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The Feds Can't Catch the Cartels' Cocaine-Filled Submarines: Is the War on Drugs a Waste of Money?

Chris D 2012/09/10 21:00:00
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As drug dealers continue making huge sums of money, the smuggling effort becomes more and more sophisticated. Now, it seems like an endless effort of chasing down drug smugglers. Even at the height of the "Drug War," drugs were endlessly available. Are we just wasting resources trying to stop drug smugglers?

NEWS.YAHOO.COM reports:
With three-quarters of potential cocaine shipments sliding under their noses, United States authorities are having a hard time keeping up with the Latin American drug cartels. Part of the problem, a new report in The New York Times says, is the fact that the famously daring and elusive drug-running submarines aren't just operating in the Pacific Ocean any more. These diesel-powered vessels have taken the Caribbean by storm, and the technology powering them is getting more sophisticated.

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  • krayzrick 2012/09/10 22:06:49
    Yes
    krayzrick
    +13
    It's a farce. It's how the CIA gets it's money. They been fighting this supposed war for how many years? 50? 60? It's BULLCRAP people. Just another way to suck us dry...

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  • Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA 2012/09/12 12:12:54
    Yes
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    The manner in which the war on drugs has been carried out is corrupt and wasteful. Our tax dollars going to fight the activity on the surface level, yet also to fund chronies in the privatized prison business, and 'look the other way' in other instances.
  • mothergoose706 2012/09/12 10:50:05
    Yes
    mothergoose706
    +1
    They dont want to catch all of them becouse if they did then they could'ent explain to the American people how and where all those tax dollars were spent.
  • chaoskitty123 2012/09/12 07:58:53
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    chaoskitty123
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    The war on drugs isn't a waste of money but it is a war of futility because on the one hand, we are fighting against ruthless drug cartels willing to do anything to get their drugs into our country and on the other, we restrict the drug enforcement agencies from fighting fire with fire by creating laws limiting what they can do against an enemy who can do anything they want.

    Let's examine some reality here as most who oppose the war on drugs are under some illusion that drugs should be legalized and will not do much harm if we did it. Yet in the 1960's where drug laws were liberalized, we saw the exact opposite prove true. Music groups like the Beetles who promoted making drugs legal totally reversed themselves when they visited San Francisco and saw young people there lying about in the streets so addicted to drugs that they were literally selling the clothes off their backs for enough money to get a cheap hit... that's why the Beetles turned to guru's and religious cults turning their backs on illegal drugs.

    People forget that it wasn't the political right who reversed victories the counter culture generation gained where drugs were concerned much as they forget it wasn't the political right who led the fight to remove sex education from our schools which the counter cult...



















    The war on drugs isn't a waste of money but it is a war of futility because on the one hand, we are fighting against ruthless drug cartels willing to do anything to get their drugs into our country and on the other, we restrict the drug enforcement agencies from fighting fire with fire by creating laws limiting what they can do against an enemy who can do anything they want.

    Let's examine some reality here as most who oppose the war on drugs are under some illusion that drugs should be legalized and will not do much harm if we did it. Yet in the 1960's where drug laws were liberalized, we saw the exact opposite prove true. Music groups like the Beetles who promoted making drugs legal totally reversed themselves when they visited San Francisco and saw young people there lying about in the streets so addicted to drugs that they were literally selling the clothes off their backs for enough money to get a cheap hit... that's why the Beetles turned to guru's and religious cults turning their backs on illegal drugs.

    People forget that it wasn't the political right who reversed victories the counter culture generation gained where drugs were concerned much as they forget it wasn't the political right who led the fight to remove sex education from our schools which the counter culture got put into our schools in the 1960's... it was the counter culture itself in the 1970's which turned against the drug culture and fought to remove sex ed from schools admitting they had been wrong as we saw a huge elevation in teenage pregnancies which they themselves connected to irresponsible sex ed policies.

    In any society, you will have a sub culture which wants things that are not good for the greater whole. While people within this subculture may be more responsible or even willing to face the consequences of what are considered illegal or wrongful social behaviors, that does not mean the majority are the same way.

    Thus, young adults who support making illegal drugs legal live with the consequences when their younger siblings find it easier to get access to such drugs and become addicted or die as a consequence because they are not mentally mature enough to understand the consequences... and unfortunately, many people who are adults by age are not adults when it comes to mental maturity and responsibility.

    We live in a society where millions of young people are so immature and irresponsible that they must live with their parents until they are themselves in their 40's before their parents either die off or these adult children finally learn enough maturity to stand on their own two feet. This was not true of the 60's generation where even if they were viewed as irresponsible, it was almost unthinkable that young people would live with their parents (live off their parents) into their 40's and even hippies considered these people mentally deficient as they left home to find their way often before 20.

    So you want to end the war on drugs when we live in a society where so many of us are this immature and incapable of making real life decisions where we stand on our own two feet as adults???

    The war on drugs is a failure. I admit this because there's no shame in admitting the truth. But it's not because it's wrong to try stopping illegal drugs from getting into the country, it's that we entrust this war to politicians who have no leadership ability.

    Even among those who support government aid, there is an admission among almost all these supporters that we're spending way too much to help people and there's way too much fraud. But one side wants to do away with aid entirely and that leads the other side to fight to protect what we have even when half of what we spend on aid to help the poor and disabled is lost to fraud and they know it. They are so afraid that if they give an inch their opposition will take a mile that they would rather spend this country into financial ruin hurting all of us than to at least fight against the fraud which we cannot afford and is destroying the very ability of this country to provide for those in need long into the future.

    In the same way, most who oppose the war on drugs are people who see things like marijuana as harmless when all the facts tell us it affects everyone differently. In fact, the most laughable aspect of those who want to make marijuana legal are those who say it doesn't affect them at all in a negative way who try to make us believe it doesn't affect anyone in a negative way rather than support real life resolutions where people who want access to marijuana can have access... but take responsibility for those who cannot smoke it responsibly such as supervised parties and new laws to punish abusers.

    The war on drugs is a failure because our leaders are a failure and those who want currently illegal drugs made legal are equally failing because their views cannot be accepted by most which empowers failed leaders to continue this farce.

    The war on drugs can be won and people who want more access to recreational drugs can get what they want as well.

    But in order to get what each side wants requires intellect, maturity and a willingness to admit you are wrong when you are wrong which it seems none of these people on either side are willing to do.
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  • Purple ... chaoski... 2012/09/12 11:57:49
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Chaos, I mean this in all sincerity and respect...

    When are you going to run for office?
  • Neutron... chaoski... 2012/09/12 23:41:21
    NeutronBomb
    Some good points but if you dont even know how to spell The Beatles im questioning how much about them you actually do know
  • DavidK 2012/09/12 07:29:02
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    DavidK
    Waste of money? So we should just allow the cartels to control the amount of drugs that cross our borders? I don't think so. What we should do is make our possession laws stricter like in MOST Countries that don't have these problems like we do. If harsher laws we enforced, we would limit the sales and drastically reduce the drug trade. Same applies with weed also. Stiffer fines, not prison or jail time.
  • MOMMA THOMAS 2012/09/12 06:20:18
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    MOMMA THOMAS
    ...PERHAPS THE CARTELS HAVE MORE MONEY THAN DEA AND HOMELAND SECURITY?
  • johnnyg MOMMA T... 2012/09/13 17:49:14
    johnnyg
    +1
    The CIA makes lots of money selling drugs.
  • Rebel [SHP] 2012/09/12 04:30:54 (edited)
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    Rebel [SHP]
    Cocaine and bad drugs...yeah they really should still be cracked down on. They'll kill you. The war on marijuana, aka prohibition, now that's a massive waste of money.
  • DavidK Rebel [... 2012/09/12 07:42:48
    DavidK
    Pass the buck! Increase fines for possession of pot! No jail time, just harsher fines!
  • Rebel [... DavidK 2012/09/12 20:25:00
    Rebel [SHP]
    In this economy? Legalize it, tax the hell out of it, constrict DUI laws for it, and let it loose as it belongs. No need for fines that's just a branch off of a failed drug war.
  • DavidK Rebel [... 2012/09/13 02:30:07 (edited)
    DavidK
    So just give in? Never happen. Other Countries have far harsher laws and penalties and little to no drug problem! If nobodies buying it, the cartels won't last long.
  • Rebel [... DavidK 2012/09/13 03:09:28
    Rebel [SHP]
    Other countries have also legalized and taxed and now boast of crime levels lower than many other nations. Sweeden for example. People will always be buying it no matter what barricade you put up, that's why you tax it.
  • DavidK Rebel [... 2012/09/15 05:11:59
    DavidK
    thats giving in. Taxing it won't help our Country.
  • Rebel [... DavidK 2012/09/15 05:35:34
    Rebel [SHP]
    Lets agree to disagree on that
  • Kidasha 2012/09/12 02:35:48
    Yes
    Kidasha
    +1
    let the morons get high
  • Mike 2012/09/12 00:20:35
    Yes
    Mike
    legalize it and the cartels will fall by tomorrow
  • Rotten ... Mike 2012/09/12 02:14:58
    Rotten Apples
    no dont legalize cocaine
  • Mike Rotten ... 2012/09/12 15:17:09
    Mike
    those who are on it will have certain rules that apply to them
  • Rotten ... Mike 2012/09/13 01:00:50
    Rotten Apples
    nahh
  • Mike Rotten ... 2012/09/14 12:50:05 (edited)
    Mike
    seems to work well in Amsterdam
  • DavidK Mike 2012/09/12 07:44:52
  • johnnyg DavidK 2012/09/13 17:51:26
    johnnyg
    It is lost. You can buy liquor. You can buy Prozac and Vicodin.
  • DavidK johnnyg 2012/09/15 05:12:59
    DavidK
    Liquor yes, Vicodin and Prozac by prescription only.
  • Soup Man 2012/09/12 00:20:06
    Yes
    Soup Man
    +1
    disinformation story
  • cheshirewayne 2012/09/12 00:18:21
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    cheshirewayne
    +2
    We can't win the war on drugs since the people running the war on drugs don't want to win it. Between them and the left politicians in South American, who are profiting from the drugs, we have no hope of stopping the flow.
  • bpf 2012/09/12 00:13:17 (edited)
    No
    bpf
    What is a waste is the way the war is being fought....get vicious and take these animals out completely...catch them its a bullet in the head, catch the runners bullet in the head, catch the crooked police and judges a bullet in the head.....they will either get the message or there will be no one left to sell or buy it......that's includes all the gangs, mobs in the United States also they lose their rights when they sell this crap.
  • johnnyg bpf 2012/09/13 17:52:30
    johnnyg
    Kill em All!!!
  • SuperTrooper 2012/09/12 00:03:38
    Yes
    SuperTrooper
    +1
    "With three-quarters of potential cocaine shipments sliding under their noses." Lol noses, and cocaine. :p
  • johnnyg SuperTr... 2012/09/13 17:53:14
    johnnyg
    8 ball under my nose!!
  • TimothyBrianFoley 2012/09/11 23:53:48
    Yes
    TimothyBrianFoley
    This is a war we can't win look at Mexico
  • memebev1 2012/09/11 23:40:17
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    memebev1
    The drugs are even being controlled from inside the federal prisons. Bought, Sold and distributed. Too much money exchanges hands for it to ever end. So very sad...
  • johnnyg memebev1 2012/09/13 17:54:57
    johnnyg
    +1
    CIA and USGovt run drugs. That's why they are in prisons. The guards control what comes and goes in prison.
  • Camille Palmer 2012/09/11 23:34:32
    Yes
    Camille Palmer
    +3
    Because the FBI cant compete with the CIA, In Drug smuggling.
    they Import more drugs than the combined cartel's. and Have an Agreement with them, that I will not get into now.
    but they work together for Mutual befits.
  • Captain-Morgan 2012/09/11 22:27:03
    No
    Captain-Morgan
    But a war on Mexico, would be well worth it.. As long as we don't give it back again...
  • ruthannhausman 2012/09/11 22:21:45
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    ruthannhausman
    +2
    I have got to mull this whole subject over one last time before making a final opinion. It just pisses me off royally because there wouldn't be a problem at all if dumbass people would learn to get high on life and stop with the artificial happy trips. But, that having been said, I go one way for a while, then switch to the other side -- I just don't know what I think about all of this. Waste of money? I don't know. Waste of lives, though, I know that's a fact.

    But these drug cartels and their "soldiers" are one big, fat mass of Evil. Period. No conscience whatsoever. Money, money, money. Well, I hope they can take their money with them when they go because they're going to need to buy lots and lots of ice where they're going.

    So catch me a few months down the road and maybe I can express an opinion. Right now I just hate illegal drugs and people who use/abuse them. So many people get hurt, not just the addicts. But I still have to do a little bit more research before I can make a final judgment.
  • Resp 2012/09/11 21:58:19
    Yes
    Resp
    +2
    The narco-industry is the number one industry in the world. I don't think they really want to stop the flow of money.
  • Burnjuan 2012/09/11 21:57:21
    Yes
    Burnjuan
    +1
    It more of a war on Americans and their freedoms.
  • Cuthbert Allsgood 2012/09/11 21:41:35
    Yes
    Cuthbert Allsgood
    +4
    Legalize, regulate and tax our own drugs. You've now eliminated the black market, and created (state based) tax revenue. Base our productions in the US and you've created jobs as well.

    Use some of the money from taxes to support rehab and education programs for severe addiction if you really want to, but I'd just let 'em kill themselves myself.
  • \V/ 2012/09/11 21:34:54

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