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The Republican War on Vegetables

Not Einstein 2012/08/04 21:32:58
I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down prices and lower the use of water
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August 04, 2012 11:52 AM
The Republican War on Vegetables: Latest Salvo

By Kathleen Geier

Over at Salon, David Sirota reports from the frontlines of what Amanda Marcotte has amusingly dubbed “The Republican War on Vegetables.”
Sirota notes that, in response to the worst drought since 1950, “food
prices are expected to skyrocket, and eventually, water-dependent power
plants may be forced to shut down.”



In response to what amounts to a devastating national emergency, the
USDA, in an inter-office newsletter circulated to employees, suggested
(but in no way required) that those employees join the worldwide
campaign to refrain from eating meat on Mondays. Sirota explains:

The idea is part of the worldwide “Meatless Monday”
campaign, which the New York Times notes is backed by “thousands of
corporate cafeterias, restaurants and schools.” In the face of a
drought, it’s a pragmatic notion. Cornell University researchers
estimate that “producing a pound of animal protein requires, on average,
about 100 times more water than producing a pound of vegetable
protein.” According to the U.S. Geological Survey, that means a typical
hamburger requires a whopping 4,000 to 18,000 gallons of water to make.


So how did the right react to this (genuinely) modest proposal? Sirota enumerates some of the ways:



Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, called the recommendation “heresy”
and pledged to “have the double rib-eye Mondays instead.” Sen. Chuck
Grassley, R-Iowa, told his drought-stricken constituents that “I will
eat more meat on Monday to compensate” for the USDA suggestion. And Sen.
John Cornyn, R-Texas, proudly posted a photo to his Facebook page
showing a Caligulian smorgasbord of animal flesh that his Senate
colleagues were preparing to scarf down as a protest against USDA.


It should be well and duly noted that all three of those fine upstanding fellows are deep in the pockets of the meat industry.



I was fascinated by the ridiculous temper tantrum these three
stooges staged, because it’s a pitch-perfect illustration not only of
how the wingnut outrage machine works, but how the economic and cultural
arms of the conservative movement not only work hand in glove, but are
pretty much the same thing. Doing the bidding of the meat industry,
Grassley and company are dedicated, of course, to squelching any
initiative that has the word “meatless” in it. But cleverly, they don’t
make dry economic arguments; what they do, is turn it into a culture war
— into identity politics, really. Suddenly, eating animal flesh means
you’re a real man, a true blue conservative, and the kind of two-fisted
red-blooded American who stands up to socialistic pointy-headed
bureaucrats, by gawd. As we’ve seen with the Chick-fil-A controversy,
even food preferences have become a proxy for politics.



You really are what you eat, indeed.



Alas, the piece of absurdist political performance art put on by
Grassley (and isn’t he supposed to be one of the “reasonable” ones?) et
al. had its effect. In a statement released after the trio’s antics, the
USDA meekly announced
that it “does not endorse Meatless Monday.” According to a news report,
the department said that “[t]he information on its website ‘was posted
without proper clearance and it has been removed.’”



If this is the Obama administration’s reaction to an unofficial, internal, nonbinding, suggestion
that, in the midst of a cataclysmic agricultural emergency, its
employees in one freaking agency forego meat for just one day per week?
Don’t even talk to me about global warming, folks. We are doomed, I say!
Utterly, totally, absolutely doomed.



Okay, that was a total bummer. Let me find a cool music video to cheer me up, and hopefully you as well.

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  • Mr. T 2012/08/04 21:53:33
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Mr. T
    +7
    I agree...Republicans do have a "war on vegetables"....Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Holder, etc., etc., etc.

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  • freedomsox 2012/09/28 17:09:26
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    freedomsox
    I'm nobodies puppet, I'll eat meat when I want to. I don't even eat it that much.
  • Archer ~ The Limit Break of... 2012/09/28 15:18:43
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    Archer ~ The Limit Break of PHAET
    +1
    Oh for goodness sake people - IT'S A FLIPPING SUGGESTION, and it HELPS YOU IN THE LONG RUN.

    *headdesk*

    I swear people will shoot themselves in the foot if Obama or the government in general suggested you did not, because it would hurt and potentially would put you at risk of death.

    It's a suggestion. A request to help keep the price of meat down due to the drought in the midwest and the inability to keep animals properly fed. It is not a mandate. It is not some requirement. But it'll help get us through next year without skyrocketing meat prices.

    For goodness sake, people - GROW THE FARK UP.
  • Dagon 2012/09/28 05:39:09
  • nerak611 2012/09/28 05:16:43
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    nerak611
    +1
    Not a problem to conserve water.
  • aneed2know 2012/08/07 05:31:51
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    aneed2know
    +1
    those dirty veggies, how dare they come in and interfere with my right to eat what was formally known as meat even though they glue bits and pieces together and make the rest into slime. How dare those dirty veggies.
  • Piperpc 2012/08/06 18:22:02
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    Piperpc
    +1
    How disgustingly wimpy, of the USDA. I don't eat animals, but I don't see how the suggestion of a Meatless Monday could be a 'threat' to anyone, even the powerful meat industry.
  • Dave**Gay for Girls** 2012/08/06 18:03:48
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Dave**Gay for Girls**
    Excuse me lunch is ready!
    grilled steak
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/08/06 17:58:51
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    NarcolepticGoat
    +1
    It may not be Monday. I don't eat meat every day.
  • HL 2012/08/06 15:23:46
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    HL
    +1
    I have to becarefull of the RW vegetables we have plenty on this site and huge cabbage named Romney! Cabbage Head Romney
  • rustyshackelford 2012/08/05 09:46:17
  • mach 2012/08/05 02:47:31
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    mach
    +1
    Sounds like a practical voluntary measure. Maybe a filet of salmon or simply leftovers of the BBQ or meat loaf on Sunday.
    Ya know, these well off hypocrites don't really care about conservation of any kind because they know that they'll be getting whatever scarcities are available simply by wealth or control of those scarcities. Only the poor and middle class will be fighting for the scraps.
  • American 2012/08/05 02:26:11
  • flrdsgns 2012/08/05 01:16:57
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    flrdsgns
    +3
    Since I'm vegan, meatless Mondays is very easy for me lol
  • Beccy 2012/08/05 00:07:33
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    Beccy
    +2
    As the depression deepens I think we will all see a change in how we live
  • Bob DiN 2012/08/04 23:53:32
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Bob DiN
    +1
    War on vegetables? What a stupid remark. Today everything is a war. I think drugs are rotting out peoples brains. You have to be one sick puppy to dream up all this war crap.
  • Golanv (Raven) BN0 2012/08/04 23:49:40
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    Golanv (Raven) BN0
    +4
    I rarely eat meat anyway; I've known too many animals on a first name basis and I love vegetables. Especially good idea with the drought going on.
    beautiful vegetables
  • Cap 2012/08/04 23:17:38
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Cap
    +3
    This is far from the answer I would like to have selected, but, when authors of polls chose to impose ridiculous limitations on those responding to their questions, they shouldn't be surprised when those responding resolve an ambiguity as to which answer they dislike the least in favor of the answer they think the person who composed the answers least likes. Not that I'm likely to have much to say that NotEinstein and Kathleen Geier would like, anyway.

    My principal suggestion to NotE and Ms. Geier is that they arrange for a picnic luncheon at the seashore where they spread out their blanket and their tofu delectables at low tide and command the sea to stay its movement until they are done. In due time, assuming they take reasonable time to savor their food as nutritionists now recommend, they will be engulfed by the forces they sought to command. Then why do I suggest that they engage in this update of the Legend of Cnut? Because the three representatives cited in the story all come from districts where meat-production is a big business. NotE and KG would have you see it that there is some sort of Republican/Democratic dichotomy here. KMA. What is in evidence here is that politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, engage in political dramas in support of businesses th...
    This is far from the answer I would like to have selected, but, when authors of polls chose to impose ridiculous limitations on those responding to their questions, they shouldn't be surprised when those responding resolve an ambiguity as to which answer they dislike the least in favor of the answer they think the person who composed the answers least likes. Not that I'm likely to have much to say that NotEinstein and Kathleen Geier would like, anyway.

    My principal suggestion to NotE and Ms. Geier is that they arrange for a picnic luncheon at the seashore where they spread out their blanket and their tofu delectables at low tide and command the sea to stay its movement until they are done. In due time, assuming they take reasonable time to savor their food as nutritionists now recommend, they will be engulfed by the forces they sought to command. Then why do I suggest that they engage in this update of the Legend of Cnut? Because the three representatives cited in the story all come from districts where meat-production is a big business. NotE and KG would have you see it that there is some sort of Republican/Democratic dichotomy here. KMA. What is in evidence here is that politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, engage in political dramas in support of businesses that are important to their constituents and - IMHO - King Cnut had more hope of bending the tides to his will than we do of turning around the truism of modern politics to which I just made reference.
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  • Cyan9 2012/08/04 23:14:45
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    Cyan9
    +4
    I'm a vegeterian; everyday is meatless monday for me. :D I do however support the idea of reducing one's meat consumption. The average American gets twice the daily recommend amount of protein and it takes significantly more energy and resources to produce meat. It strains not only the environment and economy but our health as well. Meat consumption and heart disease have been correlated for a very long time. That's not to say meat is unhealthy, it is to say that most people would be healthier by eating a little less. I can't understand the visceral reaction to the simple statement that we would be better off if more of us decided to eat less meat. It's completely nonsensical and shouldn't even be a political question. Ideas like Meatless Monday are just common sense.
  • Tastentier 2012/08/04 23:05:15 (edited)
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Tastentier
    +1
    Never mind my answer, I had to pick something in order to post here :) I might have fish on Monday. Anyway, there is more than one outrage machine at work here. The outrage / propaganda war started with this oversimplified nonsense: "According to the U.S. Geological Survey, ... a typical hamburger requires a whopping 4,000 to 18,000 gallons of water to make."

    According to this logic, everyone should grab their gun, head into the woods and kill the local wildlife because those filthy animals use up all our precious water :) Every gallon they drink simply vanishes into thin air, never to be reintroduced into the environment.
    Of course things aren't quite as simple as that. Republican politicians might not be the most ecology savvy people, but even they recognize BS when they see it and answer in the same fashion. Simplistic nonsense in, simplistic nonsense out.

    There is a much more important food-related problem, imho: A large number of U.S. citizens, probably the majority, will eat neither vegetables nor meat on Monday. Instead, they will dine on something cheap, processed and MSG- or HFCS-enhanced that comes in a colorful plastic wrapper or cardboard box and could contain just about anything. Such as wood pulp, which is added to many baked goods nowadays because it's cheaper th...

    Never mind my answer, I had to pick something in order to post here :) I might have fish on Monday. Anyway, there is more than one outrage machine at work here. The outrage / propaganda war started with this oversimplified nonsense: "According to the U.S. Geological Survey, ... a typical hamburger requires a whopping 4,000 to 18,000 gallons of water to make."

    According to this logic, everyone should grab their gun, head into the woods and kill the local wildlife because those filthy animals use up all our precious water :) Every gallon they drink simply vanishes into thin air, never to be reintroduced into the environment.
    Of course things aren't quite as simple as that. Republican politicians might not be the most ecology savvy people, but even they recognize BS when they see it and answer in the same fashion. Simplistic nonsense in, simplistic nonsense out.

    There is a much more important food-related problem, imho: A large number of U.S. citizens, probably the majority, will eat neither vegetables nor meat on Monday. Instead, they will dine on something cheap, processed and MSG- or HFCS-enhanced that comes in a colorful plastic wrapper or cardboard box and could contain just about anything. Such as wood pulp, which is added to many baked goods nowadays because it's cheaper than flour. (I bet trees require even less water than healthy vegetables).

    And here we are pretending that ordinary middle class people can still afford fresh meat and vegetables like some sort of billionaire :) Or that anyone would have time to cook in between working 2-3 jobs. Or that the MSG- and sugar-addicted masses would even want to eat real food given the choice. That's a far more urgent concern imho.
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  • Manwë 2012/08/04 22:45:27
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    Manwë
    +2
    Many times a salad is our main course so it's not hard to do this.
  • aherbert 2012/08/04 22:42:56
    I will participate in 'Meatless Monday' to lessen the demand, help hold down ...
    aherbert
    +6
    We do not need to consume so much meat ... fruits and vegetables are best ... now I love meat but a good salad will be great ... we must take care of mother earth and our bodies ...

    michelle obama eat healthy
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/08/04 22:30:02
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +1
    The war is against food fascism, I tire of the nazi's who want to dictate everything we do. Move to NY and live with nanny Bloomberg if that's the kind of thing you want. Afterall, we've got Democrats advocating the burning of corn! That's a war on a vegetable!
  • Cyan9 Gracie ... 2012/08/04 23:19:43
    Cyan9
    +4
    Except announcing the benefits of lessening one's meat consumption has nothing to do with fascism or forcing anything on anyone. It's completely elective to decide when and how much meat one eats. People are simply disseminating the factss and letting people decide for themselves. That is how a democracy is suppose to work.
  • Tastentier Cyan9 2012/08/05 00:50:17 (edited)
    Tastentier
    +2
    It's a good idea to remind people to try and eat healthy. But there are two ways to go about this: You can either spread the message "vegetables and fruits contain essential micronutrients, and you need to eat enough of them in order to stay healthy", or you can employ guilt tripping and panic mongering tactics like "meat is murder, burgers kill the rainforests, bovine flatulence contributes to global warming, and chicken farms are just like Auschwitz".

    I think that the latter is much less productive. People don't like to be told "you're evil for doing what comes natural to you". I mean, humans are omnivorous predators by nature. A million years ago, our Homo erectus ancestors were already hunting animals on a daily basis. The first Homo sapiens was likely wrapped in an animal fur right after birth and given chunks of roasted meat as soon as he was old enough to chew solid food.

    Agriculture, on the other hand, has only been around for 7-10,000 years, and has brought us countless civilization diseases such as diabetes and arthritis. Of course that is not an argument against vegetables but rather against cereals and corn. But this also means that the problem is not the burger, it's the bun.

    There is nothing unhealthy about a high protein, low carb diet if you stay clear of proce...
    It's a good idea to remind people to try and eat healthy. But there are two ways to go about this: You can either spread the message "vegetables and fruits contain essential micronutrients, and you need to eat enough of them in order to stay healthy", or you can employ guilt tripping and panic mongering tactics like "meat is murder, burgers kill the rainforests, bovine flatulence contributes to global warming, and chicken farms are just like Auschwitz".

    I think that the latter is much less productive. People don't like to be told "you're evil for doing what comes natural to you". I mean, humans are omnivorous predators by nature. A million years ago, our Homo erectus ancestors were already hunting animals on a daily basis. The first Homo sapiens was likely wrapped in an animal fur right after birth and given chunks of roasted meat as soon as he was old enough to chew solid food.

    Agriculture, on the other hand, has only been around for 7-10,000 years, and has brought us countless civilization diseases such as diabetes and arthritis. Of course that is not an argument against vegetables but rather against cereals and corn. But this also means that the problem is not the burger, it's the bun.

    There is nothing unhealthy about a high protein, low carb diet if you stay clear of processed and preserved meat (the supposed link between meat and cancer turned out to be a link between nitrite curing salts and cancer). Many nutrition experts promote high protein diets, such as the paleolithic diet, over the traditional, grain heavy food pyramid or the equally cereal heavy vegetarian diet. But this valuable information, which has greatly improved my Crohn's disease btw, is droned out by the noise of the anti-meat choir.
    Bottom line: Different people have different dietary needs. Don't make people feel bad for their nutritional choices and requirements.
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  • Cyan9 Tastentier 2012/08/05 01:20:48
    Cyan9
    +2
    If you read my post above, I think it will be clear that I definitely believe the first method is much more effective. Although, I do think that carb-protein balance diets are generally healthier than protein heavy diets, I acknowledge both can be healthy and both have valid amounts of support. I find the various theories about optimal diets to be interesting and have given my vegetarianism a lot of thought. The presence of carnosine seems to be the only definitive advantage that a meat based diet has. It also appears to be why the benefits of a meatless diet declines in old age. You might find this interesting. http://www.1stvitality.co.uk/...
  • Gracie ... Cyan9 2012/08/05 00:54:06
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    Not so in NYC! If it was merely a suggestion, it wouldn't be a problem.
  • Allbiz - PWCM - JLA 2012/08/04 22:15:31 (edited)
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Allbiz - PWCM - JLA
    +2
    SAVE THE VEGETABLES........Eat more meat.

    Maybe if Obama was tlo return the water rights he stole from the farmers out west, we could save the cow too and just eat more chicken....at Chik-fil-A, of course.
  • Cyan9 Allbiz ... 2012/08/04 23:17:01
    Cyan9
    +1
    What are you even talking about?
  • Allbiz ... Cyan9 2012/08/05 00:09:49
    Allbiz - PWCM - JLA
    Dude, you need to learn what's going on in the world. Or......at least your own country.
  • Cyan9 Allbiz ... 2012/08/05 00:57:40
    Cyan9
    I think it's fair to say there is no reason why I would be up to date of federal policies concerning water usage in the midwest. Hence why I asked what you were refering to.
  • Allbiz ... Cyan9 2012/08/05 01:10:49
    Allbiz - PWCM - JLA
    +1
    Obama used power of imminent domain to take water rights away from several western states. Therefore, farmers are being denied needed water. A guy last week was arrested in Oregon for digging a pond a trapping rain water. It seems Obama has also commandeered all rain a melting snow rights in Oregon. Oklahoma is currently having severe forest fires and don't have adequate water to fight them.
  • Barbara... Allbiz ... 2012/08/05 01:20:53
    Barbara Hasler
    +1
    This is part of his agenda to drive us into stacked up living in cities. The Idiot in Chief fails to realize or is intentionally trying to make out nation destitute by shutting off the water. Is this his precursor to genocide? It reminds me of what Stalin did to the Ukraine. He had the citizens grow and havest wheat and then denied them any for consumption thereby starving hundreds of thousands of them to death. It is time for the nut ball to go, before this sadistic behavior becomes prevalent in America. Anyone who agrees with him should seek psychiatric help.
  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/08/04 22:05:51 (edited)
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Rusty Shackleford
  • Mr. T 2012/08/04 21:53:33
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    Mr. T
    +7
    I agree...Republicans do have a "war on vegetables"....Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Holder, etc., etc., etc.
  • Bob DiN Mr. T 2012/08/04 23:49:53
    Bob DiN
    +1
    I think that bunch are lemons which are fruit.
  • Sgt Maj... Mr. T 2012/08/05 04:13:00
    Sgt Major B
    +1
    OUTSTANDING!! ROFLMAO!
  • Daring ... Mr. T 2012/09/28 04:31:54
    Daring Blasphemer BN-0
    +1
    Pretty funny.
  • HL Mr. T 2012/09/28 19:41:21
    HL
    Don't quit your day job. The real vegetables is the Republican Congress with a 10% approval. Dumb ass Republican Congress
  • Mr. T HL 2012/09/28 20:12:15
    Mr. T
    "The real vegetables "is".....LMAO.
  • zbacku 2012/08/04 21:47:06
    EAT! MEAT! EVERY! DAY!
    zbacku

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