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The Paycheck Fairness Act Goes Down In Flames... But Guess Which Democrat Betrayed His Political Party To Do It!

chaoskitty123 2012/06/10 02:46:52
Good ol' Harry Reid screwing the Democrats again and again and again
Lol, who needs enemies with this guy on their side
So I'm an idiot for jumping the gun yet again blaming Republicans for something our own Democrat leaders did to us
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As many of you have by now seen, the political left is going apesh*t because Republicans voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act to the person.

But guess what, there was one Democrat who crossed the lines to vote against the act with them... none other than Senate Majority Leader, and head Democrat, Harry Reid!

While the left is out there attacking the Republicans, you will note that they purposely do not mention this and I'll let you know the significance.

As head of the Senate Democrats, it is Harry Reids job to make deals with Republicans to win the few votes needed to pass this legislation. Instead, the idiot once again stabs the Democrats in the back and for all of the lefts crowing and hate... the one man whose job it was to at least TRY to win a few Republican votes by any means possible is the one Democrat who voted with them to kill this act.

I often confront the left with how they are self destructive, how their hate for Republicans actually unites them against Democrats and how their own political party is left right and center so that attacking the right and Conservatives is attacking and splitting their own political party against itself... and against Obama.

Obama hasn't been caving to Republicans over the past four years... he's been caving to the rightwing Democrats trying to pull his political party back together as he needs them united to succeed... and these idiots on the left cannot understand what they are doing with their mindless, dimwitted attacks because their hate and anger gets the better of them.

But once again, Republicans didn't do this to the left... Harry Reid, the man who was supposed to be negotiating with and trying to gain Republican votes is the one who screwed them over.

Here's a message from Harry Reid maybe you guys on the left can better understand as it's the message he once again sent in your direction...

Harry Reid

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  • DJPanicDC 2012/06/10 12:18:02
    Lol, who needs enemies with this guy on their side
    DJPanicDC
    However the left is not the problem its the corporate owned Democrats and Republicans
    Say what you will about which ever one you hate
    But I can count on Bernie Sanders vote in the same way I know conservatives can count on Ron Paul, no what lobbyist, or donor will sway it

    So as I see this the patriarchs and capitalist did this to women and voters most likely Harry Reid has his 30 pieces of silver and what women make just does not matter
    To me the only diference in the parties is republicans are a bit more honest about being evil,
  • David Lindner 2012/06/10 06:42:58
    Good ol' Harry Reid screwing the Democrats again and again and again
    David Lindner
    is his seat up for grabs this time around?
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/06/10 04:47:03
    Lol, who needs enemies with this guy on their side
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    Good going.
  • Schläue~© 2012/06/10 03:27:18 (edited)
    Lol, who needs enemies with this guy on their side
    Schläue~©
    +1
    Not at all what it seems and was planned in advance.

    Harry Reid pulled a procedural trick which allows him to bring the bill up again sometime in the future, This isn't the first time he's done this.

    It's all a staged dog & Pony show anyway to keep the faux war on women alive in the news.Reid knew he didn't have the votes for passage yet wasted everyone's time just the same.
    This is the same bill that was defeated in 2010 because it's not the correct bill to fix the problem.

    The only Republican to take to the floor to denounce the measure was Senator Dean Heller of Nevada, who has authored his own legislation that is less sweeping.

    “Let me be clear: pay discrimination based on gender is unacceptable,” Mr. Heller said. “Despite the political rhetoric around here, everyone agrees on this fact. The question is, will the Paycheck Fairness Act actually address workplace inequality? And the simple answer is no.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...
  • YouSirName Schläue~© 2012/06/11 23:33:09
    YouSirName
    You are correct that Harry Reid voted this way in order to reintroduce the bill, not because he was opposed to it.

    I disagree that Republicans opposed this because they wanted a better bill to fix the problem.

    From the NYT story you link: the "bill sought to bar companies from retaliating against workers who inquire about pay disparities and open pathways for female employees to sue for punitive damages in cases of paycheck discrimination."

    The GOP complaint was that it would create more litigation. OF COURSE it would - IF in fact there are employers who discriminate! How else can employees get redress if not by suit? What the GOP really didn't like was the punitive damages part, which would put teeth into the law by making it potentially more expensive to discriminate. This hurts their corporate funders, and that is one reason why they opposed it.

    Oh, that, and the fact that the President supported it. Remember, the "most important" goal of the GOP is to defeat Obama, country be screwed.
  • Schläue~© YouSirName 2012/06/11 23:53:15
  • YouSirName Schläue~© 2012/06/12 00:26:30
    YouSirName
    Of course. Never said that there isn't already a vehicle. Just that it is flawed. What the Fair Pay Act added:

    1. Allows victims of wage discrimination based on gender to receive full compensatory and punitive damages, as opposed to only liquidated damages and back pay awards.
    2. Make it easier for parties that have been discriminated against to work together through a class action suit.
    3. Close loopholes in how discrimination is counted by clarifying that a gender differential in pay within a company need not be within the same facility to count as discrimination, and by tightening the rules concerning defense of a gendered pay
    differential that employers claim is not due to sex.
    4. Facilitate detection of pay discrimination by prohibiting punishment of employees who share salary information with coworkers, by requiring employers to submit pay data by race, sex, and national origin to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and by reinstating collection of gender-based data in the Current Employment Statistics Survey.

    Corporations that discriminate currently can get away with it, knowing that it is expensive for employees to sue and that at worst, they will just have to pay back what they should have paid in the first place. The Act attempts to change that balance.
  • Schläue~© YouSirName 2012/06/12 00:44:13
    Schläue~©
    Ummm, those are the 'pro' talking points which fail to address the reasons Heller feels it's the wrong bill.

    Not every piece of legislation is the right fix for a problem as we all found out with 0bozocare.

    I expect many more attempts by the Dems to bring stuff to the floor they KNOW has no chance of passing because after all.... it's ejection season.
  • YouSirName Schläue~© 2012/06/12 01:02:42
    YouSirName
    Will agree that politics plays a large role in this season. Unfortunately, it's not "ejection" season (was that intentional?) since over the last 45 years the re-election rates in the House have been 85-98% and except for the Reagan revolution about as high in the Senate.
  • Schläue~© YouSirName 2012/06/12 02:11:46
    Schläue~©
    "Ejection" was indubitably intentional.

    Might want to run that 45 year statistic by Nancy Pelosi who swore by her croquet mallet that she would not only keep the House but her Speaker-ship as well.

    Must have bee quite a shock for the old bird to see the results of 700 lost state seats, numerous mandate majorities, Governorships, and a combination of 64 Congressional seats.

    The rules changed in the Summer of 2009 and woke up an otherwise apathetic America.

    We brought the shellac in 2010 and are loading up with tar and feathers for 2012.
  • YouSirName Schläue~© 2012/06/14 20:18:11
    YouSirName
    H L Menken said "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." We shall see, but without term limits I'll put my money on the 85% reelection rate.
  • Schläue~© YouSirName 2012/06/14 20:44:16
    Schläue~©
    I'm all for concentrating on that 15%.
    That would mean 5 Senate seats and 70 in the House.
    The state seat pick-ups in 2010 made a huge difference.
    It allowed Governors to make some reforms and headed in the right direction.
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/06/10 03:19:20
    So I'm an idiot for jumping the gun yet again blaming Republicans for somethi...
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    Hmm.. no, I'm wrong. No one jumped the gun. Reid did the right thing. Republicans blocked the Act.

    You people have got to be the sorriest bunch of misinformed nitwits on the internet. The Paycheck Fairness Act required 60 votes to pass. Reid's original vote was YEA. It was clear that the Act would not receive the required votes so in order to use an procedural maneuver that would allow him to reintroduce the bill, Reid changed his vote to NO intentionally.

    Learn how Congress works. You people are clueless.
  • Charu ∞... FAWKES'... 2012/06/10 03:26:55
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    Really? Show proof please and Thank you.
  • FAWKES'... Charu ∞... 2012/06/10 03:51:03 (edited)
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    Proof of what? That you're a nitwit? That's obvious.

    In order to make the Act eligible for reconsideration, "any Senator voting with the prevailing side or who has not voted may, on the same day or on either of the next two days of actual session thereafter, move a reconsideration"

    Reid needed to change his vote to "the prevailing side" in order to take advantage of this rule.

    Christ you're clueless. Its like having a political discussion with an empty walnut shell. This is basic High-School Level Government Class stuff.

    http://www.rules.senate.gov/p...
  • Charu ∞... FAWKES'... 2012/06/10 04:20:26
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    +1
    awwwww......why do you always go straight to name calling? You really should brush up on your people skills and I am sorry that you were never taught manners or is this political correctness...not sure.

    I know what basis High School government stuff is but it does seemed to be a downfall on the left side.

    I was very polite to you and asked you to post your proof and even thank you for it in advance and that makes me a clueless nitwit!?!?!?!
  • FAWKES'... Charu ∞... 2012/06/10 04:35:20
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    Because you drone the same stupidity on every intelligent response.

    Reid SAVED the Act. Witout his vote being changed to NO there would be no one to make motion for reconsideration.

    Stop watching FOX and educate yourself.
  • Charu ∞... FAWKES'... 2012/06/10 05:46:18
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    +1
    See...you are so wrapped up in your hate that you still do not see that it was a respectful, sincere request done a polite manner...so this just proves to me that you are filled nothing but hate and have a mind as closed as a steel trap which is supposedly opposite of what the liberal are suppose to be.

    You are a sad joke my friend.
  • David L... Charu ∞... 2012/06/10 06:42:25
    David Lindner
    hes a european telling us how our own system works. are you really that gullible to believe him?
  • Charu ∞... David L... 2012/06/10 07:16:08
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    +1
    Who is European...Fawkes?
  • David L... Charu ∞... 2012/06/10 15:31:32
    David Lindner
    +1
    yeah. He comes on here trying to convince us his model of social economics is working!
  • Charu ∞... David L... 2012/06/12 00:43:24
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    +1
    I believe he is an American David but yes he has always been for the European style government, apparently he doesn't have access to news..lol
  • David L... Charu ∞... 2012/06/12 00:57:25
    David Lindner
    +1
    it did say he was from italy before.
  • Charu ∞... David L... 2012/06/12 01:01:02
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    +1
    He "says" a lot of things but one time that remains true...his avatar and it is perfect for him...Animal House....lol
  • David L... Charu ∞... 2012/06/12 01:03:42
    David Lindner
    +1
    hes unstable you say?
  • Charu ∞... David L... 2012/06/12 01:10:15
    Charu ∞ijm♥∞
    hehehe
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2012/06/10 03:07:14
    Lol, who needs enemies with this guy on their side
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +1
    Harry Reid never ceases to amaze me. Whats up with him anyway?
  • Al B Thayer 2012/06/10 02:56:21
    Good ol' Harry Reid screwing the Democrats again and again and again
    Al B Thayer
    No votes are good for times like these. We have no money. Maybe Harry sees this and has a change of heart? Naw

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