Communist, but that does not make him one. Obama doesn't hate America.
  • Mark Twain Mopvyzo 2012/05/04 17:54:26
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    Islam is more than a religion, its also a political system. How do you know Obama doesn't hate America. ARE YOU IN HIS HEAD?. Islamic expansion is going to eat you boys alive. You think you are using them but they have plans for you just check out their history.
  • lonePatriot67 2012/04/29 23:56:11
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    Rise of the Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs is a good read makes you think
  • patriot88000 2012/04/29 23:46:36
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    Sounds like this exact same comparison could be made about the rise to fame of Barack Hussain Obama as many of the tactics Obama has used was taken from the Adolf Hitler playbook, as well as the Communist Manifesto.
  • JOJO 2012/04/29 23:26:39 (edited)
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    Don't have cable. However I'm a history teacher and have studied the causes of WWII extensively. Which party does fascism come closest to today? Well, gee. Starts with a "R" and ends with a "N"? It is the extreme RIGHT.
    So I can't comment on the "Hitler" channel.
    Hitler played on the German need for revenge for what they felt was done to them after WWI. He took office legally. The Depression helped things along. Remember that politicians who promise everything seldom deliver. They just sound good.
    The best antidote? Be an informed electorate.
    How can President Obama be "ruining" the US when everything he does has to go through Congress? Duh. Read the Constitution much?
  • jcadla JOJO 2012/04/30 01:23:17
    jcadla
    Obama has no respect for the constitution. He makes more 'executive decisions' than any president ever has. He has been spitting on the constitution ever since he took office. Like, General Motors of America...
  • Tedster jcadla 2012/04/30 03:54:55
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    Take your med and calm the f---k down. And stop running around your rented trailer's living room clapping your hands at those invisible insects and yelling, "They only come at night now!"
  • H H 2012/04/29 23:08:07
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    The Third Reich is not comparable to the Obamanation.
    The narrative atop this SH page is excellent at explaining what Obama is really doing to the US: http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Tomus Megalomania 2012/04/29 22:34:06
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    I've seen it as well as "The Fall." Both are brilliant and powerful. However, I don't think they treat Leni Riefenstahl's work fairly.
  • 'Zedd 2012/04/29 22:27:18
  • S and S 2012/04/29 22:25:52
  • twocrows S and S 2012/04/29 23:05:31
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    you watched it yet you do not comprehend it? seriously?
    fact:
    Fascists forbid opposition to the state and demand allegiance to one individual as its symbol:
    If Obama fit this definition all the birthers would be in prison. Just sayin.
  • patriot... twocrows 2012/04/29 23:52:55
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    Oh so what you are saying is it is still fine to be able to protest anywhere a politician is, but yet according to the new law that Obama signed the Secret Service can arrest people for protesting within so many feet of a politician. Yet you claim that there is no comparrison. It sure sounds like you are ignoring the facts. This is not just about "Birthers", as you call them this is about anybody who disagrees with and protests a politicians policy, and yes, Obama signed it. Like I said it is you that are not looking at the comparable facts.
  • Mark Twain patriot... 2012/04/30 02:12:58
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    They are not worth talking to.
  • twocrows patriot... 2012/04/30 02:45:09
    twocrows
    oh, I didn't know Obama was in the House of Representatives, these days - - or ever had been, for that matter:

    "The US House of Representatives voted 388-to-3 in favor of H.R. 347 late Monday, a bill which is being dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. In the bill, Congress officially makes it illegal to trespass on the grounds of the White House, which, on the surface, seems not just harmless and necessary, but somewhat shocking that such a rule isn’t already on the books. The wording in the bill, however, extends to allow the government to go after much more than tourists that transverse the wrought iron White House fence."

    sticking to facts would be SO refreshing. but the haters just can't seem to manage it.
  • patriot... twocrows 2012/05/08 22:46:08
    patriot88000
    Well you did forget the fact that Obama could easily have Vetoed the Bill, but he did not he signed it as quietly and quickly as he could. Yes sticking to the facts would be refreshing I would agree, but apparently you forgot those pesky little facts. Obama has the Veto pen and failed to use it.
  • jcadla twocrows 2012/04/30 01:00:22
    jcadla
    Like, no one now can criticize in his presence Obama now or they will be arrested by the secret service and charged with a felony. That's not opposition and allegiance?

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