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The Economic Case For Same Sex Marriage. Agree?

Jimbo 2012/05/16 12:29:41
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The national discussion about same-
sex marriage is heating up. Just last week, North Carolina voted
to prohibit the practice, and, for the first time, President
Barack Obama clearly came out in favor of it.


The debate, which has focused on our evolving views on
sexuality, also mirrors a deeper generational shift in how we
view and experience marriage.

Naturally, couples who have bought into the traditional
notion of marriage -- with women taking care of the home and men
financially supporting them -- find the concept of same-sex
marriage foreign. Same-sex relationships are less likely to
involve traditional roles and separate spheres, as evidenced by
the fact that the partners are more likely to both work outside
the home.

One might have expected marriage to disappear as its
traditional benefits faded. Instead, it has evolved.

Modern marriage offers different benefits. Today, we search
for a soul mate rather than a good homemaker or provider. We are
more likely to regard marriage as a forum for shared experiences
and passions.

For heterosexuals who have embraced the modern notion of
marriage, the idea of same-sex marriage seems natural. These
couples aren’t any different from them. They love and support
each other, raise kids together and are committed to each other.
They share values, desires and interests. Not allowing them to
marry is as arbitrary as not allowing couples of different
races, ethnicities or religions to marry.


It is no coincidence that many of the opponents of same-sex
marriage are also opponents of the ongoing shift to marriages of
equality. Theirs is a futile battle. The reach of markets will
keep expanding, allowing individuals and families to reap
greater returns by selling their specialized skills and services
outside the home. Technological change will further undermine
the benefits of specialization within the family. Improvements
in women’s education
will continue to raise the opportunity cost
of staying at home.


The implication is that ultimately, traditional marriages
are doomed. And indeed, countries in which gender and social
norms have been the slowest to evolve have seen the biggest
declines in fertility and marriage.


The best way to let marriage thrive in the 21st century is
to embrace the new model of equality and to welcome all couples,
regardless of sexual orientation.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-14/the-economic-case-fo...

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  • wildbill 2012/05/22 03:48:50
    I agree.
    wildbill
    But I think it is a case of human rights.
  • sjalan 2012/05/16 23:19:02
    I agree.
    sjalan
    It is very interesting that in Massecheuttes The wedding business nearly doubled in the first six months after ssm became legal. It than tappered off to about a 6% increase over the previous norm. Interestingly too, is that Divorice has Dropped by over 12% since ssm was approved. I wonder?
  • La 2012/05/16 22:59:45
    I agree.
    La
    Nice post.
  • The Elitist Libtard SodaJerk 2012/05/16 22:25:32
    I agree.
    The Elitist Libtard SodaJerk
    +1
    I see it more as an equal rights issue. However, what I know about weddings from working at a catering hall is weddings cost a pretty penny. The more people that get married the more money the Catering, Decorating, etc. make. it's simple math.
  • scbluesman13 2012/05/16 21:08:13
    I agree.
    scbluesman13
    +1
    Although I think this is more of a cultural case for same sex marriage than an economical one.
  • ehrhornp 2012/05/16 17:07:35
    I agree.
    ehrhornp
    +1
    Makes a bit of sense. Always wondered why the youngins are more apt to support gay marriage and this gives a logical explanation. I am in my sixties and support gay marriage. But living in Hawaii, I have been exposed to both spouses working for a very long time. Doubt this is the entire answer but is part of it.
  • mich52 2012/05/16 13:04:30
    I agree.
    mich52
    +1
    Good article.. Once again Cons. want to preserve the status quo (Civil Rights) while ignoring that America and ourselves are constantly evolving/changing..
  • ken 2012/05/16 12:55:46
    I agree.
    ken
    +2
    Anyone that wants to make that serious a commitment should be able to, regardless of the sex of their partner. The idea that somehow it changes the meaning of marriage is ridiculous. When I got married, the definition of marriage said nothing about it being between a man and a woman. Only since we started to think about gays marrying did the definition change to include those words. Fear and hatred should have nothing to do with the rights of two people that love each other. It's time for our civilized society to put this tired argument to rest.
  • Keeping It Real 2012/05/16 12:54:37
    Another opinon.
    Keeping It Real
    I'm just not sure.
  • Ken 2012/05/16 12:50:52
    Another opinon.
    Ken
    +2
    I think you are overlooking the implications of human population. When the human population was small, procreation was critical to the survival of the species. When the human population is large, procreation is a threat to the population. When you remove the ability to conceive children from the marriage equation, you get a different result.

    As you mention, however, there are many who are unwilling or unable to see the changing role of the family. Toffler, in Future Shock, suggested we need a certain portion of the population holding to traditional values and life styles to create islands of the past retaining knowledge and skills necessary to thrive in these oasis. The example he used was the Amish community. Isn't it interesting that the Southern Baptists have chosen to take the same route as the Amish just around a different set of issues. ... Perhaps NC will become an enclave to the past.

    But I would not be locating my research centers in NC given this trajectory. This may be a bit hard the the Research Triangle Park area.
  • Jimbo Ken 2012/05/16 13:30:05
    Jimbo
    +1
    The Amish asks kids at 16 whether they want to remain in that lifestyle. Quite different than the forcing of views on others by southern pastors.
  • Ken Jimbo 2012/05/16 14:05:27
    Ken
    You are missing Toffler's point and the discussion. Stop trying to force everyone to follow your values....people will be free to leave NC just like they are free to leave the Amish community.
  • Jimbo Ken 2012/05/16 17:22:42
    Jimbo
    That is the point, forcing your values on others. If gays were the majority and told herterosexuals they could not marry and are free to leave the uproar would deafen us. I don't miss going from an agrarian world to a manufacturing/service world where agrarian interests are a tiny portion of people (16 million here in the USA) opposed to the majority. Your missing people that are free can be Amish, can be gay, having equal treatment under the law.
  • Roger47 Ken 2012/05/16 14:45:36
    Roger47
    +1
    Population implications are no reason for concern. Many gay couples do choose to be parents.
  • Ken Roger47 2012/05/16 17:22:16
    Ken
    Right...its not a concern. Modern artificial insemination and surrogate parenthood reduce and perhaps can eliminate humanity's need for heterosexual procreation. But we do not yet understand all the implications of choosing this path. It may have unintended consequences just as Sparta's sequestering its young males to make them better warriors made it necessary to introduce incentives to get its largely gay male population to marry and have children.

    Don't misunderstand...I am not suggesting that the US gay population resembles the population of ancient Sparta. What I am suggesting is there is wisdom associated with some ancient taboos. It is not always apparent what the wisdom is and so retaining islands of the past protects the species.

    I don't want to live in an island to the past. But if the people of NC choose to do so, I believe there is value to the rest of us in letting them do so ... provided those who wish to leave are free to do so. It is likely that maintaining this island of the past will require them to give up additional conveniences; e.g., they are likely to outlaw abortion as well as gay marriage, I suspect other forms of birth control will go with abortion. As they continue down this path, it is likely poverty in the state will grow as Universities and research organizations leave the state because it becomes difficult or impossible to attract top talent. As George Bush was so fond of saying; there are consequences.
  • Broban 2012/05/16 12:50:46
    I agree.
    Broban
    +1
    In Loving v. Virginia, the Supreme Court decided that marriage was a civil right. So why are we denying gays their right to marriage.
  • Angela Chambers 2012/05/16 12:45:29
    Another opinon.
    Angela Chambers
    +1
    I'll marry whomever I want to marry. Get over it!!
  • Starman 2012/05/16 12:44:13
    I agree.
    Starman
    Very interesting and insightful argument. I hadn't thought about it in those terms, but I certainly rings true.
  • Jimbo 2012/05/16 12:31:53
    I agree.
    Jimbo
    +2
    Whether the tax code, health insurance, educational grants, or a thousand other benefits remarried heterosexuals get, they are denied a segment of American due to the sexual orientation. Gays deserve equal protection under the law.
  • bob Jimbo 2012/05/16 12:33:08
    bob
    +1
    They already have it and can marry freely like anyone else,
    but to change the definition of marriage is what voters always vote down.
  • Jimbo bob 2012/05/16 12:38:01
    Jimbo
    Call it a civil union, it does not matter to them as long as people get the same benefits. They do not already have it. 30 states have laws banning it. IRS does not let them file married on their return. DOMA is still law of the land.
  • Scream Jimbo 2012/05/16 12:41:19
    Scream
    Not trying to start a full-on argument, but it matters to me. Ever heard of Separate But Equal?
  • Jimbo Scream 2012/05/16 13:20:39
    Jimbo
    Yes and it was voided by the Supreme Court in an education case half a century ago.
  • Scream Jimbo 2012/05/16 13:22:25
    Scream
    But it's basically the same here. A civil union, even with all the same benefits of a marriage, is not a marriage. Separate but equal. It's not good enough.
  • Jimbo Scream 2012/05/16 17:24:46
    Jimbo
    Equal is filing married on taxes, having step parents cover the child under health insurance, thousands of other examples. It is not true in our country today with 30 states banning gay unions.
  • Scream Jimbo 2012/05/16 21:20:43
    Scream
    Exactly. But you said gay people would be happy with civil unions. I'm just saying most of us wouldn't be.
  • bob Jimbo 2012/05/16 12:44:07
    bob
    +1
    What are you talking about, they are free to marry any one of the opposite sex just like the rest of us, stop playing the deception game
    The majority of Americans DO NOT want the definition changed to suit a minority.
    Marriage, one man, one women
  • Broban bob 2012/05/16 12:51:45
    Broban
    So your saying Straight marriage is sort of a "Tradition" in the U.S?
  • bob Broban 2012/05/16 13:18:20
    bob
    +1
    When people are given a chance to vote on this, overwhelmingly they oppose the definition to be changed,
    nor should it be, If you want to have civil ceremonies, go for it, but its not marriage. If you want to contract yourself as a partner, go for it, but marriage for thousands of years has been one man, joining with one women,
  • Broban bob 2012/05/16 16:32:37
    Broban
    Slavery, woman inequality, and racial discrimination has been around for thousands of years. We decided to change our stance on that didn't we? There will always be opposition to change, even if it is for the better.
  • bob Broban 2012/05/16 17:26:42
    bob
    perverse morality doesn't equate to equality
    marriage, one man one women, everyone has that right now,
  • Broban bob 2012/05/16 22:34:40
    Broban
    Who decided that? Religion?
  • bob Broban 2012/05/17 20:04:15
    bob
    so you want to remove it altogether and have each man or women decide their own morality?
  • Broban bob 2012/05/18 01:41:37
    Broban
    I'm not saying that.

    Please answer this.
    Why do you think that it should always be a man and a woman?
  • bob Broban 2012/05/18 15:08:13
    bob
    maybe because with every poll taken, majority believes it shouldn't be changed,
    even as left as California is, they voted to not change it and it took a activist judge to stop them,
    people don't want this, and yes, societies world wide recognize it as valid
    marriage, one man, one women
  • Broban bob 2012/05/23 12:47:40
    Broban
    Actually, for people 35 and up 65% said no to gay marriage, while for people 18-34 80% said yes to it.
  • bob Broban 2012/05/23 15:02:37
    bob
    actually when put to a vote, it always gets voted down , NC is the latest, even in extremest left wing california it was voted down and needed an activist judge to force it, but the voters clearly didn't want it
    Why do you insist on forcing this on american's that dont want it?
    Since 1998, voters in thirty states have approved constitutional amendments defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman, voting to protect marriage in every state where the issue has been put on the ballot, often by large margins.
  • ken bob 2012/05/16 13:01:31
    ken
    Sure they're free to marry, but most states and this country as a whole do not recognize that marriage. Your argument doesn't address that issue.
  • bob ken 2012/05/16 13:15:23
    bob
    +1
    no different then you cant marry a tree and expect benefits for the tree,
  • ken bob 2012/05/16 13:17:25
    ken
    LOLOLOL! Really? Are you serious? Please say you're kidding, man.

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