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Terrorism or National Debt, which concerns you more?

CrazyDeen0 2012/08/20 14:28:00
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Obviously, a big part of our spending is on military. With all the nation building going on in Iraq and Afghanistan along with over 700 bases across the world. Our military budget is more than the top 13 countries around the world combined!! Yet, terrorism still seems to be more of a threat than it was a decade ago. Although, domestic spending is waaay out of control, and our debt is fastly approaching 17 trillion. Americans are going to have to make a decision at some point. History has shown that no country can survive financially in multiple wars while taking care of their own people at the same time. To any one paying attention even minutely, it is obvious America spends way more than it takes in, and we are beyond the point of what to do. In my opinion, economic freedom is the same as personal freedom, and you cannot have one without the other. Which is why I pose this question. Certain people in our government believe that if we do not stay on the offense around the world, the terrorist will come here to wreak havoc, but this cost a lot of money to sustain. Which means the debt will continue to grow. Consider this.. even if we cut our military spending in half, America easily would remain the world’s dominant military power. So, when will we consider a more conservative military foriegn policy? Soon? Or before it is too late, if it isn't already?
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  • Rebel Yell 2012/08/20 15:18:49
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    Rebel Yell
    +5
    We cannot fight wars, maintain bases in 150 countries out of 190, keep our domestic fires burning, continually feed a much too fat defense budget..... without new revenue.

    Grover Norquist has made most Republicans sign a " no new taxes ever" pledge. Why they fear an unelected person so much is another mystery. (Jon Huntsman refused to sign).

    HW Bush famously said, "Read my lips. No new taxes". But he did raise them because he realized the need for new revenue. That cost him a second term.

    We cannot have an honest discussion about our budget and spending unless we address that one huge question: Will new revenue be part of a budget deal or not?

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  • newgvt 2012/10/15 15:30:55
    National Debt
    newgvt
    +1
    Military is a huge part of our spending and it should be a huge part. But what they do is over pay for small items in a huge way. Trust me i know. $100 dollar toilet seats. Snap-On tools out the butt. Why, well it all goes back to kick backs baby. Thats where pac groups come into play. You use my company and over charge the tax payers and ill fund your re election. Its a circle that we have to stop. But under the current system and style of office holding we have it will never happen. Too much money laying around and not enough eyes on it. Three quarters of Americans do not even understand what and where there tax money goes. Or care for that matter. If they did then this kind of abuse would of stopped a long long time ago.. My Three cents!!!!
  • Patsy 2012/09/21 18:28:08
    Undecided
    Patsy
    Both! Plus loss of freedom.
  • S. Gompers 2012/08/22 13:05:01
    Undecided
    S. Gompers
    +1
    Both are tools to cripple our nation.
  • JERSEYDUDE 2012/08/21 22:54:58
    National Debt
    JERSEYDUDE
    our debt is the greatest threat to our national security
  • Rodney 2012/08/21 04:18:05
    National Debt
    Rodney
    +2
    With so much of our debt being held by foreign entities, we can be manipulated by those holding our debt. Also, without the ability to fund defense, we have no defense.
  • Pat 2012/08/21 03:38:19 (edited)
    Undecided
    Pat
    +1
    I am not particularly concerned about terrorism. I don't think there is much we can do about that threat no matter how many wars we fight or how much we spend on defense.

    The National Debt is a concern but there is a way to fix it with Tax Reform. The very wealthy in this country should be paying more in taxes and middle class taxes can stay the same as they are now. The wealthy have had these Bush tax cuts for over 8 or 10 years and they have NOT created jobs as it was expected they would do. What makes anyone think that more tax cuts for the rich will result in more jobs? That's crazy. Let them pay a little more, go back to the pre-Bush taxes and that will improve our deficit. Cutting vital program, slashing Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security puts the burden squarely on the shoulders of the elderly, and the poor and disadvantaged and will not fix the deficit.

    What we should cut is the Defense budget, bring all the troops home from all over the world and put them to work here rebuilding our infrastructure. We don't need to have them stationed all over the world in this day and age.
    Tax the Rich Bring the troops home
  • Huntclan 2012/08/21 02:59:50
    National Debt
    Huntclan
    The opposite of what Obie thinks is the worst.
  • davidgoessplat 2012/08/20 21:49:37
    National Debt
    davidgoessplat
    +2
    Terrorists cant destroy this country. The coming fiscal collapse on the other hand can.
  • American 2012/08/20 21:07:01
  • john Kills 2012/08/20 20:15:25
    National Debt
    john Kills
    +2
    Terrorism from others is no concern to me. Our own government is the largest threat we face and the national debt is terrorism.
  • jdemme 2012/08/20 20:14:56
    Undecided
    jdemme
    I would be inclined to say national debt, but really I'm much more concerned about our social programs and keeping them solvent, not to mention the economy or healthcare. The national debt is like the 5th or 6th thing we should be concerned about, not the first.
  • scbluesman13 2012/08/20 20:05:51
    Undecided
    scbluesman13
    +2
    Neither, because they are both problems that are woefully perverted in how they are explained and shown to the American public. Our national debt is a global debt. It is debt that we inextricably share with so many other countries. This isn't the kind of debt you "pay down", but it's the kind of debt you trade or export/import your way out of.

    And as for terrorism, I don't feel more or less safe than I did before 9/11. I don't worry about someone in a turban walking into my office strapped with C4. I'm far more likely to get shot by a stray bullet from a drive-by gang shooting, or by a white supremecist group looking for another dark-colored person to hurt/harass. So our government can wail on about stopping people with stuff in their underpants, but for me, the everyday crime of living in a big city is where the real terrorism threats lie.
  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/08/20 19:40:15
    National Debt
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +2
    We need a Change In the WH to get USA on track again !!!!!!
  • Flamdingo 2012/08/20 18:26:55
    Undecided
    Flamdingo
    +1
    Neither, Obama getting re-elected concerns me more than anything else.
  • voice_matters 2012/08/20 17:53:04
    Terrorism
    voice_matters
    terrorism is the area we need to take out first
  • FatherL... voice_m... 2012/08/20 18:24:58
    FatherLiberty
    +3
    You cant fight a war you cant fund. And war only creates more terrorists. Terrorism is the act of violence for political change. Given that, is "spreading democracy" through violence not terrorism in itself?
  • voice_m... FatherL... 2012/08/20 18:34:23
    voice_matters
    when you care to respond to my comments feel free. care to rant please reply to yourself
  • Katfish 2012/08/20 17:21:41
    National Debt
    Katfish
    +3
    Foriegn intervention helped to create both terrorism and the debt.
  • Lanikai 2012/08/20 16:59:06
    National Debt
    Lanikai
    +2
    Terrorists can be dealt with this clown ass presidents spending cannot.
  • Vijay Pawar 2012/08/20 16:55:17
    Undecided
    Vijay Pawar
    With both the country is sure to suffer.
  • JanHopkins 2012/08/20 16:39:33
    National Debt
    JanHopkins
    +3
    This whole terrorism thing has turned inward towards the citizens of America. It has shredded many liberties on it's way and helped inflate the national debt.
  • GINGERBREAD 2012/08/20 16:19:20
    National Debt
    GINGERBREAD
    +3
    Let's face it. our national debt is more critical to our defense than any kind of terrorism. If, by chance, these muslims decide to use an "A" bomb on us. we can retaliate by turning all these muslim nations into a burning pyre. Will we kill hundreds of millions of muslims, you bet, but they will not have the power to hit us again for a couple of hundreds of years. However, if we become broke, because of our debts, we wouldn't be able to defend ourselves from any kinds of attacks. We have to fix our national debts first.
  • Rob_Hoff 2012/08/20 15:59:52
    National Debt
    Rob_Hoff
    +1
    Excellent topic, the people that make up the military/industrial/financial cabal are the true terrorists - these people would include most elected officials on the national/international level.
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/08/20 15:34:47
    Undecided
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +1
    Neither one. Both are distractions from the real problems that politicians are unwilling to address because solving real problems is political suicide.
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/08/20 15:23:37
  • Michael=Constitution & Liberty 2012/08/20 15:20:44
    National Debt
    Michael=Constitution & Liberty
    +2
    "Terrorism" hmmm, Whom are the real terrorists?!
    more sheep afraid of the boogeyman! its all BS!
  • ed 2012/08/20 15:19:18
    National Debt
    ed
    +2
    We can deal with the terrorists easier than we can our growing national dept.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/08/20 15:18:49
    Undecided
    Rebel Yell
    +5
    We cannot fight wars, maintain bases in 150 countries out of 190, keep our domestic fires burning, continually feed a much too fat defense budget..... without new revenue.

    Grover Norquist has made most Republicans sign a " no new taxes ever" pledge. Why they fear an unelected person so much is another mystery. (Jon Huntsman refused to sign).

    HW Bush famously said, "Read my lips. No new taxes". But he did raise them because he realized the need for new revenue. That cost him a second term.

    We cannot have an honest discussion about our budget and spending unless we address that one huge question: Will new revenue be part of a budget deal or not?
  • jdemme Rebel Yell 2012/08/20 20:13:08
    jdemme
    You've got some balls my friend.
  • Cliff 2012/08/20 15:12:59
    National Debt
    Cliff
    +2
    We can recover from a terror attack. I'm not so sure about bankruptcy.
  • rocat Cliff 2012/08/20 15:57:11
  • FatherL... Cliff 2012/08/20 18:53:59
    FatherLiberty
    Are you unaware that the US has been bankrupt since 1933? The US officially declared bankruptcy on June 5, 1933, at which time they devised the Social Security Act which wrote off the American citizens as collateral to the debt paid to the central bank. At this time the US govenrment ordered the citizens to turn in their gold and it was handed over to the banks for the interest owed. Since then, we have stopped created money with gold and silver banking and we, through our social security numbers, have been traded as collateral, meaning we are effectively slaves. When the country officially collapses and can not pay the debt owed to the central bank, we are under their ownership.
  • Cliff FatherL... 2012/08/20 22:55:24 (edited)
    Cliff
    Call it what you will but the proof is in the pudding. When America's credit rating was downgraded, that was the wake up call. One more downgrade could be disastrous.
  • FatherL... Cliff 2012/08/21 00:00:16 (edited)
    FatherLiberty
    +1
    Call it what I want?!? Its not what I want.... Its called bankruptcy and we have been in that pudding for a long time! THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN the wake up call but apparantly it went right over the American peoples heads just it seems to have gone right over yours. The FIRST shock was the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 which created the bankruptcy of 1933, which resulted in the government signing us off as debt to the Fed, and put us on the path to the continual devaluation of the dollar and accumulation of massive debt we see today. This has been a long time coming, thanks to the older generations not paying attention.
  • Cliff FatherL... 2012/08/21 11:53:52
    Cliff
    Tell someone who cares
  • FatherL... Cliff 2012/08/21 15:43:50
    FatherLiberty
    Wow, okay... typical American response. Why did you mention being concerned about the credit downgrade then if you dont care? The issue of the bankruptcy is also something YOU brought up. I was just explaining we are ALREADY under bankruptcy and collections. Sorry for informing you of something you apparantly didnt know.... I guess that hurt your pride a little. Its because of people like you that our country is done.
  • Cliff FatherL... 2012/08/21 16:42:21
    Cliff
    What I don't care about is hearing somebody's economics theory about what happened 100 years ago and how it affects us today. What affects us most today is stuff being done today.
  • FatherL... Cliff 2012/08/21 17:16:51
    FatherLiberty
    +1
    Those who dont know the past are doomed to repeat it. The problem of the past it whats causing the problems of today. It is still the same problem. The federal reserve, which is not federal, it is a private cartel of foreign banks, collects 40 million dollars a day in interest from US tax payers. The Constitution requires that the Congress and Treasury be responsible for the issuance of currency and the value thereof without interest imposed. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that we should be paying interest to private foreign banks to print paper that it loans to our government. Our government can do that themselves, as Lincoln and Kennedy both tried to reinstate (leading to their assassinations). That is 40 million dollars a day that is spent unnecessarily for nothing. That 40 million can be saved and/or invested in our own country.
  • Cliff FatherL... 2012/08/22 04:24:33
    Cliff
    Why only go back to 1913?
  • Seonag 2012/08/20 15:09:31
    National Debt
    Seonag
    +2
    We won't survive if we don't get the National Debt under control.

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