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The GOP is Supressing the VOTE........How will this effect your vote ?

Shylee 2012/07/28 13:13:55
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The thought of a Black Man telling white people hows its gona be is forcing the GOP to play dirty.There is Racism written all over this.Rick Perry is screwing his own party.He thinks hes hurting the Democrats.There are more Republicans with limited means than there are Democrats in the state of Texas.Democrats are a minorty here.Now Republicans are asking how do they get the proper ID to vote and some are saying im not voting.Thats gona be a problem for the GOP.I dont think they thought this thing through.

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  • ray 2012/07/28 14:21:42
    Wont effect my vote
    ray
    +18
    Why is the assumption that Socialist / Democratic voters are some how inferior to others in basic rules of society ? That voter ID is somehow harder for them than the rest of Americans .
    The goal of eliminating voter fraud is something all Americans should fully support .

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  • DuncanONeil 2012/08/05 19:41:39
    Wont effect my vote
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    I refuse to let the Demoncrats suppress me. Nor do I countenance their continued and repeated cheating. Of all the cases adjudicated the guilty were 5 to 1 Demoncrat.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/06 14:57:03
    Shylee
    We dont have to cheat to win.I think you have it twisted.But i guess the GOP has to cheat.Actually their getting pretty good at it.Supreme Court stoped the voting in Florida and gave the election to W.How thoughtful of them.Their not supressing my vote their supressing your parties vote.Im out numbered in this state my vote doesnt really count.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/08 04:22:31
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Really!!?? Just look at what happened in Racine WI this last election. Hundreds, if not thousands of "voters" registered without any valid identification. No identification of any kind actually! And all of the suspect "voters" were certified by the county clerk without the validation, required by law, being even attempted!
    If it looks like cheating, smells like cheating, it MUST be cheating. Of all convictions for vote fraud Demoncrat operatives have out numbered GOP operatives by 30%.

    "Supreme Court stoped the voting in Florida and gave the election to W." Are you that young? The voting was long over before the SCOTUS became involved. The Demoncrats had four tries in recounts to overturn the will of the people and they failed every time. Or do you propose allowing recounts until the Demoncrats can manufacture a win? Hey! Answer me this why was the recount in Florida held only in the most Demoncrat of counties?

    The only ones engaged in any kind of vote or election fraud is the Demoncrat party. Manufacturing voters & votes they can control of suppressing those groups that they believe will NEVER vote their way. Demoncrat and an election = cheaters!

    Your vote always counts! Unless you oppose the Demoncrat party.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/08 10:48:22
    Shylee
    lets face it we're out numbered.I think the Hispanic vote is going to turn this election upside down.So all of our arguing isnt matter in the end.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/08 20:41:11
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Conservative are some 40% of the population. Liberals around 20%. Hispanics are not as solid a voting block as AfricanAmericans are.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/09 11:44:40
    Shylee
    Hispanics will come out in force this year make no mistake about it.I think Romneys in a world of hurt and GOP trying to supress the vote just makes them want to vote for Obama that much more.This is why.


  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/10 00:50:09
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Obama has lost some 14% of the people that voted for him the first time.

    There is nary a SHRED of evidence that the GOP wishes or is trying to suppress any votes. Yet there is evidence that the administration is trying to suppress the votes of members of the military. Then there is the rampant evidence of all of the vote & election fraud engaged in by the Demoncrats, most recently in Racine WI (with the collusion of the city clerk).

    The Obama campaign is studiously avoiding any mention of the President's accomplishments during his first term. Wonder why? Perhaps because there are none that can be called "accomplishments" So Obama falls back on his tried & true tactics of seeking to destroy his opponents personally. Thereby hoping that those that WON'T vote for him will stay home. I believe that, that qualifies as voter suppression.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/11 13:20:58 (edited)
    Shylee
    Need i say more.
    gop supressing the vote in 7 states


  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/11 13:44:50
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Yes! You need to say more. This is a priori that anything passed is a restriction. You need to show how there is a restriction that prevents eligible people from registering or casting a ballot. Short of that you have proven nothing.

    To be clear laws requiring an ID to cast a vote are in no way a suppression of votes. When you try to claim otherwise the levelof evidence is going to be quite high.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/14 16:26:19
    Shylee
    Example........OHIO is letting Republican leaning Counties vote any time they want.But Democrat leaning Counties are being restricted from voting the weekend befor the election.Thats when Churches make sure everyone that wants to Vote,Votes.Thats the only way the republicans win.Now tell me their not supressing the vote ?
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/16 23:52:21
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Well this "evidence" is little more than apocryphal. The process of voting is controlled at the local level. Unless & until you can provide some SOUND evidence I will be taking your statements here with a spoonful of salt.

    That is you have proven nothing. Merely found a new way to CLAIM voter suppression.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/17 11:02:21
    Shylee
    With all due respect Duncan.I could say your hair was on fire and you wouldnt believe LOL.

    Have a great day
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/17 17:21:47
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    If we are to accept the liberal mantra that election & vote fraud does not exist, why then must we accept that voter suppression exists? The left is clearly wrong on the first count!
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/17 17:40:20
    Shylee
    Oh pashaw....Let me ask you..Why all the sudden change ID's.We didnt do for that for the Bush's,Reagan or Clinton.But now all the sudden theres voter fraud everywhere... please.Its all over the news but i guess you watch Faux News.Its unfair to minorties everywhere.


  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/17 18:16:55
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    There is nothing sudden about this.
    "The 2002 federal Help America Vote Act requires any voter who registered by mail and who has not previously voted in a federal election to show current and valid photo identification or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter." Looks like a Bush era program here.
    "In 1999, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore (R) attempted to start a pilot program that required voters to show IDs at the polls. His initiative was blocked by Democrats and the NAACP, and was stopped by court order. His administration had spent and mailed $275,000 worth of free voter ID cards to residents in Arlington and Fairfax counties. In the aftermath of the 2000 election, where George W. Bush narrowly won Florida by 537 votes, the American public and lawmakers became more receptive to measures against voter fraud. In 2002, President Bush signed the Help America Vote Act into law, which required all first-time voters in federal elections to show photo or non-photo ID upon either registration or arrival at the polling place.

    In 2004, Arizona passed a law requiring voters to bring a state-issued photo ID to the polling place. Similar proposals were discussed in various othe...



    There is nothing sudden about this.
    "The 2002 federal Help America Vote Act requires any voter who registered by mail and who has not previously voted in a federal election to show current and valid photo identification or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter." Looks like a Bush era program here.
    "In 1999, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore (R) attempted to start a pilot program that required voters to show IDs at the polls. His initiative was blocked by Democrats and the NAACP, and was stopped by court order. His administration had spent and mailed $275,000 worth of free voter ID cards to residents in Arlington and Fairfax counties. In the aftermath of the 2000 election, where George W. Bush narrowly won Florida by 537 votes, the American public and lawmakers became more receptive to measures against voter fraud. In 2002, President Bush signed the Help America Vote Act into law, which required all first-time voters in federal elections to show photo or non-photo ID upon either registration or arrival at the polling place.

    In 2004, Arizona passed a law requiring voters to bring a state-issued photo ID to the polling place. Similar proposals were discussed in various other states and were passed in some cases. In several states a person's citizenship status is noted on their photo ID.

    Indiana passed a law in 2005 requiring a photo ID be shown by all voters before casting ballots. Civil rights groups in Indiana launched a lawsuit, Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, that reached the Supreme Court in 2008. The Court ruled that the law was constitutional, paving the way for expanded laws in other states." Clearly this is, as I said, nothing new.

    It is also very telling that no one has ever been heard complaining about the law passed in Rhode Island. "Rhode Island passed a voter ID law in 2011, the only state with a Democratic-controlled legislature to do so"
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  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/17 20:06:37
    Shylee
    Looks like their all Republicans that started this mess.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/17 21:10:46
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    What mess? The fraud? That is clearly not a Republican mess.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/18 13:12:29
    Shylee
    Like i said your Delusional LOL
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/18 15:21:57
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Sorry but I just have to look at the evidence.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.c...

    http://www.maciverinstitute.c...

    http://www.maciverinstitute.c...

    http://caledonia.patch.com/ar...

    http://www.journaltimes.com/n...

    http://mediatrackers.org/2012...

    http://mediatrackers.org/2012...

    Clearly to any reasonable minded person this is a significant amount of evidence that there is a problem. The last of the above list shows a glaring error in that there is no proof of residence provided.
    Sorry but I just have to look at the evidence.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.c...

    http://www.maciverinstitute.c...

    http://www.maciverinstitute.c...

    http://caledonia.patch.com/ar...

    http://www.journaltimes.com/n...

    http://mediatrackers.org/2012...

    http://mediatrackers.org/2012...

    Clearly to any reasonable minded person this is a significant amount of evidence that there is a problem. The last of the above list shows a glaring error in that there is no proof of residence provided.
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  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/18 15:46:53
    Shylee
    I think you just want to argue with me.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/18 16:04:45
    DuncanONeil
    First I don't think you know what a rave is. Second when it is clear that you do not have, or wish to dismiss, the data available to you in order to support an unwarranted position this kind of discussion is appropriate.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/17 17:46:48
    Shylee
    Voter Fraud Non-Existent But Let's Pass A Bunch of Voter Suppression Laws Just In Case


    An exhaustive new report finds that the "problem" of "voter fraud" - the supposed impetus behind 37 states passing tough voter ID laws that could disenfranchise over 5 million Americans - is "infinitesimal" and "virtually non-existent," with 10 alleged cases surfacing among 146 million voters. The findings confirm another study finding a fraud rate of 0.000002%, or lower than the number of people killed by lightning.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/17 18:32:36
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Election & voter fraud is not nonexistent! The most recent spate of evidence occurred in Racine WI. Where people walked in and registered to vote using a store coupon mailed out to "Occupant". This is clearly illegal, yet was allowed, for at least hundreds of voters. Moreover the Racine City Clerk failed to follow the law requiring election day registrations to be sequestered & verified by mail. Said Clerk merely signed off on the voter rolls the day after the election failing to even try to follow the law.

    " the supposed impetus behind 37 states passing tough voter ID laws that could disenfranchise over 5 million Americans" Just how do you come up with such a ridiculous figure? There are nowhere near that many people that do not have a government issued ID. Hell in my state that number is actually ZERO people without a state issued ID!

    "infinitesimal" and "virtually non-existent," How is it even possible to say such a thing. when there exists no way to match a ballot to any individual voter? All of those fraudulent registrations in Racine can not be matched to any ballot, nor are the obvious errors even being challenged. In fact when a poll watcher attempted to challenge a bogus registration they were told to get lost or threatened with violence of police. Considering ...

    Election & voter fraud is not nonexistent! The most recent spate of evidence occurred in Racine WI. Where people walked in and registered to vote using a store coupon mailed out to "Occupant". This is clearly illegal, yet was allowed, for at least hundreds of voters. Moreover the Racine City Clerk failed to follow the law requiring election day registrations to be sequestered & verified by mail. Said Clerk merely signed off on the voter rolls the day after the election failing to even try to follow the law.

    " the supposed impetus behind 37 states passing tough voter ID laws that could disenfranchise over 5 million Americans" Just how do you come up with such a ridiculous figure? There are nowhere near that many people that do not have a government issued ID. Hell in my state that number is actually ZERO people without a state issued ID!

    "infinitesimal" and "virtually non-existent," How is it even possible to say such a thing. when there exists no way to match a ballot to any individual voter? All of those fraudulent registrations in Racine can not be matched to any ballot, nor are the obvious errors even being challenged. In fact when a poll watcher attempted to challenge a bogus registration they were told to get lost or threatened with violence of police. Considering further that recent votes, including Al Franken's, have swung on as few as TWO VOTES per precinct. At this level even the specious .000002% changes the outcome of an election. Every fraudulent vote DISENFRANCHISES a legitimate voter. Based on prior comments y'all should be up in arms about that.

    Seems to me that the little todo in Racine was a dress rehearsal for November, since Obama can't win fair. 2007 being a possible exception he never has.
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  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/17 20:09:38
    Shylee
    How many cases of Voter Fraud are in the U.S...I googled the question.That was the answer i got.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/17 21:13:14
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Yet this type of fraud is just about the hardest to prove. Since the evidence of the fraud is completely divorced from the actors.
    But evidence exists of multiple & large scale fraud.
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/18 13:11:54
    Shylee
    Your delusional
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/18 15:23:14
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    If I am so delusional it should than be simple for you to PROVE that there is NO voter fraud NOR election fraud.

    So have at it I eagerly await your proof!
  • Shylee DuncanO... 2012/08/18 15:48:03
    Shylee
    Grrrrrrrrrr...........Stop arguing with me.Your not gonna win.
  • DuncanO... Shylee 2012/08/18 16:07:28
    DuncanONeil
    This last statement was not an argument! I was asking you to provide the proof you have, since you are so certain fraud does not occur, that there is no fraud.

    How is that an argument? That is giving you an opportunity to show where I am wrong. Ideally your proof would involve more than one source. I use more than one and I have only addressed the most recent event in a single area.
  • Patti The Yes Fan 2012/08/03 13:21:46
    Wont effect my vote
    Patti  The Yes Fan
    +1
    Im not in Texas and didnt know you were there Shylee? You poor dear. Although Florida has a governor just as bad. I think he is on crack seriously.

    rick scott psycho
  • Shylee Patti ... 2012/08/03 15:29:35
    Shylee
    +1
    Hii Miss Patti ;o)
    Yeah im a Texan.I dont know if i should say it out loud.Oh girl your state is just as bad as mine.
  • Patti ... Shylee 2012/08/04 14:09:58
    Patti  The Yes Fan
    +1
    Yes it is sweety. But thats ok, together we can get those facts out. Rock on Shylee.

    your awesome
  • Shylee Patti ... 2012/08/04 14:44:47
    Shylee
    +1
    Yes ma'am theres strenght in numbers.I love your positive attitude Miss Patti ;o)
  • Patti ... Shylee 2012/08/04 14:53:10
    Patti  The Yes Fan
    +1
    Well Im thinking the sane outnumber the insane. LOL That makes us the majority. WOOT. LOL
  • Shylee Patti ... 2012/08/04 15:02:43
    Shylee
    +1
    There are some crazy ppl in here girlfriend.Its a little scary LOL
  • Patti ... Shylee 2012/08/05 16:25:13
    Patti  The Yes Fan
    +1
    It is really. But then dont forget the mulitple profiles by some, fakes, paid bloggers, etc. We have to consider the source and try again. I had to take one huge break from here. It can get boring with the same old same old rhetoric from some of them. They sound too much alike as if their the same ppl. But then considering those fake profiles......LOL
  • Shylee Patti ... 2012/08/05 18:09:21
    Shylee
    +1
    I had to take a break from here to.It was getting to be to much drama for me.I didnt think their were coming on as the same ppl.That explains alot LOL

    There was another mass shooting today in Wisconsin.What messed world we live in.
  • Patti ... Shylee 2012/08/06 11:25:59
    Patti  The Yes Fan
    I know. It really is disturbing. I was thinking about it. What makes these type ppl tick. I mean what possible pleasure can they get from taking another life form? It got me started when I read about the Trump sons and how they were in Africa on a killing spree. For what? Trophies? I dont want any dead heads hanging on my wall. Thats sick. But its pretty obvious that whoever shot these ppl mistook them for Muslims. First it was the Irish, then Japanese, then blacks, now Muslims. Who will be next on the hate list?
  • Bob S 2012/08/03 01:57:49 (edited)
    Wont effect my vote
    Bob S
    +2
    This sounds like it is straight from the dems play book...Your a racial biogot.
  • Patti ... Bob S 2012/08/03 13:23:07
    Patti  The Yes Fan
    +1
    And you sound fake. Whats a biogot? It it anything like a deceptiCON?

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