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Teacher Helps Students Cheat Because She Says They’re ‘Dumb As Hell’: Do You Blame Public Schools or Kids?

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Public school teachers may want to blame kids and parents for their poor performance, but public school teachers -- and their unions -- have their share of the blame. CBS reports that math teacher Shayla Smith didn't act alone in her unsavory behavior.
Smith’s case was part of a larger investigation that implicated approximately 180 public school teachers in the city, sparked by investigations performed by the newspaper.
Parents do share part of the blame as well, but cheating to help kids goes beyond acceptable for a teacher. Cheating teaches the wrong values and ethics, which hurt more than just bad grades -- it corrupts the students and their future children.

ATLANTA.CBSLOCAL.COM reports:
A local former fifth-grade teacher implicated in a cheating scandal reportedly offered the students the illegal help because she thought they were "dumb as hell."
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  • Birthpangs 2012/08/30 16:12:27
  • mike j 2012/08/30 16:11:42
    Kids
    mike j
    Although I have a small amount of sympathy for the teacher , she did not serve the student, the School District , or the taxpayers by teaching that it is OK to scam the system. Teachers , stand up and get some backbone , whistle blow as a group if you are pressured by your Principal, Superintendant or School Board to pass students that dont make the scholastic grade . We taxpayers get it shafted to us already with outlandish extracircular activites having so much taxpayer money spent on extracirculars and not on scholastics . But until you teachers stand up and demand that student classroom studies be the one and only goal of our education system , then You Teachers will continue to report more and increasingly more stories as Ms Smith.
  • ScoutLdr 2012/08/30 15:58:17
    Public Schools
    ScoutLdr
    +1
    It's the Teacher's Unions. Pervy, unfit educators have been protected by tenured and their unions for years. Negligent supervisors fail to discipline this teachers. In most states it's a long drawn out battle before a district can yank a teacher's tenure and or teaching credentials.
  • nbarton2 2012/08/30 15:51:01
    Public Schools
    nbarton2
    +2
    I think you should have added Government interference in the education and parent apathy.
  • wow-really 2012/08/30 15:42:40 (edited)
    Public Schools
    wow-really
    +1
    I blame public schools for allowing parents, and the government to dictate and demand the dumbing down of education, while insisting they want High Standards and "No Child Left behind".
    Children shouldn't be measurred by a score on a test, and tests should not matter more than the mental, emotional, and physical well being of ALL children.
    Anyone with half a brain cell knows you can't have it both ways, but that's exactly what's going on and the public education system in this country should have stood up for the educational rights of children a long time ago, and made it clear to all that it would not be tolerated.
    But instead they bowed down to whinny, enalbled, and entitled parents of the whinny, enabled, and extremely entitled, children who threaten law suits when they didn't get the grades they felt entitled to. Add to that a governement that has absoluetly have no idead what it means to try an educate a child who is either of the class of the above mentioned, or the opposite class of student of which no one gives a care for, who lives in poverty, and doesn't have the ability to have hopes for anything more.
    All need to take blame equally, but more so for those that stand by and say and do nothing to correct the wrongs before them.
  • thє вluє wαndєrєr 2012/08/30 15:41:41 (edited)
  • Knux57 2012/08/30 15:24:13
    Public Schools
    Knux57
    +1
    It's both, but more the schools themselves, or more specifically, the teachers. Good teachers and bad teachers can make the difference between a kid sleeping through a class and looking forward to a class.
  • cowboy 2012/08/30 15:18:31
    Public Schools
    cowboy
    +1
    Actually I blame parents.
  • JK 2012/08/30 15:09:41
    Public Schools
    JK
    +1
    Both; but let's take into consideration that when you read Facebook posts nowadays that most people don't have a confident grasp on grammer or the English language. Are we keeping teachers that just can't do the job?
  • ZenerSix 2012/08/30 15:06:37 (edited)
    Public Schools
    ZenerSix
    +1
    Education is a teaching curve, not a learning curve. Public education doesn't work because it's public. There are no commercial incentives to get good results. Public schools take the place of what ought to be a commercial industry of private schools and tutors. Instead of public schools, we should have public education assistance programs that complement and compete with the commercial industry to keep costs low, provide work experience for young teachers, and to provide tutoring assistance for the poor.
  • jere.chievres 2012/08/30 14:42:08
    Public Schools
    jere.chievres
    +1
    The teacher probably cheated herself!
  • kraftym... jere.ch... 2012/08/30 15:03:41
    kraftymomma1979
    +2
    Sometimes administrators put pressure on teachers to "cheat" for their students, to change test answers on standardized tests, etc. It's all a numbers game. The kids and society at large always lose.
  • DeeB 2012/08/30 14:40:56
    Public Schools
    DeeB
    +3
    Ever since the Federal government got into the schools. They are purposely dumbing down the kids. They have to, or they might be smart enough to realize just what is going on this country and they can't have that.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?... see the rest of her videos here.

  • Jiorgia 2012/08/30 14:32:01
    Public Schools
    Jiorgia
    +2
    I blame alot of things, sometimes it is the kids but when its a blanket statement it has to be the schools.
    Although seeing as my country doesn't have this problem, I might just have to blame America.
  • krayzrick 2012/08/30 14:30:17
    Public Schools
    krayzrick
    +2
    But it takes 'two to Tango'...
  • MichaelJ 2012/08/30 14:27:02
    Public Schools
    MichaelJ
    +4
    Not just public schools but to be more percise, the department of education. You can trace the decline in American education exactly with the creation of that department.
  • Lanikai 2012/08/30 14:21:09
    Public Schools
    Lanikai
    +4
    Unions in public schools specifically.

    They dumb down the curriculum to fit their agenda for the political future of the nation. They have removed critical thinking skills and turned the classrooms into centers of multiple choice dependency.

    parents are the second part. Listen to any interview of parents from a shooting, drug bust, mass murder, etc-the ignorant ALWAYS blame others and sue. parents routinely bitch out teachers over a kids bad grade, or homework, or assigning long form book reports or research papers.

    Parents want more free football, baseball, basketball, volleyball so their kid can go into professional sports, BUT they do not want harsh homework that forces kids to learn, nor tough course work that might take away from sports inside or outside of school.

    So it is a three fold problem. Schools need to keep moving kids forward to get dollars, teachers need unions to keep jobs (sub par teacher LOVE the union), and parents just want an easy time of it, with no homework to supervise.

    That is what I see as the problems. But I sacrifice everything to put mine in a hard, tough, extreme curriculum private school. I pay taxes for the public, and tuition for a real education. We have old cars, old clothes, no vacations, no frills, but she is getting a great education.
  • kraftymomma1979 2012/08/30 14:19:59
    Kids
    kraftymomma1979
    +2
    Teachers have to have something to work with. Parents don't always send kids to school ready to learn.
  • ZenerSix kraftym... 2012/08/30 15:44:06 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    +1
    Parents mainly use public schools as a mass daycare system.
  • kraftym... ZenerSix 2012/08/30 17:27:24
    kraftymomma1979
    +1
    So true! Far too many have completely abdicated their role in their children's education.
  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/08/30 14:13:04
    Public Schools
    RJeffreySavlov
    +2
    Poor teachers, poor interaction with the students and parents, poor parenting who don't demand their children study,do their homework and teach them responsibility and morals. There is plenty of blame to go around.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/08/30 14:09:45
  • zbacku 2012/08/30 14:03:24
    Public Schools
    zbacku
    +3
    This is exactly what the Liberals wanted. Stupid Kids = Stupid Adults = Votes.
  • ZenerSix zbacku 2012/08/30 15:51:00 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    As opposed to what Conservatives want. Stupid kids = more indoctrination = more votes.
  • Medulla Oblongata 2012/08/30 14:01:12
    Kids
    Medulla Oblongata
    +1
    I don't know, but I don't like that public schools are being blamed for students being "dumb." While I don't agree with that this teacher did, it's not the schools' fault. Not all public schools are bad. I should know, I did spend 18 years of my life in three of them.
  • gnice123 2012/08/30 14:00:57
    Kids
    gnice123
    +1
    Really I blame neither. Why is there no option for blaming THAT particular teacher?

    Greg P.
  • jere.ch... gnice123 2012/08/30 14:48:36
    jere.chievres
    +1
    As I said earlier, she probably had to cheat from 1st grade all the way thru college!
    Probably Harris Teachers College in St. Louis, the absolut worst I have ever seen, I was an Army Recruiter there and had many of their "Graduates" apply For Officers Candidate School NONE of them could pass the BASIC test to even enter the Army as a Private.
  • gnice123 jere.ch... 2012/08/30 14:58:37
    gnice123
    If this is true the question is why would this person be qualified to teach? There should be some administrator held accountable for hiring this person.

    Greg P.
  • jere.ch... gnice123 2012/08/30 15:00:33
    jere.chievres
    Actually not very many of them even got a teaching position, a lot of then are still asking "You want fries with that?"
  • kraftym... gnice123 2012/08/30 15:04:45
    kraftymomma1979
    +1
    Good response, Greg! I think parents play a big part in it too.
  • kate 2012/08/30 13:56:40
    Public Schools
    kate
    +4
    i'm from greece where all schools(except maybe a few) are public....but the public education system is soo bad that you have to pay for additional academic coaching or tutoring outside school if you want to get yourself to a decent university or have a proper education
  • gnice123 kate 2012/08/30 14:04:08
    gnice123
    +1
    Yet here you are in a forum speaking English and I assume you also speak fluent Greek. That's already leaps and bounds better than how many public school systems are doing in this country. I'm also a product of public schooling so it DOES work. The real problem is getting PARENTS involved and serious municipal commitment to hiring, PAYING and retaining good teachers.

    Greg P.
  • GINGERBREAD 2012/08/30 13:56:40
    Public Schools
    GINGERBREAD
    +4
    This country is spending more money per child than any other country in the world, yet the teachers unions keep asking for more money. In any private industry, if they see failure in the product, they change the way they are doing things. But not the teachers union. So, the DEPT of EDUCATION is to blame for all of this. Why don't we get rid of this government dept? I don't know, why not ask the politicians? They are the only ones that can do something about it.
  • Reichstolz 2012/08/30 13:49:09
    Public Schools
    Reichstolz
    +4
    Actually government unions are to blame.
  • Josh Robinson 2012/08/30 13:47:00
    Kids
    Josh Robinson
    +5
    ''It's not the teachers responsibility to teach children, it is the child's responsibility to be taught''. ''You didn't learn that, somebody else taught it to you''
    obama smiling
  • gnice123 Josh Ro... 2012/08/30 14:05:47 (edited)
    gnice123
    +1
    Don't use quotes for words that you made up :-|

    ETA: 'You didn't learn that, somebody else taught it to you' - doesn't even make sense. Whether demonstrated in a classroom, heard on the radio or read in a textbook, someone else did teach you. For example Rush Limbaugh taught you your moronic ideas.

    Greg P.
  • Josh Ro... gnice123 2012/08/30 14:38:37 (edited)
    Josh Robinson
    +2
    It was satire... but thank you for the heads up.... I know you have my best interests in mind and I thank you for that. I don't watch Rush.... what else does he say..?
  • DeeB Josh Ro... 2012/08/30 14:44:12
  • DeeB Josh Ro... 2012/08/30 14:45:06
    DeeB
    +1
    Oh, I didn't see your last sentence!! LOL!
  • Josh Ro... DeeB 2012/08/30 16:54:54
    Josh Robinson
    +1
    Incredible video...! Thanks mas for sending.

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