I'm agnostic and I love humanity. Why? Because we're growing and learning and we've managed to become caring, conscious creatures likely without someone who willed us to be so. That's pretty amazing.
Everybody's amazing - they don't teach you that in Bible school - many Christians are taught that they are worthless sinners, who can only find value through their imaginary God.
You got that wrong. No one has a license to kill, and a true Christian knows that. However, there is a passage in Romans 12:18, after a long line of instruction of how a Christian should live, Paul wrote this;
"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
This instruction to be at peace with all people is conditioned upon the objective possibility of doing so. The subjective impossibility of the Christian's being unable to restrain himself, or some such thing, is not in view here at all. The impossibility allowed by Paul as a negation of this precept would lie only in the kind of a situation where truth and duty would require resistance. Peace with some people under some circumstances is impossible. And if people don't know that, then their enemies will bury them in quick fashion.
In the following verse we find this; "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Most people don't understand what that means. Attack me, not in a life threating matter, and I will turn the other cheek. However, if it is required that if the matter of faith is in question, then I am to die quietly locking my killer into a sure place in hell, if it happens that they don't dis...
You got that wrong. No one has a license to kill, and a true Christian knows that. However, there is a passage in Romans 12:18, after a long line of instruction of how a Christian should live, Paul wrote this;
"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
This instruction to be at peace with all people is conditioned upon the objective possibility of doing so. The subjective impossibility of the Christian's being unable to restrain himself, or some such thing, is not in view here at all. The impossibility allowed by Paul as a negation of this precept would lie only in the kind of a situation where truth and duty would require resistance. Peace with some people under some circumstances is impossible. And if people don't know that, then their enemies will bury them in quick fashion.
In the following verse we find this; "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Most people don't understand what that means. Attack me, not in a life threating matter, and I will turn the other cheek. However, if it is required that if the matter of faith is in question, then I am to die quietly locking my killer into a sure place in hell, if it happens that they don't discover their mistake before they die. However, in today’s world that is not likely to happen, as atheist tend to make something personal (I'm better than you), rather making it a religious matter. In a better than you situation, well, we will just see about that, but I was a Ranger in the military, which I do not display in my dealings with men, unless I have to. By then, they learn a hard lesson the hard way. Also, it is often the case that they attack the weak, in matters where it is quite clear that they are oppressing my brothers and sisters, it is then that I should do whatever it takes to end the oppression. How do you know the ones that are the enemy's children?
"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;"
We are told to turn away from the types, but again, that is only if it can be done peaceably. In the military we had a saying, always watch your back because you never really know when you are in a safe place. At the times we read of people being killed in their own homes, the truth of that becomes a sharply driven fact.
Humanity lives by rights, not by any type of rating. One does not have the right to murder, on the other hand, one has the right to self defence. Guns are alright for long distance, but martial arts for close up, and I advise that every one learn at least two of the "arts". I learned three while in the military, as all the fighting people hear about is not all long distance fighting.
As to this idiot's over-rated remark, a person has to know what part he considers over-rated, because humanity just means "all of mankind", or the human race : the totality of human beings.
The fact that the "Amazing Atheist" does not know that displays him as being "Amazingly Stupid".
Maybe not all of mankind, because most don't want the hype. I have never considered myself a "hero" though I hold three medals for bravery in battle. However, I would be the first to tell a person that one act of cowardice does not brand a man for life as a coward, any more than one act of bravery brands a man a brave man for life. Sooner or later the tables turn and the situation changes the picture all the way around. As to men being judges of other men, who knows the thoughts of the coward or the brave. However, to survive, one better learn early in life which he is.
As for universally important, that depends on the situations of life, and how they manifest themselves. If mankind really feels that way, they might as well set in one spot and starve to death. But you know? I bet that all men put a value of some kind on their lives, but the suisides are often the only one that don't believe this rating thing the athest speaks of. And as the Bible says that one should die for what they believe in, the ones that commit suicide are the only ones that back up this "over-rating" thing. In other words, they put their money where their mouth is, but really, how many people do you know that will do that.
I believe a man must live to prove his worth, but if he is really no good as the athest says, and not worth anything, they should follow the ones mentioned above.
Who says man is no good? I don't. I don't know ANY atheists who say man "is really no good as the athest says, and not worth anything"; where do you GET that?
I find this repeatedly - people who think they know what atheists think. When that's not at all what atheists think. It's amazing.
He certainly has a point about the observed behavior of humans - and doesn't it always seem like it's the most self-righteous, the most self-loving humans that act the worst?
But I've never thought that humans are "no good" - many have been misinformed and mislead by other humans seeking power.
The human brain is the greatest reversal of entropy in the universe, and has the capacity for great actions and great understandings.
The brain of mankind is the most powerful source of power on earth also, and the main reason that man should reconize the need of a power greater power than his. The trouble is that mankind, most of the time, does not recognize any power but his own. However, it is rather stupid to think that this source of power on earth just happened to come along of its own violation, in the order of chance. If this were true, then men would not have to create automobiles.
If the "chance" thing has any merit at all, then automobiles would manifest themselves as it is believed by some that mankind did. After all, a dead thing from nothing is more likely to happen than a live thing from nothing without a Creator with the power to give it life. Isn’t it something that man’s creations that have mobility (cars , trucks, airplanes, and ships) has to have a type of “food” to move around, just like mankind does?
Oh, I see, you thing that nuclear power is actually over-inflated, and since that is the case, it is something to be disregarded. Is that your take on power.
I feel you need to figure out what power is, and the range of outlets it occupies. As to God, that is another subject all together, and can never be understood by people that has no Idea what power really is. The day that people stopping in a greater powere than man, well, one will learn exactly how much power that man has, and the suffering he is capable of causing. If there is no God on that day, the earth will not last 24 hours.
Nuclear power is DEFINITELY over-inflated. Destroying all of mankind is a tiny little puff in the vast universe. The power of nuclear war is a big, dumb worthless hammer.
REAL power involves creating, not destroying. A giant chunk of ROCK can destroy civilization . . . . building a gigantic BOMB is a waste of time.
Yeah, they do. But in a battle situation, you don't want to tell a Christian with a gun the truth. It can make for an akward moment with someone who's both under stress AND operating under a delusion. Lot's of superstitious nonsense goes on in groups under stress.
I'm so glad he took time from his "vacation" to grace us worth his wisdom-laden words.
Adjective:
Causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing.
Startlingly impressive.
This man is neither one of those.
That's pretty amazing.
We get a lot of that in Brit humour, and he is a bit of an Anglophile about comedy.
"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
This instruction to be at peace with all people is conditioned upon the objective possibility of doing so. The subjective impossibility of the Christian's being unable to restrain himself, or some such thing, is not in view here at all. The impossibility allowed by Paul as a negation of this precept would lie only in the kind of a situation where truth and duty would require resistance. Peace with some people under some circumstances is impossible. And if people don't know that, then their enemies will bury them in quick fashion.
In the following verse we find this; "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Most people don't understand what that means. Attack me, not in a life threating matter, and I will turn the other cheek. However, if it is required that if the matter of faith is in question, then I am to die quietly locking my killer into a sure place in hell, if it happens that they don't dis...
"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
This instruction to be at peace with all people is conditioned upon the objective possibility of doing so. The subjective impossibility of the Christian's being unable to restrain himself, or some such thing, is not in view here at all. The impossibility allowed by Paul as a negation of this precept would lie only in the kind of a situation where truth and duty would require resistance. Peace with some people under some circumstances is impossible. And if people don't know that, then their enemies will bury them in quick fashion.
In the following verse we find this; "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Most people don't understand what that means. Attack me, not in a life threating matter, and I will turn the other cheek. However, if it is required that if the matter of faith is in question, then I am to die quietly locking my killer into a sure place in hell, if it happens that they don't discover their mistake before they die. However, in today’s world that is not likely to happen, as atheist tend to make something personal (I'm better than you), rather making it a religious matter. In a better than you situation, well, we will just see about that, but I was a Ranger in the military, which I do not display in my dealings with men, unless I have to. By then, they learn a hard lesson the hard way. Also, it is often the case that they attack the weak, in matters where it is quite clear that they are oppressing my brothers and sisters, it is then that I should do whatever it takes to end the oppression. How do you know the ones that are the enemy's children?
"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;"
We are told to turn away from the types, but again, that is only if it can be done peaceably. In the military we had a saying, always watch your back because you never really know when you are in a safe place. At the times we read of people being killed in their own homes, the truth of that becomes a sharply driven fact.
The issue here is the sanctity of life and whether humanity is overrated.
As to this idiot's over-rated remark, a person has to know what part he considers over-rated, because humanity just means "all of mankind", or the human race : the totality of human beings.
The fact that the "Amazing Atheist" does not know that displays him as being "Amazingly Stupid".
Because WE are the ones doing the "rating".
Humans think we are universally important.
We're not.
As for universally important, that depends on the situations of life, and how they manifest themselves. If mankind really feels that way, they might as well set in one spot and starve to death. But you know? I bet that all men put a value of some kind on their lives, but the suisides are often the only one that don't believe this rating thing the athest speaks of. And as the Bible says that one should die for what they believe in, the ones that commit suicide are the only ones that back up this "over-rating" thing. In other words, they put their money where their mouth is, but really, how many people do you know that will do that.
I believe a man must live to prove his worth, but if he is really no good as the athest says, and not worth anything, they should follow the ones mentioned above.
I find this repeatedly - people who think they know what atheists think. When that's not at all what atheists think. It's amazing.
But I've never thought that humans are "no good" - many have been misinformed and mislead by other humans seeking power.
The human brain is the greatest reversal of entropy in the universe, and has the capacity for great actions and great understandings.
If the "chance" thing has any merit at all, then automobiles would manifest themselves as it is believed by some that mankind did. After all, a dead thing from nothing is more likely to happen than a live thing from nothing without a Creator with the power to give it life. Isn’t it something that man’s creations that have mobility (cars , trucks, airplanes, and ships) has to have a type of “food” to move around, just like mankind does?
The invention of God is a result of that over-inflated view of the value of power.
"then men would not have to create automobiles"
- Right there is when I realized you're just making this nonsense up as you go along.
Y'know, having a philosophy is not really the same as just making crap up to fit what you want to believe.
I feel you need to figure out what power is, and the range of outlets it occupies. As to God, that is another subject all together, and can never be understood by people that has no Idea what power really is. The day that people stopping in a greater powere than man, well, one will learn exactly how much power that man has, and the suffering he is capable of causing. If there is no God on that day, the earth will not last 24 hours.
REAL power involves creating, not destroying. A giant chunk of ROCK can destroy civilization . . . . building a gigantic BOMB is a waste of time.
Feminist untill you get married-
Atheist untill the airplane starts falling