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The Ancient Greek History of Global Climate Change

May 08, 2009

Ancient Greece's 'global warming'

By Ben-Peter Terpstra

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In Heaven + Earth (Global Warming: The Missing Science), Ian Plimer, Professor of Mining Geology at The University of Adelaide, Australia, asks us to embrace big-picture science views; for to recognize our limits is a sign of maturity. "Climate science lacks scientific discipline," says the pro-amalgamation Professor, and in order to see more clearly we need to adopt an interdisciplinary approach. This requires humbleness.

In Chapter 2: History, Plimer travels back in time, thousands of years, in fact, to debunk Gore's catastrophic global warming myths. I particularly like his research on the ancient Greeks. For Plato (427-347 BC) advanced the position that global warming occurs at regular intervals in Timaeus, and his famous pupil Aristotle (382-322 BC), referred to climate changes in Meteorologica.

Plimer's research points are fascinating:

"Theophrastus (374-287 BC), in turn a student of Aristotle, followed the tradition with De ventis and observed that Crete's mountains had previously produced fruit and grain whereas at the time he wrote, the winters were more severe and had more snow falls. In De causis plantarum, Theophrastus also noted that the Greek city of Larissus once had plentiful olive trees but falling temperatures killed them."


It wasn't Plato's Hummer, after all.

The Holocene Warming a (11,600-8,500bp). The Egyptian Cooling (8,500-8,000bp). The Holocene Warming b (8,000-5,600bp). The Akkadian Cooling (5,600-3,500AD). The Minoan Warming (3,500-3,200bp). The Bronze Age Cooling (3,200-2,500bp). The Roman Warming (500BC-535AD). The Dark Ages (535-900AD). The Medieval Warming (900AD-1300 AD). The Little Ice Age (1300AD-1850AD). Recall that the Greeks survived the warmings without air-conditioners. "History," writes Plimer, "cannot be rewritten just because it does not fit a computer model with a pre-ordained conclusion."

We‘re not the "special generation," and we don't have special powers to control the earth's temperature through special one-world government plans and cap-and-trade tax scams. Indeed, the ancients, from the Egyptians to the Greeks, these "enlightened pagans," as I call them, were far more level-headed than today's tree-first Democrats.

There are many reasons why civilisations rise and fall, and in my view, thousands of stories to be told. But let's be real because certain patterns stand out more than others, from droughts and floods, to broken sexual norms and dangerously low-birth rates.

Back to the ancient Greeks though: "Greek mythology makes reference to deforestation, flooding, siltation of irrigation channels, salination and the collapse of the Sumerian city-states. Written records dating back 5000 years ago describe declining crop yields and decreasing production of wheat relative to the most salt-tolerant barley. Patches of soil turned white, suggesting salt accumulation on the surface of agricultural lands. The drier conditions made it impossible to flush salt from fields."

To my way of thinking, history undermines bad science and supports good science. Again, the Woodstock generation's thirst for specialness is way beyond narcissism. Plimer too recognizes:

"The Mycenaean civilisation fell at the expense of the rise of the Assyrian, Phoenician and Greek civilisations. Records from Troy show that it was cold, with famine around 1259 to 1241 BC and no recovery until 800 BC."


However, I wonder if celebrities and pop scientists are capable of humbling themselves and seeing themselves as small-bit actors, specks of sand, in a larger play, spanning thousands of years, where cool periods and warm periods, visit us.

One day, the Hollywood generation (and I'm singling out limousine lefties here), will thank their lucky stars, or whatever they worship, that they missed the cold Dark Ages, for it was "a terrible time to be around." Just read about the weather of Constantinople by Procopius, or similar observations made from a more southern city by one John of Ephesus. Plimer adds:

"Around 540 AD, trees almost stopped growing. Flooded bog oaks and timber from this time have very narrow growth rings. This was a global event because it is also recorded in tree rings from Ireland, England, Siberia, North America and South America. Snow fell in Mediterranean Europe and coastal China and there were savage storms in Scandinavia and South America."


Obviously, there are, little warming periods within cold periods, and vice versa. And what should one make of the ancient Olympics, and especially athletic nudity, which was introduced (or popularised) in 720 BC, according to some historians? "Usually said to have commenced in 776 BC, they were a minor carnival at first," writes the historian, Geoffrey Blainey. Were athletes punishing themselves in freezing temperatures, or sun tanning?

"Whether competing as runners, throwers, wrestlers or chariots-drivers, the Greek athletes originally wore clothes but eventually nearly all preferred to be naked in the thronged arena," not to be confused with the thong arena. Did, natural warmings popularise the early Olympics? Little wonder, then, that Gore, the debate closer, ignores Greece's history.

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  • Seriously! 2009/05/09 04:31:41
    Seriously!
    +13
    When I was in 6th grade the "Weekly Reader" magazine (remember that one!) had a cover story announcing the coming ICE AGE. The class was assigned the task of suggesting how we might survive it. Needless to say, we were all spooked. But then summer came, and all the hysteria of the coming ICE AGE was forgotten.

    Now it's GLOBAL WARMING. Summer is coming, and I am confident that the scare mongers will be reminding us how hot it is. But when winter comes ...

    It's all just a JOKE based on JUNK SCIENCE. Thanks for this excellent post to remind us of the truth.

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  • Ken "Don't tread on me!" 2009/05/14 04:59:07
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    +1
    Roberto, here is some more information about the AGW scam. The references are at the bottom of the post.

    Research to Watch:
    Scientists are increasingly recognizing the importance of water vapor in the climate system. Some, like Wallace Broecker, a geochemist at Columbia's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, suggest that it is such an important factor that much of the global warming in the last 10,000 years may be due to the increasing water vapor concentrations in Earth's atmosphere.

    His research indicates that air reaching glaciers during the last Ice Age had less than half the water vapor content of today. Such increases in atmospheric moisture during our current interglacial period would have played a far greater role in global warming than carbon dioxide or other minor gases.

    " I can only see one element of the climate system capable of generating these fast, global changes, that is, changes in the tropical atmosphere leading to changes in the inventory of the earth's most powerful greenhouse gas-- water vapor. " Dr. Wallace Broecker, a leading world authority on climate, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, lecture presented at R. A. Daly Lecture at the American Geophysical Union's
    spring meeting in Baltimore, Md., May 1996.

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    Roberto, here is some more information about the AGW scam. The references are at the bottom of the post.

    Research to Watch:
    Scientists are increasingly recognizing the importance of water vapor in the climate system. Some, like Wallace Broecker, a geochemist at Columbia's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, suggest that it is such an important factor that much of the global warming in the last 10,000 years may be due to the increasing water vapor concentrations in Earth's atmosphere.

    His research indicates that air reaching glaciers during the last Ice Age had less than half the water vapor content of today. Such increases in atmospheric moisture during our current interglacial period would have played a far greater role in global warming than carbon dioxide or other minor gases.

    " I can only see one element of the climate system capable of generating these fast, global changes, that is, changes in the tropical atmosphere leading to changes in the inventory of the earth's most powerful greenhouse gas-- water vapor. " Dr. Wallace Broecker, a leading world authority on climate, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, lecture presented at R. A. Daly Lecture at the American Geophysical Union's
    spring meeting in Baltimore, Md., May 1996.

    Known causes of global climate change, like cyclical eccentricities in Earth's rotation and orbit, as well as variations in the sun's energy output, are the primary causes of climate cycles measured over the last half million years. However, secondary greenhouse effects stemming from changes in the ability of a warming atmosphere to support greater concentrations of gases like water vapor and carbon dioxide also appear to play a significant role. As demonstrated in the data above, of all Earth's greenhouse gases, water vapor is by far the dominant player.

    The ability of humans to influence greenhouse water vapor is negligible. As such, individuals and groups whose agenda it is to require that human beings are the cause of global warming must discount or ignore the effects of water vapor to preserve their arguments, citing numbers similar to those in Table 4b . If political correctness and staying out of trouble aren't high priorities for you, go ahead and ask them how water vapor was handled in their models or statistics. Chances are, it wasn't!

    References:
    1) Current Greenhouse Gas Concentrations (updated October, 2000)
    Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center
    (the primary global-change data and information analysis center of the U.S. Department of Energy)
    Oak Ridge, Tennessee
    Greenhouse Gases and Climate Change (data now available only to "members")
    IEA Greenhouse Gas R&D; Programme,
    Stoke Orchard, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, GL52 7RZ, United Kingdom.
    2) Greenhouse Gases and Global Warming Potentials (updated April, 2002)
    U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
    3) Warming Potentials of Halocarbons and Greenhouses Gases
    Chemical formulae and global warming potentials from Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Climate Change 1995: The Science of Climate Change (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1996), pp. 119 and 121. Production and sales of CFC's and other chemicals from International Trade Commission, Synthetic Organic Chemicals: United States Production and Sales, 1994 (Washington, DC, 1995). TRI emissions from U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, 1994 Toxics Release Inventory: Public Data Release, EPA-745-R-94-001 (Washington, DC, June 1996), p. 73. Estimated 1994 U.S. emissions from U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks, 1990-1994, EPA-230-R-96-006 (Washington, DC, November 1995), pp. 37-40.
    4) References to 95% contribution of water vapor:
    a. S.M. Freidenreich and V. Ramaswamy, “Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,” Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264
    b. Global Deception: The Exaggeration of the Global Warming Threat
    by Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, June 1998
    Virginia State Climatologist and Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia
    c. Greenhouse Gas Emissions, Appendix D, Greenhouse Gas Spectral Overlaps and Their Significance
    Energy Information Administration; Official Energy Statistics from the U.S. Government
    d. Personal Communication-- Dr. Richard S. Lindzen
    Alfred P. Slone Professor of Meteorology, MIT
    e. The Geologic Record and Climate Change
    by Dr. Tim Patterson, January 2005
    Professor of Geology-- Carleton University
    Ottawa, Canada
    Alternate link:
    f. EPA Seeks To Have Water Vapor Classified As A Pollutant
    by the ecoEnquirer, 2006
    Alternate link:
    g. Air and Water Issues
    by Freedom 21.org, 2005
    Citation: Bjorn Lomborg, p. 259. Also: Patrick Michaels and Robert Balling, Jr. The Satanic Gases, Clearing the Air About Global Warming (Washington, DC: CATO Institute, 2000), p. 25.
    h. Does CO2 Really Drive Global Warming?by Dr. Robert Essenhigh, May 2001
    Alternate link:
    i. Solar Cycles, Not CO2, Determine Climate
    by Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc., 21st Century Science and Technology, Winter 2003-2004, pp. 52-65
    Link:
    5) Global Climate Change Student Guide
    Department of Environmental and Geographical Sciences
    Manchester Metropolitan University
    Chester Street
    Manchester
    M1 5GD
    United Kingdom
    6) Global Budgets for Atmospheric Nitrous Oxide - Anthropogenic Contributions
    William C. Trogler, Eric Bruner, Glenn Westwood, Barbara Sawrey, and Patrick Neill
    Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
    University of California at San Diego, La Jolla, California
    7) Methane record and budget
    Robert Grumbine
    Useful conversions:
    1 Gt = 1 billion tons = 1 cu. km. H20
    1 Gt Carbon(C) = ~3.67 Gt Carbon Dioxide(CO2)
    2.12 Gt C = ~7.8 Gt CO2 = 1ppmv CO2
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  • Roberto... Ken "Do... 2009/05/14 17:53:22
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama
    +1
    Thanks for sharing Ken. I'll be reading this a little later.
  • FREED Speaks Up 2009/05/13 12:24:42 (edited)
    FREED Speaks Up
    +2
    Thanks for the article! To my understanding, Greeks in Biblical times, Romans 12: 1, threw off ANYTHING that hindered their race, including their clothing! It had nothing to do with the weather.

    I do agree that the "canopy" God had covering the earth is diminishing due to some of man's inventions, such as sprays, exhaust fumes, and the like. BUT I do not think that we are doomed! God has promised that this will not happen until HE is ready to make a new earth. AND we won't be on earth to see that come to pass.

    Personally, I think Al Gore, lost his election and thus wanted to make a name for himself, as well as the monies it has generated. I don't think he's motives are pure. pass personally al gore lost election monies generated motives pure
  • Basil 2009/05/13 07:12:00
    Basil
    +1
    It's May,and i'm freezing my ass off here in Washington.
  • olderandwiser 2009/05/12 01:23:52
    olderandwiser
    +2
    I remember in high school in the early 1970's that the prediction was that of a pending "ice age". So we decided to go for broke; we took on sex, drugs and rock and roll. We had noting to loose, the ice age was coming and it meant the doom of mankind. We somehow survived our idiot ways and the ice age never arrived. Now idiots like those who predicted the infamous ice age are predicting global warming, which itself flies in the face of logic.

    Wonder how Gore went from barely making it to a multi-millionaire? He pronounced the world as being endangered with global warming and voila! he wins the Nobel Peace Prize and millions of $$. He also controls the first company or has major ownership in it that will wheel adn deal" with "carbon credits.

    Something is rotten, and it is not in Denmark but here in the US of A.
  • you betcha 2009/05/11 14:52:50
    you betcha
    +1
    Great post, Roberto. The amazing thing to me is that Gore and Hollywood have actually succeeded in getting this non-issue taken seriously. The chutzpah these people have to think that mankind can make or stop climate changes that have been happening forever!
  • wow-really 2009/05/11 14:17:07
  • Sandie 2009/05/10 22:26:35
    Sandie
    +1
    I love it.
    Thanks!
    My favorite sentence:
    "We‘re not the "special generation," and we don't have special powers to control the earth's temperature through special one-world government plans and cap-and-trade tax scams."
  • Roberto... Sandie 2009/05/11 01:04:51
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama
    +1
    That is a good one.
  • La Bef 2009/05/10 20:28:43
    La Bef
    +1
    Have I ever mentioned that I believe Al Gored is an Azz hole?
  • Roberto... La Bef 2009/05/11 01:05:15
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama
    LOL
  • skunkman 2009/05/10 19:54:36
    skunkman
    +1
    Like i have stated before. The earth takes care of itself. This is God's design for the planet. This planet has been here for millions of years before man and will be here for millions after man. We can not destroy this planet. Algore is a misinformed man about reality. He will make a million dollars lieing to the people of the world. Time to stop algore.
  • Racefish 2009/05/10 18:50:47
    Racefish
    +1
    Don't tell Gore this, he'll claim he told Pythagoris about the right angle thingy.
  • La Bef Racefish 2009/05/10 20:29:08
    La Bef
    +1
    Just before he invented the Internet?
  • Roberto... La Bef 2009/05/11 01:05:48
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama
    LOL again!
  • Racefish La Bef 2009/05/11 16:34:21
    Racefish
    +1
    Exactly!
  • BIGK27 La Bef 2009/05/11 23:35:51
    BIGK27
    +1
    Don't say that to loud the Al Gore liberals might hear you and kick us off.
    loud al gore liberals hear kick
  • La Bef BIGK27 2009/05/11 23:45:25
    La Bef
    +1
    What a baffoon! LOL
  • BIGK27 La Bef 2009/05/11 23:57:31
    BIGK27
    +1
    But it's so true, but not just Al. But all of them.
    true al
    kool-aid anyone

    true al kool-aid true al kool-aid
  • DaveR 2009/05/10 10:54:28
    DaveR
    +3
    Good post, Roberto. Little wonder that Gore ignores history..........he's been re-writing it for so long trying to cover up his father's voting record!

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