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The socialist obama exposed. How can you liberals sit their and lie through your tooth and deny he is a socialist?? Good luck proving otherwise! LMAO!

SK-pro impeachment 2012/02/14 20:00:55
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  • Kara ~~~ American Patriot 2012/02/18 07:27:18
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    Kara ~~~ American Patriot
    +2
    The Liberals do not wan to hear anything. They are so blind-sighted
    I can t hear you
  • Sawdust_128 2012/02/17 23:49:25
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    Sawdust_128
    +2
    ............... and he is even bad at that.
  • SK-pro ... Sawdust... 2012/02/17 23:55:50 (edited)
    SK-pro impeachment
    +3
    Like a bad magician!

    Make all your money disappear? I, barak the magnificent, meant to do that.
  • Sawdust... SK-pro ... 2012/02/18 00:08:23
    Sawdust_128
    +2
    You got it.........
  • Questionman2 2012/02/15 20:53:44
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    Questionman2
    +2
    [...]
    Obama is a democrat, most black people are democrats, so no shock they vote for him. Obama is a democrat, most democrats support social safety nets, no shock he supports those policies. Unfortunately most black people come from low socio-economic backgrounds, people from low socio-economic backgrounds understandably appreciate social safety nets, so no surprises most black people are in favor of those safety nets which democrats, like Obama, support.

    Therefore, there is no good reason to think any substantial portion of black people voted for Obama but would have otherwise voted Republican had he not been black.


    Most people opposed to Obama aren't racist, but most racists are opposed to Obama. this too should not shock anyone. that Obama has racists fighting him is neither an incorrect statement, nor necessarily an accusation of all Republicans (though of course there are nut jobs who will suggest this, no normal person believes that only racists don't like Obama).
  • Wahvlvke 2012/02/15 13:37:11
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    Wahvlvke
    +2
    Easily discernable by his own words and actions.
  • Bikermike 2012/02/15 13:34:50 (edited)
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    Bikermike
    +2
    Of coarse he is...that's no longer debatable. He sure isn't a capitalist....

    Try asking HIM to deny it!!!
  • T J 2012/02/15 13:16:25 (edited)
    no i'm a koolaid drinking sheeple and am in complete denial.
    T J
    The only kool-aid drinking sheeple who is in complete denial is you if you think Obama is a socialist marxist. You obviously have no idea what socialism is. I would tell you but kaleokualoha pretty much said it all.
  • Bikermike T J 2012/02/15 23:50:55 (edited)
    Bikermike
    +1
    So you believe Obama is a capitalist?
  • ed 2012/02/15 10:23:23
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    ed
    +2
    MOST LIBERALS HAVE BEEN JOBLESS SINCE OBAMA HAS BEEN IN OFFICE SO THEY HAVE HAD PLENTY OF TIME ON THEIR HANDS AND SITTING ON THEIR BUTTS IS EASY FOR THEM.
  • golem48 2012/02/15 09:03:56
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    golem48
    +2
    Strictly speaking, he is a national socialist. Kill small businesses and have the large conglomerates do his bidding, and in return, become wealthier. Think Krupp and I.G. Farben..
  • D D golem48 2012/02/15 16:00:24
    D D
    +1
    He does not love this nation, but he will put that aside to be president.
  • jimmy golem48 2012/02/15 17:03:50
    jimmy
    +1
    SO TRUE
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/02/15 08:16:31 (edited)
    no i'm a koolaid drinking sheeple and am in complete denial.
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    What a bunch of nonsense! Just as Chicken Little started a "sky is falling" hysteria based on a falling acorn, so too are various critics pushing a "socialist" or "Marxist" Obama hysteria based on Obama's economic policies. Not only do they conveniently forget that the 2008 bailout was initiated by the Bush administration, but they also seem to have forgotten some basics from Econ 101. They could easily avoid such non sequitur nonsense by following the evidence instead of jumping to conclusions.

    According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In Marxist theory, it is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles."

    Please note that it is the stage FOLLOWING capitalism. Capitalism has many forms in a mixed economy, with public (collective) ownership of various enterprises based upon economic conditions. Limited public ownership does not comprise Marxist socialism, which requires complete public ownership. When controlled by a police state, however, limited public ownership may become fa...

























    What a bunch of nonsense! Just as Chicken Little started a "sky is falling" hysteria based on a falling acorn, so too are various critics pushing a "socialist" or "Marxist" Obama hysteria based on Obama's economic policies. Not only do they conveniently forget that the 2008 bailout was initiated by the Bush administration, but they also seem to have forgotten some basics from Econ 101. They could easily avoid such non sequitur nonsense by following the evidence instead of jumping to conclusions.

    According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In Marxist theory, it is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles."

    Please note that it is the stage FOLLOWING capitalism. Capitalism has many forms in a mixed economy, with public (collective) ownership of various enterprises based upon economic conditions. Limited public ownership does not comprise Marxist socialism, which requires complete public ownership. When controlled by a police state, however, limited public ownership may become fascism ("national socialism"), Marxist socialism, or even "perfect implementation of collectivist principles." Limited public ownership occurs at virtually every point on the mixed economy spectrum.

    Every advocate of greater government economic control might be called a "socialist," but none are true socialists unless they advocate the complete elimination of private enterprise, which requires the complete replacement of capitalism with collectivism. True (laissez-faire) capitalism means zero government control of private enterprise, which is economic anarchy. Neither of these extremes works in the long run. Every successful economy is a mixed economy, existing somewhere on a spectrum between both extremes. Every successful economy is part capitalist and part socialist. They all contain a mix of private and public ownership, and they all have some government control of private enterprise. The only relevant question is "WHERE on this spectrum can we achieve the greatest success?" The rise of Asian economies, with their varying degrees of centralized planning, proves that economic planning helps economic development.

    Both laissez faire capitalism and true communism are artificial constructs, as impossible to sustain as cold fusion. Every successful society requires private enterprise regulated by public policy, regardless of Ayn Rand's fantasies. Extremists on either fringe are equally delusional. In some ways regulation is a necessary evil like body fat: too much or too little are both lethal. The normal tendency is to add layers with age. The challenge is to find the level that will produce the optimum outcome, all things considered.

    Unless someone advocates the complete replacement of capitalism with collectivism, they do not truly advocate socialism or communism. To accuse them of either, when they have not explicitly advocated as much themselves, suggests either unfamiliarity with mixed economies or intellectual dishonesty. Even George W. Bush and John McCain were accused of advocating socialism based upon their support of 2008 bailout legislation.

    The bottom line is simple. If you consider any variation of a mixed economy, including ANY public ownership or regulation of industry to be "socialism," then the United States and ALL other economies are "socialist." The debate is over, because by that definition we have been "socialist" since the 18th century. If you only consider complete collectivism to be "socialism," according to Marxist theory, then no successful economy is actually "socialist." The closest to a Marxist socialist economy is the economic basket case, North Korea. If you consider socialism to occur at some other point on the spectrum between unregulated capitalism and Marxist socialism, then any such point would be arbitrary.

    To accuse a mixed economy advocate of being a socialist or communist suggests that you believe that ANY degree of government regulation qualifies as "socialism," or that you believe that any regulation beyond an indefinite "trigger point" qualifies as "socialism,", and that YOU get to set the trigger point. The "trigger point" explanation reminds me of the egocentric explorer who says that anyone who explores farther into dangerous territory is a fool, but anyone who doesn’t explore as far as he does is a coward. His arrogance presumes that his own boundaries are common standards.

    Marxist "socialism," in contrast to European "democratic socialism," requires collective ownership of the means of production in lieu of capitalism. That is the death of private enterprise. We may or may not be on a path to collectivism, just as a dating couple may or may not be on a path to pregnancy. Traveling on a path in any direction does not imply any specific goal. For example, traveling on Interstate 10 does not imply that either coast is the goal.

    "Direction" is one thing. "Goal" is another. All mixed economies exist at some point in the spectrum between the fatal terminuses of unregulated capitalism and true socialism. In history, socialism/communism was reversed and capitalism reappeared as people recognized the lethal consequences of such extremes. Russia, China and other communist nations now recognize the virtue of mixed economies. They learned the hard way.

    I await empirical evidence, instead of specious speculation, that Obama wants to eliminate capitalism by moving to that extreme. To say Obama advocates the goal of socialism, based upon his movement on the spectrum instead of being based on his explicit advocacy, is to create a straw man. It is intellectually dishonest and unworthy of serious debate.

    BTW: The cowardly original poster has blocked me to prevent responses to comments regarding this post, so here is additional info regarding the 2008 bailout:

    [QUOTE]
    The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Division A of Pub.L. 110-343, 122 Stat. 3765, enacted October 3, 2008, commonly referred to as a bailout of the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis authorizing the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend up to US$700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities, and make capital injections into banks (however, the plan to purchase distressed assets has been abandoned).[1][2] Both foreign and domestic banks are included in the program. The Federal Reserve also extended help to American Express, whose bank-holding application it recently approved.[3] The Act was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during the global financial crisis of 2008.
    [END QUOTE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ]


    "Truth is generally the best vindication against slander."
    - Abraham Lincoln
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  • SK-pro ... Kaleoku... 2012/02/15 09:48:20
  • Hawkeye SK-pro ... 2012/02/15 12:17:21
    Hawkeye
    +4
    Isn't it amazing that when the bailouts are being criticized it was ALL Bush's fault even though it was a DEMOCRAT CONGRESS,, under Pelosi and Reid and Obama,, that both came UP with and PASSED the bailouts yet when those very SAME bailouts are being PRAISED Obama TAKES the credit for saving the Auto Industry??
  • SK-pro ... Hawkeye 2012/02/15 17:53:20
    SK-pro impeachment
    +1
    Sure is! When you look at a list of his "achievements" as one lib gave a link to, most of the so called achievements on the list they brag about are things that have taken us backwards and into debt. They may think it's an achievement because some of them only benefit the libturds and there agenda and not the country as a whole.
  • Hawkeye SK-pro ... 2012/02/15 18:40:00
    Hawkeye
    +2
    Oh definately.. Or the UNIONS or any of the other Obama Donaters..

    Obama's GEATEST achievemnents are those that invovle the PAYBACK for his election..
  • Hawkeye Kaleoku... 2012/02/15 12:14:10
    Hawkeye
    +2
    The definition of Socialism,, as YOU rightfully conveyed,, fits Obama to a tee.. ESPECIALLY the "Staged Redistribution of Wealth " part..

    NOBODY said that he was a SUCCESSFUL Socialist's.. He's STILL a Socialist's President running roughshod over a Capitalist's America.. It remains to be seen whether America will become a European style Socialist's State or NOT..

    And that part about Property rights?? EVERY day the Citizens of America see their Constitutional Rights being eroded under THIS and past administrations and THAT includes Property rights as well.. MORE and MORE the STATE is imposing it's will on the American Citizen and more and more Americans are chafing under the burdens that GOVERNMENT imposes upon them..

    From the unlimited powers of Imminent Domain to the attacks of Christian Religions to the FORCED policies of this dictator America is being "Fundamentally Changed" into a carbon copy of the VERY Socialism that tuened Europe into the economic disaster that it is today.. EVEN Germany who cast OFF the shackles of Socialism in time to avoid a Greece type scenario will nevertheless be adversly effected by the Failure of that iunfortunate nation..

    WE can STILL avoid that and we WILL come November when America REJECTS Socialism once and for ALL in favor of the American Prescription for success that has made this country ONCE the most powerful and prosperous nation in the world..
  • T J Hawkeye 2012/02/15 13:20:57
    T J
    Not even Ron Paul thinks Obama is a socialist, in fact he referred to him as a corporatist.

  • Hawkeye T J 2012/02/15 13:46:06
    Hawkeye
    +2
    With ALL due respect to Ron Paul.. It has becomes ALMOST as taboo in this country to call a Socialist what he is as it's become all too popular on the left to falsely accuse ALL others of racism..

    The English language has been held HOSTAGE by the Left for FAR too long and it's NOT all because of the Left.. When the RIGHT allows themselves to be limited by the NAZI-like dictates amd limitations of Left Wing defined Political Correctness,, THEY are as guilty for the LOSS in Freedom of Speech as the oppressors..

    Obama's NOT a Socialist because I call him a Socialist nor is he NOT a Socialist because Paul REFUSES to DO so..

    He is a Socialist because he BELIEVES in Socialism whether that belief is expressed in his SICK and Perverted sense of Social Justice through the Socialist's Doctrine of Redistribution of Wealth or his BIG Government policies that infringe and impose themselves upon the FREEDOMS and LIBERTIES of the American People AGAINST their WILL....
  • SK-pro ... T J 2012/02/15 17:57:27 (edited)
    SK-pro impeachment
    RP is a political retard. And has his hand up bawnie fwanks arse. of course he's going to defend the marxist in chief.
  • AL T J 2012/02/16 00:44:25
    AL
    LMAO! Now that is real funny alright! Since alot of Conservatives think Paul is a bone head when it comes to National defence and illegal drug use!
  • D D Hawkeye 2012/02/15 16:12:53
    D D
    +2
    "And that part about Property rights?? EVERY day the Citizens of America see their Constitutional Rights being eroded under THIS and past administrations and THAT includes Property rights as well.. MORE and MORE the STATE is imposing it's will on the American Citizen and more and more Americans are chafing under the burdens that GOVERNMENT imposes upon them.."

    AGENDA 21 vehicle ownership and private property...taking that away. It includes other subjects as well. I am not an expert on it, but you might be interested in it.
  • D D Kaleoku... 2012/02/15 16:15:30
    D D
    +2
    You might want to check out Agenda 21. It covers a variety of subjects, one is public ownership, doing away with it. That is socialist/communist bigtime.
  • AL 2012/02/15 07:50:02
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    AL
    +2
    Dead on! What do they think Obama's share the Wealth really means anyway? And yet the damn hypocrite, has his own Aunt on the Government dole-and he only gives 1% of his own money to charirty as well!
  • Walt 2012/02/15 05:34:14
    Obama is a socialist marxist
    Walt
    +2
    How do we know liberals invented the toothbrush?

    Because if it had been invented by a Conservative, it would be called a teethbrush.
  • SK-pro ... Walt 2012/02/15 05:35:51
  • urwutuis 2012/02/15 05:29:02
    no i'm a koolaid drinking sheeple and am in complete denial.
    urwutuis
    +2
    Yet another clueless right wing post.
    Obama has done nothing to advance socialism regardless of his affiliations or personal beliefs and if you had any clue what Socialism actually is you wouldn't be so paranoid about it.
    The propaganda you continually suckle on has removed your objectivity.
  • Kaleoku... urwutuis 2012/02/15 08:18:41
    Kaleokualoha
    +2
    Indeed! RWNJ "evidence" mostly consists of guilt-by-association rather than advocating collectivism. PolitiFact.com calls the "socialist" charge a PANTS ON FIRE LIE! See http://www.politifact.com/tex...

    [QUOTE]
    Conservative economist Bruce Bartlett told PolitiFact: "Socialism means public ownership of the means of production. Obama does not believe this. Therefore he is not a socialist. … Although it is true that the federal government did come to own some private businesses as a consequence of bailout policies initiated by the George W. Bush administration such as (the Troubled Asset Relief Program), the Obama administration sold many of them — such as its shares in GM — as quickly as feasible. A true socialist would have held on to them."
    [END QUOTE]

    Those fringe elements who consider Obama to be a "socialist" lack the perspective of socialism that ACTUAL socialists enjoy. It may therefore prove useful to examine Obama's policies from the perspective of avowed socialists:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/...

    http://www.laprogressive.com/...

    http://www.examiner.com/worce...

    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-...

    http://wspus.org/2008/09/is-o...

    http://www.peaceandfreedom.or...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com...

    http://socialistparty-usa.org... (refutes State of the ...
















    Indeed! RWNJ "evidence" mostly consists of guilt-by-association rather than advocating collectivism. PolitiFact.com calls the "socialist" charge a PANTS ON FIRE LIE! See http://www.politifact.com/tex...

    [QUOTE]
    Conservative economist Bruce Bartlett told PolitiFact: "Socialism means public ownership of the means of production. Obama does not believe this. Therefore he is not a socialist. … Although it is true that the federal government did come to own some private businesses as a consequence of bailout policies initiated by the George W. Bush administration such as (the Troubled Asset Relief Program), the Obama administration sold many of them — such as its shares in GM — as quickly as feasible. A true socialist would have held on to them."
    [END QUOTE]

    Those fringe elements who consider Obama to be a "socialist" lack the perspective of socialism that ACTUAL socialists enjoy. It may therefore prove useful to examine Obama's policies from the perspective of avowed socialists:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/...

    http://www.laprogressive.com/...

    http://www.examiner.com/worce...

    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-...

    http://wspus.org/2008/09/is-o...

    http://www.peaceandfreedom.or...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com...

    http://socialistparty-usa.org... (refutes State of the Union speech)

    http://socialistparty-usa.org... (rejects "Obamacare")


    Authored by World Socialist Party US:
    [QUOTE]
    "Is Obama a socialist? He does not regard himself as one. Neither do we. This issue of World Socialist Review examines Obama's outlook and life story, his packaging as a politician, and his policy in such areas as healthcare, the economy, and the environment. It also places Obama in the context of world capitalism and the American political system.

    World Socialist Review is published by the World Socialist Party of the United States, which forms part of the World Socialist Movement together with companion parties and groups in other countries. For further information and literature on other topics, please go to our website at http://wspus.org"
    [END QUOTE https://www.createspace.com/3... World Socialist Review 22]

    Those on the fringe of any group often lack the perspective to accurately gauge the position of others near the center or on the other side of the group. To a dwarf, people of average height may seem tall.



    "The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth."
    - Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
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  • urwutuis Kaleoku... 2012/02/15 18:20:24
    urwutuis
    +1
    It seems conservatives lack the ability to formulate an opinion based in reality and merely parrot the opinion given to them by the right wing propaganda machine.
    I find almost impossible to believe they didn't jump ship when the GOP claimed it's main agenda as making Obama a 1 term pres.
    I couldn't believe my ears when I heard it. They basically said they were going to do everything they could to tank the economy, and keep unemployment as high as possible and conservatives were all for it.
    That's when I realized there was definitely a hole in the bucket.
  • JHalden87 2012/02/15 04:26:42
    no i'm a koolaid drinking sheeple and am in complete denial.
    JHalden87
    +3
    Marxism is an extreme form of socialism, you're either a socialist or a Marxist not a 'socialist Marxist'.

    That's point A.

    Point B is where is you proof in his enacted policies (NOT speculated 'Obama wants to take our guns) that he is anything like Marx?

    And last I checked America wasn't even at the stage of primitive communism which precedes Marxism.

    And has Obama controlled the US economy's employers to the extent where he controls production of goods?

    And has he, in any way, united the working class and scaled down big companies?

    You clearly must have slept through the past 3 years of US law and politics, you know the fact that big corporations continue to rule government and campaigns. You know the law where corporations are now 'people' and money=speech.

    You have no concept of Marxism, Obama has been centrist in his policies if anything. The watered down social healthcare which is described as socialist in one country alone - America.

    Has he empowered social justice in America or even contemplated taxing the wealthy at 70% or over?

    You need a dose of reality, if you want Marxism find a time machine and go back to early 20th century Russia.

    All these 'fancy words' people on this site band around on a whim 'Marxist' or 'Nazi' it's so wrong and over the top it's ri...

    Marxism is an extreme form of socialism, you're either a socialist or a Marxist not a 'socialist Marxist'.

    That's point A.

    Point B is where is you proof in his enacted policies (NOT speculated 'Obama wants to take our guns) that he is anything like Marx?

    And last I checked America wasn't even at the stage of primitive communism which precedes Marxism.

    And has Obama controlled the US economy's employers to the extent where he controls production of goods?

    And has he, in any way, united the working class and scaled down big companies?

    You clearly must have slept through the past 3 years of US law and politics, you know the fact that big corporations continue to rule government and campaigns. You know the law where corporations are now 'people' and money=speech.

    You have no concept of Marxism, Obama has been centrist in his policies if anything. The watered down social healthcare which is described as socialist in one country alone - America.

    Has he empowered social justice in America or even contemplated taxing the wealthy at 70% or over?

    You need a dose of reality, if you want Marxism find a time machine and go back to early 20th century Russia.

    All these 'fancy words' people on this site band around on a whim 'Marxist' or 'Nazi' it's so wrong and over the top it's ridiculous. I heard one guy compare what Obama did, his compromise, on contraception with the catholic church similar to Hitler and the Nazi's persecution of religion.

    ...What's the point, no one will take any notice. I pray for your children and hope they grow up in a better political environment than you have because these 'big words' you all use are plain - undeniably - wrong in every aspect yet you use them with the confidence that you're right.
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  • SK-pro ... JHalden87 2012/02/15 05:29:37
    SK-pro impeachment
    blah blah blah. Didn't watch the video did you? if you did you wouldn't aske where's the proof. another delusion liberal exposed. thanks for stopping by.
  • JHalden87 SK-pro ... 2012/02/15 06:04:25 (edited)
    JHalden87
    +2
    That 'blah,blah,blah' comment sums the problem with America up.

    I have a degree in UK/US politics, I've studied the rise of Stalinism/Leninism along with their various influences and differences from Marxism. I've actually been to a remote Russian region of Dagestan in Makhachkala and spent 3 weeks observing how their system works along with finding whether the influences of Lenin/Stalin/Marx are felt in everyday life for the modern Russian.

    I've been detained by Russian police for 'passport discrepancies' when I tried to conduct a survey in a Russian street asking whether they as consumers wanted more rights, protections and powers.

    But no, that video clearly show I know nothing and you're all geniuses who know the 'truth'.
  • SK-pro ... JHalden87 2012/02/15 06:51:48 (edited)
    SK-pro impeachment
    Well then you should know that he is then. What happened did you forget everything you learned?
  • T J SK-pro ... 2012/02/15 13:22:38
    T J
    He, unlike you, knows what he's talking about. You should just STFU.
  • SK-pro ... T J 2012/02/15 18:01:43
    SK-pro impeachment
    4Q
  • Not A Fool SK-pro ... 2012/02/15 18:36:40
    Not A Fool
    +1
    The retort of the ignorant.
  • SK-pro ... Not A Fool 2012/02/15 18:41:47
    SK-pro impeachment
    that's why i blocked his troll ass. and the other a..hole as well for conversing with him.
  • Not A Fool SK-pro ... 2012/02/15 18:50:11
    Not A Fool
    I was referring to you, imbecile. You'd make a great dictator, blocking people you don't like, and then blocking the people who might converse with people you don't like. You're a small, petty tyrant of a boy. "I'm going to block you, 'cause I don't like you". Waa, waa, waa.

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