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The Kids Are All Libertarian: Are the Two Major Political Parties Disaffecting the Youth Vote?

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Read the article to see how the two major political parties have disaffected the youth. Regardless if you agree with either the Democrats or the Republicans -- or if you agree with a two-party political system to begin with -- the two major political parties in America have a long ways to go in order to attract the youth vote.

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  • chicago 2012/07/12 20:29:19 (edited)
    Yes
    chicago
    +50
    Even slightly intelligent teenagers (let alone 20 somethings) are left uninspired by the Dems/Reps. All you have to do is look at SH and see the 2nd grade mentality demonstrated everyday by both sides. People are actually proud of using words like "libtards", "Dummycrats" and "Republikcant's", "conservaturd". If Obama wins, the R's will continue down the path of trying to denigrate him, so as to put their candidate in power the next time around. If Romney wins, everyone on here will immediately switch sides, Rep's will blame Dems' for anything that remains a problem (as Dem's now blame Bush), Dems' will claim every positive sign as proof of Obama's policies (as Con's do now about Bush).

    It's not so much that I think (intelligent) young people are drawn to the Libertarian party, it's more that they're disgusted, disappointed and uninspired by the "same ole" rhetoric of the Rep's/Dem's and they're looking for something, anything, that offers a different voice, versus the two headed coin option they presently have.

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  • Arizona1950 2012/07/13 17:00:36 (edited)
    Yes
    Arizona1950
    +4
    kids are smarter today in a lot of ways ... they see the idiocy of voting party after what we have seen both sides do to this country especially over the last 3/4 years.
  • MiaBella 2012/07/13 16:58:30
    No
    MiaBella
    youth just need to grow up pick a side and get involved instead of hide behind video games and their parents. america is a two party system and thats not going to change.
  • Ashley ... MiaBella 2012/07/13 17:17:17
    Ashley Mckinney
    Yeah, that's the ticket. Keep playing the rigged game, because you will win eventually...right? The youth need to ditch the two party system, it's the only hope for our future.
  • MiaBella Ashley ... 2012/07/13 17:18:20
    MiaBella
    +1
    You right in some aspects, but for this election, we dont need fence sitters. we're encouraging fence sitting which is ridiculous.
  • imominous MiaBella 2012/07/13 17:45:32
    imominous
    Fence sitters are there because neither party appeals. So sorry to decline your invite to be on your team, but neither party is worthy imo.
  • Tom MiaBella 2012/07/13 17:59:43
    Tom
    America has always been, and probably will always be a two party system. That doesn't mean that we're stuck with these two pathetic parties. The parties have changed several times.

    We don't need fence sitting, we need a third party to come up and crush one of the others out of existence and force major change in the remaining one. It probably won't happen though. The people are the ones that make change occur, not the politicians. Unfortunately the people today aren't on par with the the people that forced change before. People today are sheep. They will follow the money (we don't pay attention to what they say and do, we pay attention to who we see saying what we want to hear most often), and the money will stay with the two major parties of today until the people force change.

    At one point, at least in how I see it, there did appear to be change beginning. 1992 Clinton administration. Whether correct or not, Americans did send a message that some were tired of politics as usual with Perot getting 20% of the total vote. Many more would have voted Perot but, as some people I know actually said, they didn't want their vote to count for nothing so they went with Clinton or Bush... stupid reasoning and it may have been an even stronger message if people had just voted who they wanted. Unfortunately, neither side took the message to heart for very long and the people went back to being sheep.
  • Robert ... Tom 2012/07/19 01:31:47
    Robert B. Winn
    A third party won't do it this time. Register independent.
  • imominous MiaBella 2012/07/13 17:44:23
    imominous
    +1
    Oh really...you don't think a third party might rise that appeals to rational thinkers, young people and the terminally disgusted older voter?

    I'm done with playing the "pick a side" game. I don't have to pick a side. If I'm not with you, it's because you've done nothing to appeal to my sense that you're qualified to lead the nation. And I'm not the only one out there.

    The first new party that shows intelligence and techno savvy is the one that's gonna surprise everyone. It could happen...
  • Izzy 2012/07/13 16:56:28
  • foobar 2012/07/13 16:54:16
    Yes
    foobar
    +3
    I am not in the youth, but I am mad as hell (and wish I didn't have to take it any more). I do not think the american people are undecided on what is right or wrong, but politicians much prefer to 'invent' what the american people care about, or want, to suit their agendas than to actually solve problems. We elect politicians to national government to work together to solve national problems...but all they do is blame each other and pretend that they know what the country needs or what the people need/want. In fact, what individuals want is unimportant - this is not a country of individuals. Apparently the notion of civic responsibility is pretty much dead at all levels of our society.
  • Slayer Tudd 2012/07/13 16:53:41
    Yes
    Slayer Tudd
    +4
    It's become a criminal enterprise in suits, doesn't matter if it's democrat or republican, they both serve the military industrial complex. Left-Right paradigm is the worst sort of organized crime.
  • WilliePierce 2012/07/13 16:53:17
    Yes
    WilliePierce
    +4
    I'd like to see 5 or more people on the final ballot. Why just 2.
  • mexfort... WillieP... 2012/07/13 16:59:05
    mexforthetex
    +3
    Ron Paul is still on, didn't you know? And he sure is still kicking ass
  • WillieP... mexfort... 2012/07/14 14:17:11
    WilliePierce
    Yep I been watching him. but normally we dont have hardly anything other than the 2 main parties.
  • Robert ... WillieP... 2012/07/19 01:35:50
    Robert B. Winn
    Federal Courts and the Supreme Court are the reason for the present two-party exclusion of candidates. They are declaring Democrats and Republicans to be national parties the same way the Fascist Party was a national party in Italy, the Nazi Party was a national party in Germany, and the Communist Party was a national party in the Soviet Union. This is strictly an action of the courts, upholding un-Constitutional election laws as Constitutional and saying that the provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965f do not apply to independent voters.
  • Bob 2012/07/13 16:27:04
    No
    Bob
    +1
    I am not sure the youth know what they want.
  • Cunning... Bob 2012/07/13 16:56:41
    Cunningmungus
    +2
    Free stuff, and things done for them..
  • mexfort... Bob 2012/07/13 16:57:34
    mexforthetex
    +2
    They sure know what they don't want
  • JuliaLoren 2012/07/13 16:26:48
  • flyingseaturtle BN 2012/07/13 16:03:14
    Yes
    flyingseaturtle BN
    +4
    It is not just the young ;-)
  • Greg 2012/07/13 16:01:39
    No
    Greg
    +1
    It doesn't matter, the youth of our great country are hosed anyway...With all of the debt, and terrible policies the Obama administration are putting in place, our youth will have to work 60 hours a week just so our countries economy doesn't implode on itself...And if Obama gets reelected(Heaven forbid) the youth will have to work 75 hours a week...

    The parties won't matter, the damage will have already been done...Sad but true!!!
  • imominous Greg 2012/07/13 17:48:42
    imominous
    Because 8 year of Bush didn't have any impact on the country? Along comes this new guy after years of battering our Constitution and you blame all the problems on him. You may choose to ignore that a lot of the things you blame Obama for came out of the Bush administration. And then the way the GOP stonewalled every single thing Obama tried to do, showing their willingness to trash the country just to make a black man look bad wasn't like, obvious or anything, and nobody noticed, right?
  • Greg imominous 2012/07/13 19:42:59
    Greg
    +1
    If your talking about what "W' did with the wars, The US. was attacked, 3,000 people were murdered, what did you want the President to do...Sit back a twiddle his thumbs...He made the tough choice of defending our Country...Like most wars things didn't go as planned, but he made the tough choice...
    The attack on 911 totally derailed his vision for America, Pres. Bush had a plan, it got derailed...President Bush also warned Congress about the pending economic melt down, Congress didn't listen to him...Give me a break, Bush is 10 times the President than our current President OBlamer...

    You make me sick!!!
  • The NJ ... Greg 2012/07/14 01:33:56
    The NJ Ladybug
    Whoa. Bush knew it wasn't Iraq that "attacked" the US. Everyone knew they were Saudis. But Rove and Cheney were so pissed that Bush #1 refused to go after Hussein, that now they could get his son to slap Iraq around.

    Oh, yeah, and the Texans were pissed that all those oil contract in Iraq weren't won by them, but were going to Russia and France instead.

    And, don't forget: Clinton left some 3 TRILLION in surplus. Within the first year Bush Junior spent it all!! He lowered taxes (for the rich), and then started the war (the longest war this country has EVER been in). And, then de-regulated tons of environmental and safety protections. Hello!
  • Katherine The NJ ... 2012/07/14 02:08:29
    Katherine
    +1
    How was Libya different?

    Clinton didn't leave a surplus.

    09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
    09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
    09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
    09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
    09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
    09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
    09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
    09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
    09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
    09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
    09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86


    42nd President of the United States
    In office
    January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001

    Aside from numerous attempts to regulate Fannie and Freddie, don't worry, Obama's added about 2000 regulations to make the radical left happy.
  • The NJ ... Katherine 2012/07/16 05:16:08
    The NJ Ladybug
    Libya?
  • Greg The NJ ... 2012/07/14 12:23:08
    Greg
    +1
    It is a fact that Hussein wiped-out two to three hundred thousand Curds during his regimen,
    He used weapons of mass destruction to do so...The worlds intelligence all agreed with this...
    Bush created lower taxes on job creators, poor people don't create jobs...Bush also inherited a recession, right after the Millennium-the stock melt down. But do you remember Bush blaming Clinton for the economic downturn, "NO" he dealt with the problem the best he knew how...And what about the Billions Bush sent to Africa to combat Aids and in the process saving hundreds of thousand lives...
    Do some fact checking before you throw all this mis-information around...

    Obama is the very worst President our country has had in modern day history...
  • The NJ ... Greg 2012/07/15 20:56:32
    The NJ Ladybug
    Where did you get this information? "(Hussein) used weapons of mass destruction to do so." What "weapons of mass destruction"?
  • Greg The NJ ... 2012/07/15 22:11:19
    Greg
    +1
    Look it up for yourself...I'm not CNN
  • The NJ ... Greg 2012/07/16 05:14:08
    The NJ Ladybug
    Aha! So you can't even cite one of those phony baloney sites.

    P.S. I knew you weren't CNN. I figured Fox.
  • Robert ... Greg 2012/07/19 01:37:34
    Robert B. Winn
    If American troops are going to be sent to fight in a foreign country for 9 years, war should be declared.
  • Greg Robert ... 2012/07/19 02:35:09
    Greg
    Like Libya, Egypt and soon to be Syria??? And what about the Obama build up in Afghanistan...I admit, Bush wasn't perfect, Obama is making a mess on every level of our Government, It could be years for a real President to unwind the mess Obama has created...

    Do not vote for Obama again, if you do your stupid
  • OneLastWord 2012/07/13 15:54:38
    Yes
    OneLastWord
    +1
    Dogs, dead people get election docs from nonprofit


    In this photo taken Wednesday, July 11, 2012, Brenda Charlston holds a photo...
    OLYMPIA, Wash. — The voter registration form arrived in the mail last month with some key information already filled in: Rosie Charlston's name was complete, as was her Seattle address.
    Problem is, Rosie was a black lab who died in 1998.

    A group called the Voter Participation Center has touted the distribution of some 5 million registration forms in recent weeks, targeting Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as unmarried women, blacks, Latinos and young adults.

    But residents and election administrators around the country also have reported a series of bizarre and questionable mailings addressed to animals, dead people, noncitizens and people already registered to vote.
    Brenda Charlston wasn't the only person to get documents for her pet: A Virginia man said similar documents arrived for his dead dog, Mozart, while a woman in the state got forms for her cat, Scampers.

    "On a serious note, I think it's tampering with our voting system," Charlston said. "They're fishing for votes: That's how I view it."
    Every presidential election cycle brings with it a variety of registration drives targeting people who typically are underrepresented at the po...

























    Dogs, dead people get election docs from nonprofit


    In this photo taken Wednesday, July 11, 2012, Brenda Charlston holds a photo...
    OLYMPIA, Wash. — The voter registration form arrived in the mail last month with some key information already filled in: Rosie Charlston's name was complete, as was her Seattle address.
    Problem is, Rosie was a black lab who died in 1998.

    A group called the Voter Participation Center has touted the distribution of some 5 million registration forms in recent weeks, targeting Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as unmarried women, blacks, Latinos and young adults.

    But residents and election administrators around the country also have reported a series of bizarre and questionable mailings addressed to animals, dead people, noncitizens and people already registered to vote.
    Brenda Charlston wasn't the only person to get documents for her pet: A Virginia man said similar documents arrived for his dead dog, Mozart, while a woman in the state got forms for her cat, Scampers.

    "On a serious note, I think it's tampering with our voting system," Charlston said. "They're fishing for votes: That's how I view it."
    Every presidential election cycle brings with it a variety of registration drives targeting people who typically are underrepresented at the polls, and Republicans have long seized on sloppy or questionable registrations as a sign of potential fraud on the part of Democrats.

    It's an issue that is particularly sensitive this year GOP political leaders have used fears of fraud to successfully push laws across the country that could make voting more difficult by requiring voters to show identification. Democrats have fought the laws, arguing that they can disenfranchise citizens, minorities in particular.

    The group at the root of the questionable mailings — the Voter Participation Center — acknowledges that the databases it uses to contact possible voters are imperfect because they are developed from commercially collected information. The group also says it expects people who receive misdirected mail to simply throw it away.

    Several election officials said they believed the voter registration systems were secure enough to catch people who might improperly submit the misdirected documents.
    But administrators in New Mexico, a potential swing state in the 2012 presidential race, warned that ineligible voters who complete the documents could make it onto the rolls.
    New Mexico is one of two states in which noncitizens can qualify for a driver's license by simply proving residency — not necessarily legal residency — and state elections officials have no way of verifying the legal status of those who file registration documents.
    Ken Ortiz, the chief of staff at the New Mexico secretary of state's office, said some noncitizens have contacted the state asking why they received the forms when they'd previously been told that they could not vote.

    "We fear that some of these individuals who receive this mailing may feel that they are being encouraged to vote by our office or county government," Ortiz said.
    The mailings appear official, arriving in privacy envelopes with the headline "VOTER REGISTRATION DOCUMENTS ENCLOSED." Some information is already completed on the voter registration papers, and recipients also get an envelope to send completed forms to local elections officials.
    The Voter Participation Center works with a vendor that has access to multiple commercial databases that could include people who subscribe to magazines or junk mail using names of their pet, said Page Gardner, the group's president. She said the nonprofit tries its best to target only eligible and unregistered voters but that some other names inevitably get on the final list.

    "Is it a perfect process? No," Gardner said. Ultimately, she said they rely on the integrity of people and the security of the system and notes that the same forms are available to anyone at county offices or on the Internet.
    The Voter Participation Center says it is trying to increase participation among minorities, unmarried women and people under the age of 30, with Gardner saying that those groups have historically been underrepresented in the election process.
    The group says it has helped register 1 million people since 2004 and some 300,000 people in the current election cycle.
    The center conducted one mailing distribution last year and another earlier this year before its biggest mailing, which went out in June. It is planning one more for later this year.

    Voter registration drives of all types can create a small subset of problems. An active voter, for example, may sign up again after encountering a registration drive at an event. Some registration workers at the community activist group ACORN were accused in past years of submitting false forms with names like Mickey Mouse — filings the group said were done by workers to increase their pay.
    What makes the Voter Participation Center's work challenging is that the group is identifying voters based on data, instead of during in-person interactions. The mailings include pre-filled information that creates further confusion and concern, said Katie Blinn, a co-director of elections in Washington state.
    Blinn said it appeared that many of the mailings were going to people who are already registered to vote. They have heard about a "handful" of pet-related forms in the state of the past few weeks and fielded calls from people wondering whether their registration was canceled.
    Julie Anderson, the auditor in Pierce County, Wash., estimates that about two dozen residents have contacted the county about registration forms arriving for dead relatives.
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  • JohnT 2012/07/13 15:50:39
    Yes
    JohnT
    +1
    They are smart enough to be fed up with the parties of stupidity.
  • Tasine 2012/07/13 15:39:35
    Yes
    Tasine
    +6
    Actually I believe the two major parties are disaffecting the entire nation. Their time has expired.
  • dear•LT13☻ 2012/07/13 15:24:24
    Yes
    dear•LT13☻
    +1
    Most assuredly.
  • harley oldman 2012/07/13 15:23:36
    No
    harley oldman
    +2
    NO.....Not ALL. But stupidy is disaffecting a lot of the Youth. They listen to all this liberal crap and if they are too young to pay taxes and old enough to vote, but listen to all the News(lol) Media they (NOT ALL) aren`t qualified to make a sensible decision.
  • harley ... harley ... 2012/07/13 15:26:24
    harley oldman
    Side Note to the above Post: With the way BOTH Parties are and Act WE all are screwed.
  • whateverbabynevermind 2012/07/13 15:22:52
    Yes
    whateverbabynevermind
    +4
    The two fight like little children. If you agree on one small point from the Democrats every Republican will alienate you and insult you. It's hard to respect either, even if you agree with them.
  • Titanium X 2012/07/13 15:03:37
    Yes
    Titanium X
    +2
    I can see why too !

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