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Terrorism in Toulouse: Could France have stopped the known terror suspect sooner?

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France had a single Islamic Jihadist murder at least seven people in three different terrorist attacks. French authorities descripted the terrorist, Mohammed Merah, a 23-year-old man, as a self-styled al Qaeda jihadist. They had ongoing surveillance on the convict after the US military handed him over to the French in Afghanistan. The terrorist had prior criminal convictions in France. Yet, France failed to stop him. CNN reports:
A French national of Algerian origin, he had been under surveillance by French intelligence for a couple of years, having "already committed certain infractions, some with violence," Gueant told CNN affiliate BFM-TV.US military turned the terrorist over to the French authorities in Afghanistan. France also tracked him after the first murders. Reuters reports:Gueant said police identified the IP address he used because he was already under surveillance for radical Islamist beliefs.

"We knew, and that is why he was under surveillance, that he had travelled to Afghanistan and Pakistan," the minister said.

Innocent people died as France moved slowly to engage this known criminal and terrorist. A convict with ties to terrorist groups and training in Afghanistan should not have the opportunity to commit three terrorist attacks.

Don't overestimate the failures of government, particularly against Islamic terror. Bureaucrats and law enforcement both fear the politically correct police who label people as "Islamophobic" for preventing terrorism.

Remember the Fort Hood terrorist attack by a known radical Muslim, Nidal Malik Hasan? They should have stopped him earlier too.

And remember the New York Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad? They knew about his trips to terrorist training trips to Pakistan and ignored him as a threat (in fact, they gave him citizenship).

And remember the Christmas Day underwear bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab? His father tried reporting him as a threat, but the government ignored his pleas. They also ignored his paying for his one-way ticket in cash, no luggage, etc...

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  • Adakin Valorem~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/22 18:46:48 (edited)
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Adakin Valorem~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Although I'm not one to support "preemptive" strikes, I am one that advocates allowing individuals to protect themselves with the best tools available. Just as we have fire extinguishers in kitchens, life jackets around the water & in boats, and a spare tire in our cars, we also need to have the proper tools to deal with an unprovoked attack by a criminal, thug or terrorist.

    We disallow 700,000 off duty police officers from carrying their service weapon with them when they fly commercially, and we disallow the 6 MILLION concealed weapons permit holders to have their gun in their carryon bags in a commercial airline, but its well known that if a hijacker takes over an aircraft and wants to fly it into the capital, the Whitehouse or the pentagon, our military will blow that plane out of the sky.

    So it’s okay for the gov't to kill us if we are a victim of a hijacking, but it’s NOT okay for us to defend ourselves with our own concealed firearm. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. NOT

    So France where civilians cannot carry guns is attached by an armed Jihadist and finally is taken down by the cops after a 30 hour stand-off...

    Well, ain't that just spiffy...

    Be safe, travel armed! Because when seconds count... the Police are just MINUTES AWAY!

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  • Ginger 2013/05/25 06:12:12
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Ginger
    As it happened with Boston , the older brother went in some places of the world as Merah and we should know , they did not go there as turists .
  • jeane 2012/03/24 23:12:43
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    jeane
    +2
    Too little too late.
  • Captain-Morgan 2012/03/24 02:33:53
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Captain-Morgan
    +1
    The proof is they took to long take him out...
  • L.A. woman 2012/03/23 21:44:27
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    L.A. woman
    +3
    Multiculturalism and political correctness run amok
  • Mike 2012/03/23 13:15:23
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Mike
    +1
    There is always something fishy about the French.
  • Viet Era medic 2012/03/23 00:35:52
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Viet Era medic
    +1
    they observed him a while... I think I remember reading that. Which means they should have arrested him for suspicion and then perhaps it could have been prevented. the dude killed a school girl.. what an a$$. these people are so full of chit. They say they don't believe in harming women and children but they always kill both...
  • Maxine 2012/03/23 00:34:56
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Maxine
    +1
    It is scary that one man who do all of this with a whole city full of authorties looking for him. Imagine what could happen if he had help? They need to get tough. Sad to say but are at war with Muslins. No they are not all to blame--the bad ones make the good ones look bad.
  • Ron in Oregon 2012/03/22 22:09:12
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Ron in Oregon
    +1
    They wanted the notoriety.
  • Freeranger 2012/03/22 19:59:21
    France acted as quickly as possible
    Freeranger
    I've found that hindsight is always 20/20 Who could say?
  • Adakin Valorem~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/22 18:46:48 (edited)
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Adakin Valorem~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Although I'm not one to support "preemptive" strikes, I am one that advocates allowing individuals to protect themselves with the best tools available. Just as we have fire extinguishers in kitchens, life jackets around the water & in boats, and a spare tire in our cars, we also need to have the proper tools to deal with an unprovoked attack by a criminal, thug or terrorist.

    We disallow 700,000 off duty police officers from carrying their service weapon with them when they fly commercially, and we disallow the 6 MILLION concealed weapons permit holders to have their gun in their carryon bags in a commercial airline, but its well known that if a hijacker takes over an aircraft and wants to fly it into the capital, the Whitehouse or the pentagon, our military will blow that plane out of the sky.

    So it’s okay for the gov't to kill us if we are a victim of a hijacking, but it’s NOT okay for us to defend ourselves with our own concealed firearm. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. NOT

    So France where civilians cannot carry guns is attached by an armed Jihadist and finally is taken down by the cops after a 30 hour stand-off...

    Well, ain't that just spiffy...

    Be safe, travel armed! Because when seconds count... the Police are just MINUTES AWAY!
  • iki 2012/03/22 18:25:20
    France acted as quickly as possible
    iki
    i've heard al abouth it on the radio, and from those information i think they did everything they could as fast as possible
  • 3kidsandamom 2012/03/22 18:15:14
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    3kidsandamom
    +3
    Political correctness comes before the safety of innocent people, not just in France. When Islam is the religion of the terrorist PC BS is a worldwide problem!
  • pizzaman7 2012/03/22 17:55:03
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    pizzaman7
    +2
    Political correctness strikes again ! If this was a Christian Right-wing person they would of been all over it. There is a pattern here. Government could of stopped Hasan in Fort Hood as well and other examples presented in this post. How sad !

    I guess that is why France has no-police zones full of immigrants who have no desire to assimilate into their society. In 10-15 years they will be over-run.
  • Maxine pizzaman7 2012/03/23 00:37:38
    Maxine
    +2
    Yes I totally agree with you--are they too afraid of offending Muslins. They have no fear of offending Christians. What is going on?
  • pizzaman7 Maxine 2012/03/24 16:36:38
    pizzaman7
    +2
    Christians don't threaten you or attack you. They are not outward when being offended.
  • Maxine pizzaman7 2012/03/25 02:19:25
    Maxine
    +1
    Yes I know sometimes we are too passive.
  • jasmine1 pizzaman7 2012/04/03 23:17:09
    jasmine1
    +1
    Profiling works yet everyone is afraid to use it. Terrorists claim it is racist because it works and makes their job much more difficult. PC and profiling are tools we should be using. Wake up fools!
  • pizzaman7 jasmine1 2012/04/05 09:44:12
    pizzaman7
    +2
    Check this out !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    France and Britain are being over-run. we should all be learning from this.
  • none 2012/03/22 17:09:35
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    none
    +4
    The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. France and all Eruopean countries need to stop any more Muslim from entering the country, they're the cause of problems.
  • jasmine1 none 2012/04/05 14:44:58
    jasmine1
    +3
    England has tried to warn us. They feel it is too late for them but we still have a chance. England had a specific problem since they had colonies all over the world. The people from these colonies could come and go into England as they pleased. They set up ethnic cells and now are there for good. This is destroying the English traditions, etc. and many of these people are muslims. France has this problem, too, because of Algeria. They are in a mess and the French people are not sympathetic.
  • none jasmine1 2012/05/02 13:40:17
    none
    Lucky we have no colonies. Muslims are the plague of the 21st century.
  • jasmine1 none 2012/05/02 17:23:24
    jasmine1
    +1
    21st and about 14 centuries before this. Charles Martell beat them back at Tours, France and saved Europe at that time and he was Charlemagnes's grandfather. These idiots just do not give up. There is an answer but it is not humane.
  • none jasmine1 2012/05/04 15:57:56
    none
    +1
    Muslims are not humane at all, they're nothing less than sub-human barbarians in most cases and the inhumane answer is all they'll ever understand I'm afraid.
  • ETpro 2012/03/22 16:25:28
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    ETpro
    +2
    Seems they have some bitter lessons to learn.
  • Mike 2012/03/22 16:19:29
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Mike
    +2
    That's socialism !
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/03/22 16:07:07
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +4
    Part of the problem was that the targets were not allowed to defend themselves. The other part is that police everywhere move far too slowly.

    The solution: let the people arm themselves.
  • Pops Temlako... 2012/03/22 19:26:50
    Pops
    +1
    Where I come from in the Midwest. I noticed there where never any drive by shootings. I always thought it was because they new every car and truck had a very accurate weapon that could strike it's target as small as a baseball at 200 meters !
  • exetertraining 2012/03/22 15:15:39
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    exetertraining
    +4
    If the terrorist attack carried out in Toulouse, France tells us anything here in the United States, it is that programs like the NYPD surveillance operation are 100% necessary!

    Read the article at The Political Commentator here: http://bit.ly/GGMRTU
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/03/22 15:06:51
  • Ghost 2012/03/22 15:00:09
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Ghost
    +4
    This is exactly what happens when a country has an uncontrollable immigration policy. I've traveled to France on business and it appears there are more Muslim immigrants there than legal French citizens. Paris itself is surrounded by ghettos filled with immigrants.
  • Glenn Mitchell 2012/03/22 14:55:07
    France acted as quickly as possible
    Glenn Mitchell
    Hindsight always offers the best view of what happened. How unfortunate it cannot be applied ahead of time.
  • princessjess 2012/03/22 13:07:40
  • Flamingolady 2012/03/22 12:58:49
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Flamingolady
    +2
    It states here that the US handed him over to the French in Afghanistan. It is unclear what infraction had occurred for this to have happened. If he was indeed handed over to be imprisoned, and yet was not, then the French did fail. If it is a PC error, meaning the French did not heed the implicated warning, and although his IP address was being monitored, and only half-a$$ed watched him, due to PC conditions, then the failure is on the French also for being too lax in their duty of protecting the innocent.
  • whitewu... Flaming... 2012/03/22 15:07:47
  • redneck 2012/03/22 12:58:35
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    redneck
    +2
    Seems to me there is a plan in the works,the same day this event gose down the NYPD say that Iran has ben taking photos of NYCity buildings.Iran ,realy ??? the propaganda machine in in full attack mode,to get all the people in the world to take out another country that has done nothing wrong.The real threat is North Korea and the missle test that will happen real soon,some think that will be a attack ,not a test.The attack involving a Army staff Sargent was another false flag ,some of the Afghan people who witnesed the attack there was more than one shooter.Why didn't the mainstream media cover this part of the story ??? The progressive retards protect these radicals at the cost of everyones freedoms,there seems to be a plan under way.Some thing big is going to happen soon,the flags are flying all over the world.Al-qaida was invented by the CIA,trained and armed by the use of your tax dollars.The governments know what's going on ,they could stop it but won't.Get ready here come another attack,with all the new laws obama has recently signed into law of course with out congress and the Senate,the litle king and his radical freinds will visit again real soon.
  • Ron in ... redneck 2012/03/22 22:17:41
    Ron in Oregon
    Yes, they will try to launch a satellite and it will have to be destroyed. It will probably cause an EMP over the western U.S.
  • Viet Er... redneck 2012/03/23 00:40:41
    Viet Era medic
    That's right Redneck. The next false flag will be an attack on US soil or on a US ship and then we will respond in force. another war, just what they want.
  • Michael Mcconnell 2012/03/22 12:55:59
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Michael Mcconnell
    +1
    Thanks to political correctness, France failed. The rest of the west failed because -once again, islamofascists will be over looked.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/22 11:58:09
    France FAILED to stop the terror
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    If he was under surveillance he should have been picked up quickly.
  • D.C. Willis 2012/03/22 11:32:31
    France acted as quickly as possible
    D.C. Willis
    The gunman's first victims were three soldiers of North African origin who had recently returned from Afghanistan, who were shot dead in two separate incidents. Days later, the killer struck again, killing a rabbi and three children at a Jewish school Monday.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/21...

    Had they been able to make an arrest when he killed the first victims I am sure they would have.

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