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The Tax Man Cometh To Police You On Health Care.

zbacku 2012/07/08 00:22:56
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By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court's decision to uphold most of President Barack Obama's health care law will come home to roost for most taxpayers in about 2 1/2 years, when they'll have to start providing proof on their tax returns that they have health insurance.

That scenario puts the Internal Revenue Service at the center of the debate, renewing questions about whether the agency is capable of policing the health care decisions of millions of people in the United States while also collecting the taxes needed to run the federal government.

Under the law, the IRS will provide tax breaks and incentives to help pay for health insurance and impose penalties on some people who don't buy coverage and on some businesses that don't offer it to employees.

The changes will require new regulations, forms and publications, new computer programs and a big new outreach program to explain it all to taxpayers and tax professionals. Businesses that don't claim an exemption will have to prove they offer health insurance to employees.



The health care law "includes the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years," according to the Treasury inspector general who oversees the IRS. The agency will have to hire thousands of workers to manage it, requiring significant budget increases that already are being targeted by congressional Republicans determined to dismantle the president's signature initiative.

"Knowing the complexity of the health law, there's no question that the IRS is going to struggle with this," said Rep. Charles Boustany Jr., R-La., chairman of the House Ways and Means oversight subcommittee. "The IRS wants more resources. Well, we need to start digging down into what are they doing with the resources and personnel."

Treasury spokeswoman Sabrina Siddiqui said, "The overwhelming majority of funds used by the agency to implement the Affordable Care Act go to administer the premium tax credits, which will be a tax cut averaging about $4,000 for more than 20 million middle-class people and families."

The Supreme Court, in its 5-4 ruling, upheld the mandate that most Americans get health insurance. The majority said Congress has the power to enforce the mandate under its taxing authority. The decision labeled the penalties a tax, noting that they will be collected by the IRS.

Those who don't get qualified health insurance will be required to pay the penalty - or tax - starting for the 2014 tax year, unless they are exempt because of low income, religious beliefs, or because they are members of American Indian tribes.

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(AP) In this July 21, 2011 file photo House Ways and Means Oversight subcommittee Chairman Rep....
Full ImageThe penalty will be fully phased in by 2016, when it will be $695 for each uninsured adult or 2.5 percent of family income, whichever is greater, up to $12,500. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that 4 million people will pay the penalty that year.

The law, however, severely limits the ability of the IRS to collect the penalties. There are no civil or criminal penalties for refusing to pay it and the IRS cannot seize bank accounts or dock wages to collect it. No interest accumulates for unpaid penalties.

So how can the IRS enforce the mandate? Scary letters and threats to withhold tax refunds.

The law allows the IRS to withhold tax refunds to collect the penalty, and most filers get refunds. This year, 77 percent of the 135 million individual income tax returns processed by the IRS qualified for a refund. The average refund: $2,707.

For those who don't qualify for a refund, a stern letter from the IRS can be effective, even if it doesn't come with the threat of civil or criminal penalties, said Elizabeth Maresca, a former IRS trial attorney who supervises the Tax & Consumer Litigation Clinic at the Fordham University law school.

"Most people pay because they're scared, and I don't think that's going to change," Maresca said.

The IRS has not yet issued procedures for taxpayers to prove they have insurance. But IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, in a 2010 speech, said he envisioned a process similar to the one used by taxpayers to report interest or investment income.

Under this scenario, an insurance company would send the taxpayer and the IRS forms each year verifying that the taxpayer has qualified insurance. Taxpayers would file the forms with the IRS along with their returns, and the IRS would check them to make sure they match the information supplied by the insurance companies.

The IRS says it is well on its way to gearing up for the new law but has offered little information about its long-term budget and staffing needs, generating complaints from Republican lawmakers and concern from government watchdogs.

The IRS is expected to spend $881 million on the law from 2010 through 2013, hiring more than 2,700 new workers and upgrading its computer systems. But the IRS has not made public information about its spending plans in the following years, when the bulk of the health care law takes effect.

The lack of information makes it impossible to determine whether the IRS will have adequate workers to enforce the health care law, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration said in a report three weeks ago. The report, however, concluded that "appropriate plans had been developed to implement tax-related provisions" of the law.

In 2010, House Ways and Means Committee Republicans issued a report saying the IRS may need as many as 16,500 additional auditors, agents and other employees "to investigate and collect billions in new taxes from Americans."

That assessment has been widely cited by opponents of the law. The IRS disputes the jobs number but hasn't offered another one.

"That is a made-up number with no basis in fact," IRS spokesman Dean Patterson said in an email. "The 2012 budget calls for about 1,200 employees for the IRS to implement the (Affordable Care Act), and the vast majority of those employees are needed to build technology infrastructure to support payments like the new tax credits for individuals and small businesses."

Republicans on the House committee have accused the IRS of obscuring its cost of putting in place the health care law by absorbing it into in other parts of the agency's budget. They cite a June report by the Government Accountability Office that said the IRS has not always accurately identified spending related to the new health care law.

"The agency's repeated lack of transparency to Congress and its failure to provide accountability to the American taxpayers raises fundamental concerns about implementation authorities vested to the IRS," the top four Republicans on the Ways and Means Committee wrote in a June 27 letter to the IRS commissioner.

The committee chairman, Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., has scheduled a hearing on the tax implications of the Supreme Court's ruling for Tuesday.

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  • BIGK27 2012/07/10 03:38:44
    Goodbye Free America.
    BIGK27
    EVERY HOMEOWNER NEEDS TO KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!! And all of the dunb ass Liberals

    HOME SALES TAX

    I thought you might find this interesting, -- maybe even SICKENING!

    The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, -- before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren't the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012?

    Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It's in the health care bill, -- and it goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be so that it doesn't come to light until after the 2012 elections? So, this is "change you can believe in?"

    Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax. Now you tell me, just what the hell does real estate tax have to do with your healthcare?

    If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, -- who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November, 2012 vote more important?

    Oh, you weren't aware that this was in the ObamaCare bill? Guess what; you aren't alone! There are...



    EVERY HOMEOWNER NEEDS TO KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!! And all of the dunb ass Liberals

    HOME SALES TAX

    I thought you might find this interesting, -- maybe even SICKENING!

    The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, -- before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren't the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012?

    Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It's in the health care bill, -- and it goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be so that it doesn't come to light until after the 2012 elections? So, this is "change you can believe in?"

    Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax. Now you tell me, just what the hell does real estate tax have to do with your healthcare?

    If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, -- who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November, 2012 vote more important?

    Oh, you weren't aware that this was in the ObamaCare bill? Guess what; you aren't alone! There are more than a few members of Congress that weren't aware of it either.

    You can check this out for yourself at: http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04...

    VOTERS NEED TO KNOW.
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  • Goodbye Free America.
    One of Y'shua's,דָּנִיֵּאל
    Just another ENCROACHMENT, this move is TOTALITARIAN and CONTROLLING in one aspect and LEGALIZED ROBBERY by PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISTS regarding CAPITALISM and THEIR PRODUCTS in the other. The TWO MODELS of ECONOMICS do not mix, if and when they do mix, CAPITALISM will get the BLAME every time. It is within the DIATRIBIC MANTRAS of COMMUNISM to use such BLAME. We all should have been programmed by now to believe and understand by now, surely not MAGNANIMOUS and ALL GIVING PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISM( totalitarian communism) could ever be at fault or would they ever do anything regarding like, STEALING FROM THE PEOPLE..NOPE. The all evil capitalism, evil as they are, they are PREDATORY in nature....BULLSH*T, HUMANISM and GREED are the culprits and this move by the TOTALITARIAN COMMUNISM or PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISM are the GREEDY and DISHONEST ONES here and this TAX and control of the MEDICAL FIELD is POWER MOVE TO CONTROL the 10 to 15% of the ECONOMY..tell us when and where and what to buy.

    ONE SHOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT that FORCED GENEROSITY is not GENEROSITY it is THEFT....

    WHEN ONE ECONOMICALLY BASED IDEAL such as CAPITALISM is forced to mix with COMMUNISM, it fails; it has to be ONE or the OTHER, preferably CAPITALISM. Capitalism should always be tethered with HONESTY. Capitalism is ...


    Just another ENCROACHMENT, this move is TOTALITARIAN and CONTROLLING in one aspect and LEGALIZED ROBBERY by PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISTS regarding CAPITALISM and THEIR PRODUCTS in the other. The TWO MODELS of ECONOMICS do not mix, if and when they do mix, CAPITALISM will get the BLAME every time. It is within the DIATRIBIC MANTRAS of COMMUNISM to use such BLAME. We all should have been programmed by now to believe and understand by now, surely not MAGNANIMOUS and ALL GIVING PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISM( totalitarian communism) could ever be at fault or would they ever do anything regarding like, STEALING FROM THE PEOPLE..NOPE. The all evil capitalism, evil as they are, they are PREDATORY in nature....BULLSH*T, HUMANISM and GREED are the culprits and this move by the TOTALITARIAN COMMUNISM or PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISM are the GREEDY and DISHONEST ONES here and this TAX and control of the MEDICAL FIELD is POWER MOVE TO CONTROL the 10 to 15% of the ECONOMY..tell us when and where and what to buy.

    ONE SHOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT that FORCED GENEROSITY is not GENEROSITY it is THEFT....

    WHEN ONE ECONOMICALLY BASED IDEAL such as CAPITALISM is forced to mix with COMMUNISM, it fails; it has to be ONE or the OTHER, preferably CAPITALISM. Capitalism should always be tethered with HONESTY. Capitalism is fitted with safe guards against UNSCRUPULOUS or THIEVING or CAPITALIZING CAPITALISTS or SHODDY PRODUCTS; it is called "the market" which the consumer has the POWER, to buy or not buy. It wasn't until the GOVT got their greedy little hands in the FREE FLOW in the name of CONSUMER JUSTICE (which is needed SOMETIMES...sometimes), but not like it is NOW, it wasn't until then that ALL OF THE SAFEGUARDS were and are IMPEDED.
    Essentially those in power are pushing COMMUNISM or SOCIALISM. Their economic model has never been successful, unless they ENSLAVE, STEAL and their public is LIED TO. No one profits but the GOVT and IT'S CONTROL over the PEOPLE, and no one grows in a healthy manner but the GOVT and that is NOT HEALTHY where the GOVT has FULL CONTROL OVER ONES LIFE..that is not TRUE FREEDOM; NEITHER THEIR PEOPLES nor their COUNTRIES are TRULY FREE. COMMUNISM continue their MARCH and GAIN WEALTH by no competition of IDEAS or PRODUCTS but by THEFT of the PEOPLES FREEDOMS and INDIVIDUAL WEALTH. Now we will be forced to BUY CERTAIN PRODUCTS REGARDLESS OF COMPETENCE OR WORKMANSHIP that is where CAPITALISM is being intruded upon by COMMUNISM; buy or else the GOVT WILL PENALIZE YOU, or as we also saw, THE GOVT WILL BAIL YOU OUT, if you push THEIR IDEALS and PRODUCTS.

    TAX is another form of LEGALIZED ROBBERY, which feeds the TRULY 1 to 5%-ers...the GOVT....and their minions that daily do their BIDDING...
    (more)
  • Roger 2012/07/08 00:45:13 (edited)
    What Do You Think?
    Roger
    +1
    "If" Obama wins re-election, and "if" the democrats retain power in the Senate, or gain control of the house, I say yes; Goodbye Free America. The only logical next step to such a large expansion of Government is to not fight to get the money from the people but to instead get the money first, take what they want, and return what is left I.E...Communism. Some may say that point of view is an over reaction but really it isn't. It is the logical evolution of increased expansion of government control.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/07/08 00:27:57 (edited)
  • stevmackey 2012/07/08 00:27:25
    Care To Comment?
    stevmackey
    +1
    Not if we can get it repealed. The way to do that is to for the same healthcare on the House and Senate. They would not stand for that treatment.
  • NPC 2012/07/08 00:25:44
    Goodbye Free America.
    NPC
    +1
    OBlamerCare can still be repealed by a new POTUS and new GOP Senate elected on November 6th. Pray the voters have a lick of sense this time ?

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