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The tax payers in some California cities are beginning to fight back against these UNIONS. San Diego and San Jose have just voted to curtail union demands. FAIR or FOUL?

GINGERBREAD 2012/06/07 14:49:28
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These California cities, and I'm guessing that there will be more of them have voted to "RENEGE" on the promises made by other past politicians, and will force these STATE UNIONS to re-negociate their salaries, medical insurance, and retirements, because the TAX PAYERS finally realise that all these past agreements with the unions are unsustainable.
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  • none 2012/06/07 15:54:23
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    none
    +4
    Trade union and private sector unions work and help the members. Public sector unions do nothing but work for themselves and bankrupt cities, counties,and states with their unreasonable demands. We'd be better off without any public sector unions and I'm happy that two cities in the land of fruits and nuts have finally seen past their liberal roots and are doing the right thing for a change.

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  • jimrthy BN-0 2012/06/08 23:17:52
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    jimrthy BN-0
    Even FDR recognized that letting public employees form unions is a recipe for disaster.

    The people who did the negotiating in the past should have known you cannot trust politicians.
  • Cliff 2012/06/08 12:44:35
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    Cliff
    Even if you live in la la land, eventually you have to deal with reality.
  • MW121 2012/06/07 21:12:36
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    MW121
    It's a start.. Wait until the Brown Tax initiative doesn't pass in Nov.. Ca going to have a rude awakening..
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/06/07 19:18:41
    Undecided
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    Seems like everyone wants to turn the USA into a copy of china - work 50-60 hours a week for 30 cents an hour....
  • kudabux Lady Wh... 2012/06/07 19:40:27
    kudabux
    +1
    You got it.
  • Lady Wh... kudabux 2012/06/07 22:03:46
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    THANKIES!
  • jimrthy... Lady Wh... 2012/06/08 23:30:01
    jimrthy BN-0
    AIUI, these are public employee unions. Isn't part of the point that we're supposed to be able to trust the government? At the very least, it seems like its employees should be able to avoid those sorts of abuses without collective bargaining.

    I've had a couple of cops admit that one main reason their bad apples can get away with so much is that their unions are so strong.

    Why do police, of all groups, need a union?

    Membership in private unions has been dwindling steadily over the years. Because most of what they needed to accomplish is done. Now they mostly just mark time, in case they're needed again. Except for groups like the NFL players' union.

    Now *there's* a group that doesn't have to worry about their employers abusing them.

    Anyway. You seem to be worried that the government will abuse its employees worse than private sector employees have decided on their own.

    I have very mixed feelings about unions in general. But I don't have any sympathy at all for public sector employees. If they can't the government, then that's just more proof that neither can the rest of us (as if we needed any more).
  • Claybern 2012/06/07 18:17:52
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    Claybern
    I think it's great.
  • lm1b2 2012/06/07 16:50:26
    Undecided
    lm1b2
    +2
    They put themselves in debt supporting illegal aliens,and now their desperate for money,sad story! God forbid that they deport the illegal aliens!
  • Karen E 2012/06/07 16:33:45
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    Karen E
    +1
    they finally realized outgo is more than incoming.......a rather unpleasant surprise. at least they are beginning to get "it"..........their governor apparently does not.........
  • bob'45 2012/06/07 15:56:47
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    bob'45
    +2
    This trend will eventually have to spread throughout the country. There is simply no other way that local governments can continue to support out of control union demands.
  • none 2012/06/07 15:54:23
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    none
    +4
    Trade union and private sector unions work and help the members. Public sector unions do nothing but work for themselves and bankrupt cities, counties,and states with their unreasonable demands. We'd be better off without any public sector unions and I'm happy that two cities in the land of fruits and nuts have finally seen past their liberal roots and are doing the right thing for a change.
  • HarleyCharley 2012/06/07 15:22:31
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    HarleyCharley
    +3
    there is no money to pay for demands of unions....
  • GINGERBREAD 2012/06/07 14:57:32
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    GINGERBREAD
    +2
    The TAX PAYERS in California and I will guess most of these states in the 50 states have finally woke up to what these liberal, socialist and communists politicians have done to them. They have finally realised that voting for these liberals, socialists and communists politicians were very detrimental to their finacial health. If you will notice, I'm not talking about democrats and republicans. For once, honest people in both parties are realising that taxing people to the limit is not the right way to go. Is this the death knell for the STATE & FEDERAL UNIONS?
  • stevmackey 2012/06/07 14:51:48 (edited)
    FAIR: The tax payers have finally realised that these agreements made by past...
    stevmackey
    +3
    This needs to happen around the rest of the country.
  • GINGERB... stevmackey 2012/06/07 14:59:43
    GINGERBREAD
    +1
    Well, it started in Wisconsin, then in these California cities. What next? The whole country?
  • stevmackey GINGERB... 2012/06/07 15:02:04
    stevmackey
    +2
    That sounds like a good idea.
  • Lady Wh... stevmackey 2012/06/07 19:19:21
  • kudabux Lady Wh... 2012/06/07 19:41:39
    kudabux
    +1
    These cons are out of their freakin minds.
  • Lady Wh... kudabux 2012/06/08 09:19:56
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    agreed
  • jimrthy... stevmackey 2012/06/08 23:21:51
    jimrthy BN-0
    I think the idea of having various states with a variety of government systems was to try out alternatives to figure out what works.

    What sounds like a good idea to one population segment obviously sounds like a horrible one to others. I guess the important thing is to try it and see whether it works.

    It seems blatantly obvious to me that CA's current setup is a disaster. Others will keep trying to milk its government until it has to admit it's bankrupt.

    The danger there, of course, being that the feds might decide it's too big to fail and bail it out. This is another reason they shouldn't be trying to manipulate the economy.
  • Claybern GINGERB... 2012/06/07 18:22:01
    Claybern
    Let's hope.

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