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Bob™ the Union Ironworker 2009/07/16 11:58:02
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  • bdb 2009/07/25 18:14:39
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    bdb
    +1
    Of course she would go into quitting mode just after she is inaugurated and maybe make it 'til 2014 1/2! LOL!
  • Lady D.J 2009/07/19 19:59:26
    Yes Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    Lady D.J
    +1
    but most people i see have
    palin 2012 2014 12 people

    personally, I would get
    palin 2012 2014 12 people personally
  • jimmy "In God We Trust" 2009/07/19 14:09:40
    Yes Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +1
    IQ Level 0-13 for that one
    The National Governors Association historical database shows 47 governors, not including McGreevey, have resigned in the nation's history, most of the others to take appointed or elected federal positions and a few for health reasons or military service.
  • Bob™ th... jimmy ... 2009/07/19 15:33:39
    Bob™ the Union Ironworker
    +2
    for corrupution of promotion not just cuz they want to "serve the people" lol
  • No More Commies 2009/07/19 06:32:24
    Yes Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    No More Commies
    Actually anyone but Obama or Clinton
  • Casper 2009/07/19 00:02:22
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    Casper
    +3
    The GOP has placed this nation's economy in the toilet and left nothing behind but mistrust. In addition, Ms. Palin has already demonstrated a willingness to abandon a post she swore to protect and uphold. Let's not make another mistake by putting our trust in people that have clearly betrayed that trust.
  • No More... Casper 2009/07/19 06:24:13 (edited)
    No More Commies
    Since no reason for her leaving has been given I'm not too sure I'd write her off. There are alot of restrictions that occur after you say the words 'I'm running for President' she can campaign and recieve more financial support by waiting to announce. I believe she is resting to prepare for the battle ahead. On the otherhand maybe she's just cashing in on what has happened. She can't do that as Govenor.

    Also Google CRA Lawsuit This lawsuit pushed banks into doing ARM loans again and forced them to make loans to unqualified borrowers. Something no one did since the 80's and consider that Bill Clinton deregulated the mortgage industry just weeks before leaving office. He also was the one responsable for our industries moving to China costing us millions of jobs. Of course it was as a favor to his friends at Wal-Mart a payoff for giving Hillary a job while they were in Arkansas. Hillary had alot of phony jobs when they we're there but they brought in the cash!
  • Skurzilla 2009/07/18 22:45:24
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    Skurzilla
    we need someone with a HUGE BACKBONE and NO political experience... and they CANNOT be from a legal background. Military preferred. If we start electing those kind of people that understand America and it's people, we can then install things like term limits for all politicians, corruption clauses, and fine print that would allow people to be fired from their post if the people put them to a no confidence vote- governors, senators, and representatives. Need to start fresh, even people like Palin may not meet the standard America needs for its future prosperity.
  • TheLady 2009/07/18 17:02:24
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    TheLady
    +3
    I have way to respect for all the women in my life and those who have brought us all so far, than to lower my standards and vote for someone like the Alaskan huntress......It just won't ever happen.
  • eauclairewisconsinboy 2009/07/18 13:43:12
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    eauclairewisconsinboy
    +5
    She's already amoving on don ta DC.

    palin 2012 2014 12 shes amoving don ta dc
  • luigi1-... eauclai... 2009/07/18 14:21:22 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +2
    the new redneck white house.
  • eauclai... luigi1-... 2009/07/19 06:54:36
    eauclairewisconsinboy
    +4
    What a kinder, gentler nation that would be.
    I'm surrounded by rednecks and most of them voted for Obama.
    Even us hicks up here in the great white north can't imagine a frickin Palin presidency or vice presidency for that matter :) We wouldn't even want her to milk our cows or drink our beer!

    imagine frickin palin presidency vice presidency milk cows drink beer

    But maybe...

    imagine frickin palin presidency vice presidency milk cows drink beer
  • Lunacat eauclai... 2009/07/18 14:22:02
    Lunacat
    +3
    LOL!!!
  • Samie8908 2009/07/18 12:10:29
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    Samie8908
    +5
    Don't want her anywhere near the White house
  • luigi1-... Samie8908 2009/07/18 14:22:40 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +1

    a white house do over if she wins.
  • Catita luigi1-... 2009/07/19 21:49:56
    Catita
    +1
    nah!!!!! that's the way it looks now...............LMAO
  • luigi1- in god we trust 2009/07/18 10:33:33 (edited)
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +3
    palin can't take the heat. that is why she stepped down. attacks on her will only intensify. she's all done for it.

    nobody will put up with trailor trash rednecks in the white house.
    palin heat stepped attacks intensify shes trailor trash white house
  • pgcsny luigi1-... 2009/07/18 15:12:30
    pgcsny
    +4
    But yet they voted for a Chicago thug... Hmmm I guess you just NEVER know.
  • luigi1-... pgcsny 2009/07/18 15:28:24 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +3
    isn't a chicago thug a couple of steps above a chicago lawyer. chicago thug couple steps chicago lawyer
    oops...sorry, obama is a chicago lawyer.
  • max pgcsny 2009/07/18 19:21:31
    max
    +1
    Palin is more of a thug...stop stereotyping.
  • luigi1-... max 2009/07/18 19:33:28
    luigi1- in god we trust
    i don't discriminate. i equally bash both parties.
  • max luigi1-... 2009/07/18 20:14:06
    max
    While that is a good policy; you'd be hard pressed to find anything really "thug" worthy on OIbama's rap sheet....palin seems to be real good at forgetting to account accurately, getting rid of evidence (permits), etc. etc.
  • pgcsny max 2009/07/18 22:05:24
    pgcsny
    +2
    Youre an idiot. Is that better for you.
  • max pgcsny 2009/07/19 06:53:59
    max
    You're an asshole...it's not quite as harsh as I want to be, but, you're a Palinite...My mother said to be kind to the ignorant.
  • pgcsny max 2009/07/19 11:43:56
    pgcsny
    You are ASSUMING, I am a Palinite.

    I guess your mother said that because you are IGNORANT . And she wanted people to be nice to you...
  • max pgcsny 2009/07/19 19:52:51
    max
    Palinite or not...what you are is obvious.
  • pgcsny max 2009/07/19 20:45:14
    pgcsny
    And what would that be, Someone who doesnt agree with you..

    The problem with people like you is you THINK you know EVERYONE based on a replies of an internet forum.

    ASSUMING is IGNORANT.
  • max pgcsny 2009/07/19 23:35:58 (edited)
    max
    People make assumptions about me all the time...You are on an anti-palin poll, disagreeing...I would guess you are for her...sorry, if you're not.

    "ASSUMING is IGNORANT"...your initial comment that I responded to was an assumption...based on nothing true.
  • Catita max 2009/07/19 21:57:34
    Catita
    +1
    HUH? my girl Sarah a thug?? no, no, how there you!! Sarah is a nice girl from Alaska, where the air has not been contaminated with the fumes from the middle west,,,,,,,specially Chicago.......LOL
  • max Catita 2009/07/19 23:36:23
    max
    She has some pretty shading dealings in Alaska.
  • Catita max 2009/07/19 23:49:02 (edited)
    Catita
    +1
    back your statement with facts and documents.
    thank you.
    but not as shady as your president.
    1.- bought a "mansion" in chicago south, with the help of the guy that now is in jail. and attached to that the empty lot bordering the "mansion". for a miserable sum of 1.500.000. with his senator's salary and his "wify's" salary of 324,000. "how do you like them apples?????????" do you want more shady than that?????
  • max Catita 2009/07/20 00:11:10 (edited)
    max
    Geee...People can't have family money or have saved for years? I'm sure their combined salaries were near half a million...not such a leap to buy that property.

    As Requested about PALIN:

    Top Ten Sarah Palin Scandals

    And now, for those of you who want some vetting of this unknown person who's just been jetted into the national limelight, here are the top ten Sarah Palin scandals (and for a woman who's been in office for less than two years, it's an impressive list):

    Updates:
    November 11th: Sarah Palin "Plows through doors" to attack "bloggers in their parent's basement."

    November 5: This woman is still creating new scandals! McCain aides reveal "Hillbilly-gate" - Palin's family raided Neiman Marcus during the final weeks of the campaign, spending hundreds of thousands in RNC campaign funds. Yep, that was the "reform" McCain wanted to bring to Washington. 'Cause politicians just aren't looting from the public enough.

    Oct 22: NEW scandals emerge.


    The Scandals:

    #10. Iron-Fistgate - Sarah Palin ruled her small town Wasilla with an iron fist. Can we say "female Dick Cheney"? Even conservative commentator David Brooks of the NY Times concedes that Palin does little to reassure voters about their biggest concern about McCain: that he just doesn't have the temperament to be President. An...'""

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    Geee...People can't have family money or have saved for years? I'm sure their combined salaries were near half a million...not such a leap to buy that property.

    As Requested about PALIN:

    Top Ten Sarah Palin Scandals

    And now, for those of you who want some vetting of this unknown person who's just been jetted into the national limelight, here are the top ten Sarah Palin scandals (and for a woman who's been in office for less than two years, it's an impressive list):

    Updates:
    November 11th: Sarah Palin "Plows through doors" to attack "bloggers in their parent's basement."

    November 5: This woman is still creating new scandals! McCain aides reveal "Hillbilly-gate" - Palin's family raided Neiman Marcus during the final weeks of the campaign, spending hundreds of thousands in RNC campaign funds. Yep, that was the "reform" McCain wanted to bring to Washington. 'Cause politicians just aren't looting from the public enough.

    Oct 22: NEW scandals emerge.


    The Scandals:

    #10. Iron-Fistgate - Sarah Palin ruled her small town Wasilla with an iron fist. Can we say "female Dick Cheney"? Even conservative commentator David Brooks of the NY Times concedes that Palin does little to reassure voters about their biggest concern about McCain: that he just doesn't have the temperament to be President. And her speech at the convention reinforces that impression. Oh really, you say? Read today's NY Times article about her intimidation tacticts. Coming in at number ten since painting Palin as the "hero mayor of the small towns" opens up her small town history for scrutiny.

    #9. Kidgate. Palin is staunchly anti-abortion and has a Down Syndrome child to prove it. Certainly making a choice to give birth to and raise such a child is courageous - and will be at least as appealing as Biden's personal backstory - but many women will wonder how she can decide to leave such a child while campaigning for the White House, and at her judgement to get pregnant in her mid-forties, after already having four children, knowing the risk of having a child with such a disease (or was this an example of what happens when right-to-lifers don't use contraception?). Many think that all this, combined with her membership in "Feminists for Life," an anti-abortion group, seems like she's exploiting a baby for ideology. This could turn most women off, although some Clinton aides see this scandal as sexist. Coming in at number nine as it's still getting play in the media, though down a bit given that there are other, more salient political scandals coming out, and Republicans are determined to turn this story into a feel-good plus, while whitewashing her anti-abortion background. (Sept 10: Regarding that: Andrew Sullivan argues that her decision to have Trig is a plus for Palin. Lucia de Vernai in the American Chronical argues that Palin's example of ditching Trig while she campaigns hurts women by being hypocritical about family values. My assessment: if this issue gets spun around baby Trig and the family, Palin will come out like a celebrity mom. If it focuses on Palin's views about abortion and women's roles, she'll be seen as out of the mainstream. But so far the former, not the latter, seems to be winning in the press.)

    #8. Censorgate. She asked her town librarian if the library "could live with censorship of library books.” (Note that factcheck.org disputes that the librarian was fired. Wait...fact-checking factcheck, now it appears she DID fire the librarian, but then re-hired her after an outcry). Still, coming in at eight as it signals most succinctly to voters that she's the darling of the hard right. And this fired/not-fired fracas is just keeping it in the news.

    #7. Mayberrygate: Palin fired the Wasilla police chief because he was trying to clean up drinking and concealed weapons in the town. Coming in at number seven because it's the delicious kind of small-town backdealing story that seems to be where this campaign will be headed.

    #6. Hockeygate. The Hockey rink she built in Wasilla required raising taxes and sinking the town in debt. Can we say "George W. Bush"-style conservatism?

    #5. Bricknergate. Palin's preacher invites a speaker to spew anti-semitic nonsense while she sits in the audience and listens. Also, her own church sounds as crazy as anything dished out by Obama's. Can we say Reverend Wright? Coming in at number five: this one has the potential to turn off crucial Jewish voters in the two key states of Ohio and Florida. If McCain loses either of those states, he's done.

    #4. Bridge-to-Nowheregate. She was for it before she was against it. Coming in at number four since she brought it up again in her speech: this one will receive real press scrutiny. (Hey: and it's starting to, with Obama bringing it up today.)

    #3. Porkgate - Palin lobbied Washington for frivolous funds. All this coming in at number three since it contradicts the whole Republican theme that this is a team of outside "reformers."

    #2. Oilgate. She's vetoed legislation for wind and solar energy and is securely in the pockets of big oil (her husband works for British Petroleum). She's even willing to let polar bears die for oil. Coming in at number two because as Nate Silver points out, "taking on the oil industry" for Sarah Palin means getting them to drill more and cough up more scratch for Alaskans. This is a "put Alaska first" policy not a "put America first" policy. Since she's making Alaskan oil the centerpiece of her campaign, I expect to see a long piece on this in the New Yorker.

    #1. Troopergate. She fired her public safety commissioner because he refused to fire a state trooper who was the ex-husband of her sister and engaged in a bitter custody battle. Can we say "Bush Administration"? Still number one because it's going to produce the biggest bang when reports are released in October.

    Haven't heard about Troopergate? Want more on the deliciously "Northern Exposure Meets Nixon"-esque intricacies of the abuse-of-power scandal rocking sleepy Alaska? Read about it here.

    So - what scandals didn't make the list?

    Whinergate. She called Hillary Clinton a whiner. THIS is the candidate who's supposed to win over disgruntled Clinton supporters? Can we say "Phil Graham"? Falling off the list today since there are other, bigger things for Clinton supporters to dislike about her.

    Junogate. I agree with Obama: family should be out of bounds. I think camp McCain has chastised the media enough...and there are enough other scandals...that this will effectively be put to bed.

    Dairygate - Apparently she mismanaged a failing state-run dairy. This one seems a little bit obscure and hard to fact-check to me. Haven't seen much else about it.

    Affairgate. National Enquirer breaks "story" she had an affair with her husband's business partner. But it's the National Enquirer. Let's wait till ABC picks up the story.

    Cluelessgate. She sounds totally clueless talking about Iraq or foreign policy. After her speech at the convention, people will question this less (and team McCain is hiding her from the press to prep her with answers.)

    Buchanangate. She was a big supporter of Pat Buchanan's 1996 rather hard-right, somewhat anti-semitic run for office. That ought to win over voters in Florida. However, this fact is now being denied by the McCain campaign, so this one will probably go away.

    Superstitiongate. Not only is Palin anti-science, she wants to teach Creationism in schools. (Correction: Factcheck.org says she is "open" to teaching Creationism along side evolution. Well, since Creationism is a religion, not a science, I find the "openness" to obfuscate science with religion pretty appalling. No wonder our country is falling behind.) However, since there are more Americans who would accept Creationism than censorship, Censorgate takes the list.

    Sexual Scandalgate. She appointed a known sexual-harassment offender to office then had to fire him. But this hasn't gotten much pick up so far.

    Secessiongate - Turns out Palin didn't belong to this anti-American organization promoting that Alaska secede from the union, even though her husband did.

    Perdiemgate - Palin charged the state of Alaska for herself, her daughter, and her husband while working at home. I can see the point since she seems to be bilking the taxpayers for the most she can get. But there do seem to be reasonable things she was doing (i.e., attending NCAA basketball tournaments - hey, it's what governors do). As a small business person, I kind of sympathise with taking the per diem. It's not like she's as wealthy as John McCain, or anything. I think this may be a tempest in a teapot.

    Rapetestgate - As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin had the police chief charge women for their own rape kit (up to $1,200). One to keep an eye on: if more comes of this, could move into the Top 10.

    NEW! Gibsongate - in her first interview with Charlie Gibson, Palin sounds a bit out of it, saying we should go to war over Georgia and flubbing the Bush Doctrine question. Not only that, she blatantly lies to his face. But the press is treating her with kid gloves and giving her a pass (some even are trying to spin it as "a badge of honor" to not know anything about foreign policy). Or is this sexism? Is it 'cause she's a woman that she can get away with lying and doesn't need to know about foreign policy? (They wouldn't be saying this about Hillary, would they?)

    Okay, I suppose based on reader comments I need to address Babyswicthgate - the idea that Bristol Palin is the actual mother of Trig, not Sarah Palin. Besides (to me) the "who cares" factor, I just don't see anything on the net that suggests that this is anything other than a rumor. So, I wouldn't call that a scandal (a scandal needs to involve an actual accusation based on fact). I'd call it a "conspiracy theory" (which is an idea someone is pulling something over on people, that gains traction based on circumstantial evidence). I do love conspiracy theories, but this is a page devoted to scandals. If you want more conspiracy theories, see my Top 10 Conspiracies for 2007, 2006, 2005, and 2004.

    Also, regarding the reader's suggestion of Trackgate in comments below - I pretty much place all these in the same category as Junogate: fodder for the tabloids (no doubt, if McCain is elected, we'll have years of such fun), but not salient scandals about Palin herself. As Obama says: let's leave the kids out of this. Remember how Republicans (including McCain) vilified Chelsea Clinton? Obama has more class than McCain. And I pretty much think going there backfires on Democrats. However...if you are a scandal junky and just can't help yourself and want ALL the juicy scandals about the Palin family, The National Enquire sure isn't shy about going there.

    As I've said, the hardest thing about this page is keeping it up to date....

    And hey, a shout-out to my Republican friends who've made their way to this web page. I've got a couple of very special web links just for you: here...and here.

    Original list from August 30th:

    #10. Cluelessgate. She sounds totally clueless talking about Iraq or foreign policy.

    #9. Censorgate. She asked her town librarian if the library "could live with censorship of library books.”

    #8. Bridge-to-Nowheregate. She was for it before she was against it.

    #7. Buchanangate. She was a big supporter of Pat Buchanan's 1996 rather hard-right, somewhat anti-semitic run for office. That ought to win over voters in Florida. (Update: this fact is now being denied by the McCain campaign. Until there's evidence one way or another we should probably remove this from the list in favor of Porkgate at #2 - see below.)

    #6. Whinergate. She called Hillary Clinton a whiner. THIS is the candidate who's supposed to win over disgruntled Clinton supporters? Can we say "Phil Graham"?

    #5. Kidgate. Not only is she staunchly anti-choice, she recently had a Down's Syndrome child. While making a choice to give birth to and raise such a child is certainly courageous - and will be at least as appealing as Biden's personal backstory - many women will wonder how she can decide to leave such a child while campaigning for the White House. And you have to wonder at her judgement to get pregnant in her mid-forties, after already having four children, knowing the risk of having a child with such a disease (or was this an example of what happens when right-to-lifers don't use contraception?) Won't all this, along with her membership in a notorious anti-choice organization called "Feminists for Life," seem like she's exploiting a baby for ideology, and turn most women off?

    #4. Superstitiongate. Not only is Palin anti-science, she wants to teach Creationism in schools.

    #3. Sexual Scandalgate. She appointed a known sexual-harassment offender to office then had to fire him.

    #2. Oilgate. She's vetoed legislation for wind and solar energy and is securely in the pockets of big oil (her husband works for British Petroleum). She's even willing to let polar bears die for oil.

    #1. Troopergate. She fired her public safety commissioner because he refused to fire a state trooper who was the ex-husband of her sister and engaged in a bitter custody battle. Can we say "Bush Administration"?

    Troopergate, you say? Just you wait: Want more on the deliciously "Northern Exposure Meets Nixon"-esque intricacies of the abuse-of-power scandal rocking sleepy Alaska? Read about it here.
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  • Catita max 2009/07/20 00:24:28
    Catita
    Shady deals, I don't see in your comment anything shady, we all know about it, and the media was in charge of disseminate all. tell me something shady real shady that you know for a fact she did.
    not old news known nationally.
    definition of SHADY according to the American Heritage Dictionary:
    #4 Of dubious character or honesty; questionable
  • max Catita 2009/07/20 03:10:02
    max
    Lets see...off the top of my head...getting rid of the building permits int he city of Wassilla before you conspire wtih a contractor to build your house and the new sports facility for the city of Wasilla...sounds shady to me...no way to prove who did the work...although, stupid people do talk.
  • ol_crank_arm 2009/07/18 09:31:03
    No Palin 2012 - 2014 1/2
    ol_crank_arm
    +3
    If Gov. Palin decides to run for the 2012 ticket, she'll probably win in a landslide.

    The Constitutional and economic devastation this Marxist gang of Bolshevicks has been wrecking is so obvious, even 'Punks' and 'Gays' are showing up at Tea Parties.

    When people know that they're being asked to choose between slavery to the State and Freedom ... they always choose Freedom.
  • Bob™ th... ol_cran... 2009/07/18 10:31:45
    Bob™ the Union Ironworker
    +4
    Tea Parties lol lol lol
  • luigi1-... Bob™ th... 2009/07/18 14:25:37 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +1

    who will carry the tea & crumpets all the way up to the top white house floor?
  • karamel luigi1-... 2009/07/18 15:59:08
    karamel
    aww man you're a funny mf'r i cannot stop laughing aww funny mfr laughing
  • Catita karamel 2009/07/19 22:02:49 (edited)
    Catita
    +1
    is that a cow laughing? oh no! its you karamel!!!!!
  • karamel Catita 2009/07/19 22:17:08
    karamel
    i gotta admit that was pretty funny. i cant even think of nothing to say. gotta admit pretty funny
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