Mankind, the Great Experiment by the Creator of all things, heaven and earth, is probably growing tired of our antics. Wars, rumors of war and general dismal behaviors will be duly recognized and dealt with in His own time.
We are approaching that time IMHO rapidly.
The Constitution vs God! Or is that the Constitution vs Progressives, Socialists, Statests, Marxists, Liberals, and Atheists.
Patriot Unit
2012/02/09 03:08:42
Using the word God does not denote that our government is creating or recognizing one religion over another. The word denotes that our founders used it to say that over all our country was a religious in general. That our founders were glad to have had the help of a higher power in forming this country. As stated in our Declaration of Independence.. And where in the Constitution say that the word God is unconstitutional? Let alone the word Miracle?
I guess, that all our money needs to be recalled, so that they can remove the word God. What shall we put in its place in, "In God We Trust" I know we have already taken the reference for our pledge. Maybe we should tear up the Declaration of Independence and rewrite it to remove the implication t presented by the words "Laws of Nature and Nature's God entitle them" or "That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator (God, or whatever higher power may be involved) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,--- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,---That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and institute new government" I could type the whole thing out, but you should have now gotten the idea that our founding documents are the grounding foundation of this country, and that the writing of such, that our founders used words that expressed their meaning.
Our Declaration gave us the reason for our actions. The Constitution gave us the Rules of Law that or three branches of the Federal Government, would operate by and under. It is specific in those rules. However, all three branches have twisted, misused, interpreted, or changed it to reflect their personal beliefs, as to what it says they can do. In order for them to benefit by it, not the people of the United States.
Example, the Preamble of the Constitution, by many think that it is Law. It is not, it is an introduction, as to what our founding fathers, hoped the Articles in the Constitution would do. But you progressives, leftists, socialist, communists all think it is Law.
And our first ten amendments are giving us, the people, not the government our Rights. Not choices, but Rights. And the Tenth give the States the Right to do anything that is not in the body specifically giving power to the Federal government, as listed in the Enumerated powers. The Constitution does not give the Federal government the omnibus powers that it thinks it has, or that it tries to get the Supreme Court to give them. Nor does it give the Supreme Court the power of interpretation. No where, no way, and no how. It is even specific as to what the President can do. But none of them follow the Rule of Law, they usurp it at every chance they get.
I guess, that all our money needs to be recalled, so that they can remove the word God. What shall we put in its place in, "In God We Trust" I know we have already taken the reference for our pledge. Maybe we should tear up the Declaration of Independence and rewrite it to remove the implication t presented by the words "Laws of Nature and Nature's God entitle them" or "That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator (God, or whatever higher power may be involved) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,--- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,---That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and institute new government" I could type the whole thing out, but you should have now gotten the idea that our founding documents are the grounding foundation of this country, and that the writing of such, that our founders used words that expressed their meaning.
Our Declaration gave us the reason for our actions. The Constitution gave us the Rules of Law that or three branches of the Federal Government, would operate by and under. It is specific in those rules. However, all three branches have twisted, misused, interpreted, or changed it to reflect their personal beliefs, as to what it says they can do. In order for them to benefit by it, not the people of the United States.
Example, the Preamble of the Constitution, by many think that it is Law. It is not, it is an introduction, as to what our founding fathers, hoped the Articles in the Constitution would do. But you progressives, leftists, socialist, communists all think it is Law.
And our first ten amendments are giving us, the people, not the government our Rights. Not choices, but Rights. And the Tenth give the States the Right to do anything that is not in the body specifically giving power to the Federal government, as listed in the Enumerated powers. The Constitution does not give the Federal government the omnibus powers that it thinks it has, or that it tries to get the Supreme Court to give them. Nor does it give the Supreme Court the power of interpretation. No where, no way, and no how. It is even specific as to what the President can do. But none of them follow the Rule of Law, they usurp it at every chance they get.
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CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/02/09 04:14:43


















We are the government. We are the people.
Good government is NOT a terror to good works. In other words, when a government is run amuck with crime, tyranny and injustice, we are not Biblically obligated to submit anymore. To teach otherwise is to condemn America's founding father's, who if they hadn't revolted, there would be no America today. Think about that.
I'm tired of reading books by Christian leaders, about how believers are supposed to blindly submit to criminal government, when the very existence of "The Land Of The Free" was secured through revolt, resistance, and bloodshed. How hypocritical.
"...Shall your brethren go to war, and shall ye sit here?" —Numbers 32:6
Wake Up America - Jon McNaughton
"Using the word God does not denote that our government is creating or recognizing one religion over another" - Yes, it can very well mean that. Depends.
"I guess, that all our money needs to be recalled, so that they can remove the word God" - I agree - it was only added in the 1950's, so it can easily be removed.
You point out that the preamble is not the law (correct), after seeming to state that the Declaration IS the law, which IT isn't either.
The law is the law - the Constitution itself, and especially the first Amendment . . . Religious Freedom! Yay!.
"Not choices, but Rights" - there's your problem, right there. You are wrong.
Religious Freedom is just what it says - Freedom. It's too bad you think only you and your freinds get that freedom, because you are wrong - EVERYBODY gets Religious Freedom.
Who asked you? What do you want? Why are you here with an unrelated comment?
"What does that have to do with anything I'm discussing with PatriotUnit?
Who asked you? What do you want? Why are you here with an unrelated comment?"
Really, what's wrong with any of that? I'm just asking simple questions.
Boy, SOME people sure are touchy.
I and every other person in this country has the unabridged right to believe in God or not. The use of the word, does not mean or imply it is one signal god. Our 1st Amendment does not recognize any one religion, nor has it ever caused this country to have a state run religion.
You asked who told me the things I have stated. I see them in the things I read. And as an Individual Human Being that has all the God given rights to think, I choose to do that.
And what is the big deal about it being on our money, does those words make it anymore or less worthless? Just how does those words on our money mean we recognize one religion?
Depends are only good as dippers. That is what I was saying. What one group thinks about a words meaning, has nothing to do with why the " In God We Trust"
Maybe you missed this little item, ‘In God We Trust’: House reaffirms national motto — yet again.The motto first appeared on U.S. coins during the C...
I and every other person in this country has the unabridged right to believe in God or not. The use of the word, does not mean or imply it is one signal god. Our 1st Amendment does not recognize any one religion, nor has it ever caused this country to have a state run religion.
You asked who told me the things I have stated. I see them in the things I read. And as an Individual Human Being that has all the God given rights to think, I choose to do that.
And what is the big deal about it being on our money, does those words make it anymore or less worthless? Just how does those words on our money mean we recognize one religion?
Depends are only good as dippers. That is what I was saying. What one group thinks about a words meaning, has nothing to do with why the " In God We Trust"
Maybe you missed this little item, ‘In God We Trust’: House reaffirms national motto — yet again.The motto first appeared on U.S. coins during the Civil War and now is inscribed on all coins and dollar bills. Maybe you might read the article, http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Here is another you might read, not that you would accept the premise I am sure. http://www.allabouthistory.or... The part that says it said
"In God We Trust: The Foundation
American history demonstrates repeatedly that the nation was founded on Christian principles and its founding fathers wished to acknowledge that fact all over Washington D.C. buildings, in official documents, and historical speeches. Less than a hundred years after its Declaration of Independence, In God We Trust was proclaimed on its coins. America is a free nation, and freedom of religion is still guaranteed in the Constitution’s First Amendment"
To me that does not make me Christian, Muslim, Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, or Atheist. Or anything else. I still have that choice to make freely, and without pressure from anybody else, or by my government.
But the government can't promote one religion over another. Why should there be religious sayings on American money? Not all Americans are any one religion - save religious messages for church/synogogue/mosque/home.
And another thing - America was NOT founded on "Christian principles" - it was founded on British law - and SOME British law WAS founded on "Christian principles" - but a lot of it was NOT - a lot of British law is PRE-Christian.
Sorry, I'm a Secular Humanist (I dislike the Atheist label as it's inaccurate) and I served 12 years. I love this nation but I fear a theocratic takeover and a rewrite of history to make this go from the most secular and scientific minded nation to being on par with Syria or Iran.
If that makes me an evil commie pinko liberal in your book. Oh well. I guess loving my nation without loving your god is a crime now.
and also, your / my / all of us, the Constitution protects our choice .
I agree with you in that this country. It could well be taken over my the Islamic radicals. If so many in this country keep allowing the Constitution to be usurped by those in government whom see it as a dirty piece of paper, with chicken scratches across it.
I think she was just trying to point out the history of our country. You being a Patriot, is not dependent upon what you believe or don't believe. I like you being a Secular Humanist, that is a good thing. I could live under that belief. I Think that this country is Secular, but it was still formed in the Christian/Judea faith. Yet our 1st Amendment keeps us from forming a national religion. It clearly states that we have the right to chose, whatever beliefs we wish, no matter what religion that may be if we believe in such, and that we remain secular. I don't feel threatened by the word God, or the use of it by our government.
Neither do I think that the 1st Amendment has anything to do with the Separation or Church and State. It says nothing or the sort, nor does it imply it. Like all other parts of the Constitution, many try to reword it, or expand on the meaning, to force their ideology, or belief in what they want it to mean. To serve their personal agenda.
We are approaching that time IMHO rapidly.
Chill out man, the commies will be too busy dancing and everyone else will be too busy watching.