The Biden Ryan Vice Presidential Debate. Who won?
dublin9
2012/10/12 12:08:50
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The Biden antics was a big strategic loss for Obama. The only thing the Obama/Biden team had going for them was likeability. This is gone now.
Biden began nervously. He was obviously under pressure from Obama to "give it to him." Obama always likes to get others to do his dirty work. But Biden came off as a scornful old man, unwilling to allow his younger opponent the opportunity to speak. He interrupted Ryan some 88 times.
This won't go over well with younger voters. Biden was like a father who greets his visiting son after "dad" returned from a bender in a bar. Biden's actions may go over well among the SEIU Union crowd, raucously tipsy from downing some brewskies during lunch break, but a Vice Presidential Debate was far from the proper venue.
Ryan acted much more Vice Presidential and potentially Presidential. He didn't get rattled in spite of Biden's boorish and unprofessional behavior. So setting aside ideology, I believe that Biden tarnished the "nice guy" image of the Obama/Biden label and it will turn around to bite them.
Biden began nervously. He was obviously under pressure from Obama to "give it to him." Obama always likes to get others to do his dirty work. But Biden came off as a scornful old man, unwilling to allow his younger opponent the opportunity to speak. He interrupted Ryan some 88 times.
This won't go over well with younger voters. Biden was like a father who greets his visiting son after "dad" returned from a bender in a bar. Biden's actions may go over well among the SEIU Union crowd, raucously tipsy from downing some brewskies during lunch break, but a Vice Presidential Debate was far from the proper venue.
Ryan acted much more Vice Presidential and potentially Presidential. He didn't get rattled in spite of Biden's boorish and unprofessional behavior. So setting aside ideology, I believe that Biden tarnished the "nice guy" image of the Obama/Biden label and it will turn around to bite them.



















Arrogance, Rudeness, Totally Unprofessional for a Sitting VP...
Disgusting to say the least...
In my opinion Ryan won.
Even liberal CNN shows Ryan won 48% Ryan, 44% Biden .
NEVER MIND JUST SHUT UP AND VOTE FOR WHO YOU WERE TOLD Comrade douchinsky
Don’t Vote For Evil
Paul Craig Roberts
Oct 13, 2012
Back during the George W. Bush neocon regime, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela in his UN speech summed up George W. Bush for the world. I am quoting Chavez from memory, not verbatim. “Yesterday standing at this same podium was Satan himself, speaking as if he owned the world. You can still smell the sulfur.”
Chavez is one of the American right-wing’s favorite bogyman, because Chavez helps the people instead of bleeding them for the rich, which is Washington’s way. While Washington has driven all but the one percent into the ground, Chavez cut poverty in half, doubled university enrollment, and provided health care and old age pensions to millions of Venezuelans for the first time.
Little wonder he was elected to a third term as president despite the many millions of dollars Washington poured into the election campaign of Chavez’s opponent.
While Washington and the EU preach neoliberalism–the supremacy of capital over labor–South American politicians who reject Washington’s way are being elected and reelected in Venezuela, Ecuador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, and Bolivia.
It was the Ecuadoran government, not Washington, that had the moral integrity to grant political asylum to WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange. The o...
Don’t Vote For Evil
Paul Craig Roberts
Oct 13, 2012
Back during the George W. Bush neocon regime, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela in his UN speech summed up George W. Bush for the world. I am quoting Chavez from memory, not verbatim. “Yesterday standing at this same podium was Satan himself, speaking as if he owned the world. You can still smell the sulfur.”
Chavez is one of the American right-wing’s favorite bogyman, because Chavez helps the people instead of bleeding them for the rich, which is Washington’s way. While Washington has driven all but the one percent into the ground, Chavez cut poverty in half, doubled university enrollment, and provided health care and old age pensions to millions of Venezuelans for the first time.
Little wonder he was elected to a third term as president despite the many millions of dollars Washington poured into the election campaign of Chavez’s opponent.
While Washington and the EU preach neoliberalism–the supremacy of capital over labor–South American politicians who reject Washington’s way are being elected and reelected in Venezuela, Ecuador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, and Bolivia.
It was the Ecuadoran government, not Washington, that had the moral integrity to grant political asylum to WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange. The only time Washington grants asylum is when it can be used to embarrass an opponent.
In contrast to the leadership that is emerging in South America as more governments there reject the traditional hegemony of Washington, the US political elite, whether Republican or Democrat, are aligned with the rich against the American people.
The Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, has promised to cut taxes on the rich, taxes which are already rock bottom, to block any regulation of the gangsters in the financial arena, and to privatize Social Security and Medicare.
Privatizing Social Security and Medicare means to divert the people’s tax dollars to the profits of private corporations. In Republican hands, privatization means only one thing: to cut the people’s benefits and to use the people’s tax dollars to increase the profits in the private sector. Romney’s policy is just another policy that sacrifices the people to the one percent.
Unfortunately, the Democrats, if a lessor evil, are still an evil. There is no reason to vote for the reelection of a president who codified into law the Bush regime’s destruction of the US Constitution, who went one step further and asserted the power to murder US citizens without due process of law, and who has done nothing to stop the exploitation of the American people by the one percent.
As Gerald Celente says in the Autumn Issue of the Trends Journal, when confronted with the choice between two evils, you don’t vote for the lessor evil. You boycott the election and do not vote. “Lessor or greater, evil is evil.”
If Americans had any sense, no one would vote in the November election. Whoever wins the November election, it will be a defeat for the American people.
An Obama or Romney win stands in stark contract with Chavez’s win. Here is how Lula da Silva, the popular former president of Brazil summed it up: “Chavez’s victory is a victory for all the peoples of Latin America. It is another blow against imperialism.” Washington, making full use of the almighty dollar, was unable to buy the Venezuelan election.
How will a Romney or Obama win be summed up? The answer will be in terms of which candidate is best for Israel’s interest; which is best for Wall Street’s interest, which is best for agribusiness; which is most likely to attack Iran; which is most likely to subject economic and war protesters to indefinite detention as domestic extremists.
The only people who will benefit from the election of either Romney or Obama are those associated with the private oligarchies that rule America.
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is the father of Reaganomics and the former head of policy at the Department of Treasury. He is a columnist and was previously the editor of the Wall Street Journal. His latest book, “How the Economy Was Lost: The War of the Worlds,” details why America is disintegrating.
But I'm really getting fed up with the way you communicate with me. you hurl insults, call me a taitor to America and offer up a vocabulary like some unbalanced Marxist fanatic on the sidewalk, upset because I respectfully decline to take a flyer. I hold you in hire esteem than that illiterate LibFraud person and hope that some day you don't catch me in a less tolerant mood where I lose patience.
I'm pretty sure that the way things are going, Romney stands a good chance of winning the popular vote. What I'm worried about is the Electoral College vote.
But allow me to give you another reason why you are throwing your vote away by not voting for Romney. During a Presidential campaign, people tend to vote a straight up and down ticket. If Romney wins, there's a good chance the Senate will go Republican and we can dump that obamination called Obamacare.
Too bad they don't come on an Italian grinder.