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The GOP new plan boosts the military spending, and then cuts social programs. So are the Chicken Hawks turning ploughshares to Swords?

bob 2012/05/07 13:09:35
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The GOP Chicken Hawks are turning ploughshares to Swords
The GOP Chicken Hawks are not turning ploughshares to Swords
The GOP Chicken Hawks Budget is not aimed less at tackling $1 trillion-plus government deficits
The GOP Chicken Hawks desire to turn the “policemen of the world” into “Empire of the United States”.
The GOP Chicken hawks and the ultra-wealthy know how to profit from WAR
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  • CuresCa... bob 2012/05/09 05:14:56
    CuresCancer
    Stop substituting Coast To Coast for a real education.
  • dragonfliez 2012/05/07 17:45:47
    None of the above
    dragonfliez
    +3
    Both the R's & D"s are "chickenhawks!" They need to stop destroying our country financially and turning the world against us with their profiteering warmongering, before we go to war against THEM!!!!! VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • mind-pilot 2012/05/07 17:43:02
    The GOP Chicken Hawks Budget is not aimed less at tackling $1 trillion-plus g...
    mind-pilot
    There is some confusion over this. I understand the GOP is focusing on eliminating many of the bases surrounding Germany and Japan (old WW2 Enemies) to help reduce the Pentagon budget. It's time we create a leaner, meaner military. Smarter. Swifter. More drones. Less men. More technology. Less money for these corrupt politicians to get their hands on. I think it's a great plan to reduce the budget.
  • bob mind-pilot 2012/05/07 17:57:27
    bob
    that's only Ron Paul, not the rest of the GOP
  • mind-pilot bob 2012/05/07 18:53:02
    mind-pilot
    +1
    Oh, my error. I was hoping at least one of us would have a good idea. Ron Paul hasn't dropped out of contention has he?
  • Liberty... mind-pilot 2012/05/07 19:54:11
    Libertys Martyr
    +1
    Nope he's not out of the race, actually he's kicking ass and taking names. He's won about 7 state in the last week or so. Delegate strategy is working baby!
  • bob Liberty... 2012/05/07 20:15:50
    bob
    +1
    go Ron Paul
  • mind-pilot Liberty... 2012/05/08 16:36:23
    mind-pilot
    This is very interesting. Why can't we hear more about Paul? It seems Romney has bought up all the other candidates. Will he buy-out Ron Paul?
  • Liberty... mind-pilot 2012/05/08 21:31:34
    Libertys Martyr
    Never.
  • mind-pilot Liberty... 2012/05/09 21:36:39
    mind-pilot
    +1
    If Ron Paul stands strong and doesn't quit the campaign I just might vote for him. After this 10 year+ fiasco in the middle east I'm ready for the military to become leaner and meaner. Drones and all.
  • jon 2012/05/07 17:02:29
    None of the above
    jon
    No just supporting troops more than dead beats and freebee hunters. like you maybe.
  • Cordingly jon 2012/05/07 17:36:58
    Cordingly
    Right, because our troops are getting so well paid.
  • Centris... Cordingly 2012/05/07 18:39:45
    Centrist_Bill
    Dont forget the GREAT MEDICAL CARE.
  • jon Cordingly 2012/05/07 23:48:43
    jon
    INT WTF...OTR kilo
  • Claybern 2012/05/07 17:01:40
    None of the above
    Claybern
    +1
    Enough with the chicken hawk krap allready. Vote the way you want to in November. But vote conservative.
  • bob Claybern 2012/05/07 17:59:13
    bob
    +3
    can you do the conservative chickenhawk dance? conservative chickenhawk dance
  • baboula 2012/05/07 16:44:17
    None of the above
    baboula
    +3
    Trillion dollar deficits are Obama's specialty.... besides think of the jobs

    I realize this is a difficult concept for some, but if there aren't any jobs, there are no benefit programs
  • bob baboula 2012/05/07 16:47:46
    bob
    You have an overdeveloped amygdala and a underdeveloped anterior cingulates; which means fears drives you and you cannot anticipate, make decisions or use the scientific process.
  • baboula bob 2012/05/07 17:10:00 (edited)
    baboula
    +2
    it is actually called reality

     sigh
  • Paul baboula 2012/05/08 03:03:52
    Paul
    Congress spent us into the trillion dollar deficit.
    Automation, cheap labor in China and other places, cost of living for the American dream that created 2 income households instead of one, better tecnology in manufacturing and agriculture produces more with less labor, population .....ect...... these are the reasons there is not enough jobs. A college degree and/or a marketable skill has become more important in our job market, yet there are individuals without oppurtunity and the fact that not everybody is college potential, and used to fill the unskilled jobs that are the ones getting replaced for better production methods.
    The whole matter has no simple solutions, although printing more money inflating the dollar can't be the answer either.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/05/07 16:40:21
    The GOP Chicken Hawks are turning ploughshares to Swords
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    Knew that ages ago!!
  • Cliff 2012/05/07 16:37:18
    None of the above
    Cliff
    +1
    The liberals are taking away America's defense in order to buy votes for Obama.
  • bob Cliff 2012/05/07 16:48:06
    bob
    You have an overdeveloped amygdala and a underdeveloped anterior cingulates; which means fears drives you and you cannot anticipate, make decisions or use the scientific process.
  • Cliff bob 2012/05/07 20:18:16
    Cliff
    Liberal, huh?
  • Dan bob 2012/05/07 20:30:25
    Dan
    You have an overdeveloped crainial skull and a underdeveloped cerebral mass; which means dumbness drives you and you cannot anticipate, make decisions or use the scientific process.
  • ProudProgressive 2012/05/07 16:22:27 (edited)
    The GOP Chicken Hawks are turning ploughshares to Swords
    ProudProgressive
    +7
    Fifty years ago, the last Republican with any honor or patriotism warned the nation of just this sort of tyranny.

    "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
    - Dwight Eisenhower, January 17, 1961


  • baboula ProudPr... 2012/05/07 17:04:02
    baboula
    +2
    DDE warned of 2 threats - one was the MIC and the other was the technological revolution" and its implications for academia. As he said in that same speech:
    "The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present - and is gravely to be regarded."

    He never imagined the media so twisted or he probably would have included them as a 3rd threat
  • ProudPr... baboula 2012/05/07 17:14:45 (edited)
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    I'd be fascinated to hear what Ike would have said about the internet!

    And actually, the full quote is even better.

    "The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society."
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/05/07 16:07:27
    The GOP Chicken hawks and the ultra-wealthy know how to profit from WAR
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +4
    The MIC ran hot under Bush. The economy and the wind-down of the armed conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan mean the MIC needs to find new ways to keep its place -- and the GOP has always been willing to help.

    Business as usual inside the Beltway. Congress continues to prove it doesn't consider itself the employee of the PEOPLE, but rather the employee of lobbyists and the corporations and special interests they serve.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/05/07 16:01:08
    None of the above
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    1STM NO AMERICAN WILL STARVE OR LOOSE THEIR SHELTER ETC. wHAT THE DENICRATS ARE SUFFERING FROM IS THEIR NEED FOR EXCESS. THAT WAY THEY CAN STEAL THE MONEY FROM SOCIAL SECURITY ETC. PEOPL WHO SHOUT CLINTON SAVRD ss WAS AND ARE SO FILLED WITH hIRSE S**T tWIL TAJES A GOOD 50 YEARS TO POUR IT AKK OUT IF THEIR NOIUTHS
  • Centris... jackola... 2012/05/07 18:46:30
    Centrist_Bill
    "1STM, DENICRATS, PEOPL, SAVRD, hIRSE, tWIL, TAJES, AKK, NOIUTHS. Hey we elected an alcoholic, cocaine user why not this guy. I mean he is after all a Brainiac that speaks better English than any NEO-CON. QUACK ALERT IGGY ON BOARD!!
  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/05/07 15:08:34
    None of the above
    RJeffreySavlov
    +2
    It's time that we protect our country and stop making welfare payments to deadbeats who refuse to work at anything other that being baby factories. The welfare system was designed to assist those temporarily until they could get back on their feet not as a profession. If they won't work, they should get nothing. If they can't work because of a bonified disability, we should assist. This would free up a lot of money for legitimate programs and paying down our debt.
  • bob RJeffre... 2012/05/07 16:22:51
    bob
    +1
    yep send the welfare people to war and send our prisoners to war.
  • ETpro 2012/05/07 15:07:06
    The GOP Chicken hawks and the ultra-wealthy know how to profit from WAR
    ETpro
    +3
    Take good care of the military industrial complex, and the fat cats in it will take good care of you. Who cares if it bankrupts the nation due to failure to invest in vital infrastructure. When that happens, the wealthy multinationals can just move on.
  • dragonf... ETpro 2012/05/07 17:52:01
    dragonfliez
    if it were only Republicans profiting,, wouldn't our president have gotten out of the war business by now? yes, he would have. the profit is still there for the dems, it's just less visible.
  • JMCC 2012/05/07 15:04:25
    The GOP Chicken Hawks are turning ploughshares to Swords
    JMCC
    +6
    Isn't the Republican response to any problem to spend American lives so that the Rich can keep or aquire the wealth of others?
  • Lady Wh... JMCC 2012/05/07 16:41:46
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    Seems that way!
  • mac9 2012/05/07 15:03:39
    None of the above
    mac9
    +1
    Social programs another code word for giveaway for the lazy is what is killing this country. Also keeps people lazy without motivation. JOBS......JOBS......JOBS.The Dem's are the chicken hawks preying on the working taxpayers. Those days will come to an end.
  • bob mac9 2012/05/07 16:24:29
  • socokid mac9 2012/05/07 17:47:27
    socokid
    +1
    Suggesting a millionaire worked 37 times harder than the average American... is that even possible? But, meh. Throw in some risk taking, some genius, and good things can happen. Congratulations!

    It always amuses me when wealthy/right-wing individuals believe other people aren't rich simply because they didn't work as hard as they did. Some of the hardest working people I know are also among the poorest. They just had far, far more hoops to jump through during their childhood. Bad school, bad neighborhood, poor parents, low employment rates, etc, etc... Some people are lazy, as some are workaholic madmen. Some are educated, others are not. However, virtually everyone wants to be successful, educated and productive. It's is an inescapable part of the human brain. But, when you make it nearly impossible for one group, virtually forcing them to stay in their class through this reality, while making it increasingly easier for another group for reasons that do not include the individual's will to succeed, it destroys us. The average household (all income earners over 18 in a home) is 49k. Half more, half even less. 49k... I haven't made less than that in individual salary since I was in my early 20's. Our current household income is several times that, and yet find it hard to realiz...







    Suggesting a millionaire worked 37 times harder than the average American... is that even possible? But, meh. Throw in some risk taking, some genius, and good things can happen. Congratulations!

    It always amuses me when wealthy/right-wing individuals believe other people aren't rich simply because they didn't work as hard as they did. Some of the hardest working people I know are also among the poorest. They just had far, far more hoops to jump through during their childhood. Bad school, bad neighborhood, poor parents, low employment rates, etc, etc... Some people are lazy, as some are workaholic madmen. Some are educated, others are not. However, virtually everyone wants to be successful, educated and productive. It's is an inescapable part of the human brain. But, when you make it nearly impossible for one group, virtually forcing them to stay in their class through this reality, while making it increasingly easier for another group for reasons that do not include the individual's will to succeed, it destroys us. The average household (all income earners over 18 in a home) is 49k. Half more, half even less. 49k... I haven't made less than that in individual salary since I was in my early 20's. Our current household income is several times that, and yet find it hard to realize I am not middle class. Strange feeling, really. Like a fish in water not knowing he's wet. If may taxes went up a little to provide health services, more access to higher education, etc.. no problem. I know it helps EVERYone. This entire nation. It most importantly puts more of our most precious resource, human beings, back into the playing field. It provides them the ability to be successful, where it is dwindling today.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Busi...

    Suggesting our nation's wealth needs to be in the hands of fewer people in order to continue business, jobs, etc... also makes little sense. The growing disparity is the problem, not wealthy people or poor people.

    It's strange to witness the divide occurring, the two-tiered society forming. We now simply reward the bank account of your parents/grandparents through accidents in birth. Two kids that are otherwise identical, intelligent, hard working Americans will have enormously different outcomes if born to poor/wealthy families. One is now weeded out far more often, and is the problem. The person born to a poor family has a far more likely chance of becoming one of those "lazy" people desperately trying to find a job while on food stamps and using the emergency room for the flu, and increasingly has nothing to do with a will to want to work and be educated. Class movement is on it's death bead, the American Dream is now a fairy tale, and half this country is actually convinced making it worse fixes things. *sigh* We want to take even more away from them to protect growing disparity. Insanity.

    We are neutering ourselves if we continue to suggest we need to coddle the wealthy and take more away from those with less as a means of motivating the poor people in this country to become rich too. That is ridiculous, barbaric, and unsustainable. Period.
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