The REAL Story in Uganda!
Liberaltarian
2011/10/18 18:38:07
President Obama has decided that the United States is going to try one more time to bring Joseph Kony of the LRA to justice. He is wanted for war crimes. The LRA operates in Central Africa and their goal is to establish a theocracy in Uganda which would be lead by Kony. He believes that he is a special messenger of God and he has been terrorizing African communities for 23 years. The LRA's propaganda claims that they are a Christian group, but their actions are not Christian. He and his troops abduct children and force them to commit unthinkable crimes against their own families. The LRA's crimes include human trafficking, rape, torture, slavery, disfigurement, and mass murder. Even if you are like me, opposed to American intervention in most conflicts, please take a look into these crimes and see for yourself why this man must be brought to justice! Here are four links to a VARIETY of sources that will shed some light on the issue...
(Warning: some of the comments and images are disturbing.)
The Atlantic, Voice of America, Christian Science Monitor, The Daily Beast.
Meanwhile there are some posts floating around on SodaHead today that are disgusting misrepresentations of this humanitarian crisis in Uganda and Central Africa. The author of these posts suggested that Obama's decision to intervene to capture the leader of the LRA was wrong, because the LRA are Christians fighting against large numbers of Muslims. Here is a link to his posting...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-joins-muslims-in-...
His claims are 100% incorrect. It is not a Muslim vs. Christian conflict! The author used as his source, an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's show, which can be found here...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_ug...
The Washington Post had an article that challenged Rush's rantings. Here it is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-worthy-mission-to-...
After challenging the legitimacy of the SodaHead poster's source and his conclusion's, he then posted a revision to his story. Here is a link to that post...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obamas-war-on-christian...
(And of course he blocked me from commenting on it.)
In his revision he suggests that perhaps we are siding with the wrong group, because Uganda's leader is also suspected of committing major atrocities. It is true that Uganda's leader is suspected of crimes as well!The author, though, never recanted or apologized for his gross error and trivialization of the horrible crimes Kony is known to have committed. Whether or not you agree with President Obama, Secretary of State Clinton, and Secretary of State Rice that we have an obligation to stop this, we at least have an obligation to acknowledge the real horrors faced by Africans in this region everyday. We must not help evil men like Kony build their reputation by helping the LRA spread their lies and by painting them as a Christian group fighting "the good fight" against Muslim's. The Ugandan leader that Kony opposes, Museveni, is not even a Muslim. In fact, many of HIS suspected crimes are believed to be against the Muslim minority in that country!
Human rights groups, the international community, and real Christians are steadfastly opposed to Kony's continued freedom. His victims deserve justice!
(Warning: some of the comments and images are disturbing.)
The Atlantic, Voice of America, Christian Science Monitor, The Daily Beast.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/10/vide...
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/LRAs-Joseph-Kony-L...
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2011/1014/LRA-lea...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/galleries/2011/02/28/lo...
Meanwhile there are some posts floating around on SodaHead today that are disgusting misrepresentations of this humanitarian crisis in Uganda and Central Africa. The author of these posts suggested that Obama's decision to intervene to capture the leader of the LRA was wrong, because the LRA are Christians fighting against large numbers of Muslims. Here is a link to his posting...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-joins-muslims-in-...
His claims are 100% incorrect. It is not a Muslim vs. Christian conflict! The author used as his source, an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's show, which can be found here...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_ug...
The Washington Post had an article that challenged Rush's rantings. Here it is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-worthy-mission-to-...
After challenging the legitimacy of the SodaHead poster's source and his conclusion's, he then posted a revision to his story. Here is a link to that post...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obamas-war-on-christian...
(And of course he blocked me from commenting on it.)
In his revision he suggests that perhaps we are siding with the wrong group, because Uganda's leader is also suspected of committing major atrocities. It is true that Uganda's leader is suspected of crimes as well!The author, though, never recanted or apologized for his gross error and trivialization of the horrible crimes Kony is known to have committed. Whether or not you agree with President Obama, Secretary of State Clinton, and Secretary of State Rice that we have an obligation to stop this, we at least have an obligation to acknowledge the real horrors faced by Africans in this region everyday. We must not help evil men like Kony build their reputation by helping the LRA spread their lies and by painting them as a Christian group fighting "the good fight" against Muslim's. The Ugandan leader that Kony opposes, Museveni, is not even a Muslim. In fact, many of HIS suspected crimes are believed to be against the Muslim minority in that country!
Human rights groups, the international community, and real Christians are steadfastly opposed to Kony's continued freedom. His victims deserve justice!
I feel shame for my fellow man, and if there is any god ( which i doubt), where in the hell is he now?
Afghanistan- Full scale invasion to eliminate Al Qaeda and bring to justice those responsible for the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
My issue: It failed, we are still there, and we can't afford it.
Iraq- Full scale invasion to eliminate Saddam's non-exsistent WMD program, which was then spun into an issue of human rights and an opportunity to liberate the Iraqis.
My issue: We were lied to about the threat of WMD's, we are still there, and we cant afford it.
Uganda- 100 specially trained troops and some supplies to assist a government in ridding the world of a war criminal who has been committing the worst kinds of human rights violations for 23 years.
My issue: This should have been done sooner and other western countries continue to sit idly by while we feel obligated to take action for humanity.
Afghanistan did harbor Al Queda which put them legally in the crosshairs of the U.S. I agree that the U.S. after total distruction of both the Taliban and Al Queda the U.S. should have left. By total distruction I mean each and every member DEAD. If they fled into Pakistan then the Paks would have had two choices fight the terrorists coming across their border or join the terrorist and face the U.S. military and suffer the same fate. The bottom line should have been no quarter given.
The full capabilities of the U.S. war fighting arsenal would have been in full play. Since the middle eastern countries don't abide by the GC then the U.S. can and should riciprocate in kind.
http://arcadiafoundation.org/...
It's all right for Americans to fight a battle in some African hell hole where we have NO national interests whatsoever!!!
BUT...
It's immoral (not to mention evil and criminal) to depose Saddam in a region that we are FORCED to depend on for a goodly portion of our oil supplies. Because of course this guy in Uganda is SO much worse than Saddam. Right?
LOL! You lefties... Just wondering, how'd you feel about Libya?
So you support sending troops to Uganda where we have NO national interests whatsoever. Gotcha. Your opposition to the Iraq War is now duly noted as a partisan hack position. Wow! You sure are prone to opening your pie hole and inserting your foot.
What heartless man you are, we choose to go into Iraq for no other reason than greed, why not choose to help out Uganada for no other reason besides its the right thing to do. What greedy a-hole you are, oh i am still waiting on you.
As for prolife? Why do people like yourself not apply that same reasoning to babies instead of despots and criminals.
Abortion is a valid point when discussing RTL and pro baby killing.
As for what a murderous woman wants to do with her own body I really don't care. But when things go south as a result of her actions I don't want my money used to save her life. Let her experiance the God you and she doesn't believe in.
Here is a hint stop using religion as a crutch, you will be better off. speaking of god, which god are you referring to the Christian god or teh Pagan god Thor?
Why do American Right-Wingers support criminals, rapists and murderers in Uganda?
This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person
((God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there.
He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).
” (Joshua 6).God orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses
In Judges 21,God orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married.When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!
In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.
The God of the Bible also allows slaver...
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This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person
((God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there.
He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).
” (Joshua 6).God orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses
In Judges 21,God orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married.When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!
In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11),
Child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).
Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more like myself.