Teacher gets suspended for giving kids a zero on homework they didn't do. Did you get zero's if you didn't do your homework?

by Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru Posted 2012/06/06 20:20:13

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	Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.	243 votes	66%
	No, I got grades I didn't earn.	9 votes	2%
	Great, and people wonder why the American Education system is failing at a world level.	54 votes	15%
	*Banging head on table	60 votes	16%

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quiz time, parents. Did your kid actually earn the grade he got on his
last test? Are you sure? Maybe this will help you decide: a high school teacher has been suspended from his job for actually giving kids a 0 if they didn't turn in their homework or skipped a quiz.

Lynden Dorval is a physics teacher -- scratch that, was
a physics teacher -- who has been labeled "unprofessional" and been
kicked out of the classroom because he's been “negatively impacting
student achievement.” Huh. So, the way the school's administration looks
at it, it's Dorval's fault that kids didn't turn in their homework or
take their necessary quizzes. That makes ... absolutely no sense at all.

Is
it any wonder kids are increasingly plagued with a bad case of me first
and the gimme, gimmes? School administrators are quite literally
telling kids they don't have to do any work.

Dorval's battle with the school board over the 0s
is going on up in Canada -- he works in a district in Edmonton. But
this problem is hardly isolated to our neighbors to the north.

Just last weekend I sat down with a group of local teachers and was
shocked to find out one school does not allow its educators to give any
grade lower than a 50. Period. It doesn't matter what the child has done
-- or hasn't done -- they can't get a grade lower than that. Another
district has a similar "nothing lower than a 50" in place for the entire
first marking period. After that teachers are actually given leave to,
gasp, grade honestly.

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/06/06 20:24:07

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Hardly unprofessional, not negatively impacting student achievement, teacher was actually doing what he was hired to do.
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sbtbill 2012/06/06 21:28:59

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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When I worked for a private school if I'd done that I'd have been fired.

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apachehellfire65 2012/06/06 21:22:50

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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and the teachers would make sure everyone in the class knew you didn't do your homework.

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~ Veron... to apacheh... 2012/06/06 21:58:20

We used to get after school detention and that was standing in one square tile of the floor in front of the principal's office for half an hour which made you miss the bus and have to call home for a ride. Happened to me only ONE time (I didn't even not do the work, just couldn't find it....found it in another book later in the day but teacher still gave me detention). Mom had to drive 15 miles into town to pick me up and back then, driving 15 miles was considered a long way. My a$$ was grass when I got home! Didn't see the light of day (more like the moon for a date) for 6 weeks.

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apacheh... to ~ Veron... 2012/06/06 22:26:32 (edited)

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i here you. school always bored me. even as a kid i wanted to be somewhere else. if i had a dollar for every time i heard a teacher say he never pays attention in class or he never hands in homework. i could have retired years earlier then i did.

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~ Veron... to apacheh... 2012/06/06 23:27:19

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I found with my own children, if a child is bored or distracted it was because the teacher wasn't challenging them enough. We've given teachers & students a free pass in this country.

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apacheh... to ~ Veron... 2012/06/07 01:59:24

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most likely your right. i always aced their tests.

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~ Veron... to apacheh... 2012/06/07 04:34:13

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Perfect example!

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Pronatalist Pronatalist 2012/06/06 21:20:14 (edited)

Great, and people wonder why the American Education system is failing at a wo...

We taxpayers should demand a refund of our property tax. We didn't get hardly anything that we supposedly paid for.

Break up the government monopoly in education. Sell off the schools. Abolish the property tax and income taxes. Let parents pay tuition to the school of their choice, or home-school or internet school. Even government schools in other countries, aren't this bad.

Parents, get your children out of these sorry pathetic schools. Or should I call them "prisons" actually?

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RageFury to Pronata... 2012/06/07 17:23:11

Prisons or Indoctrination camps, take your pick...

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Pronata... to RageFury 2012/06/08 04:46:59

+1

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Tara-ABO-2012 2012/06/06 21:19:38

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

And if it was turned in late we only got half the grade we could have

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AngryGabby 2012/06/06 21:14:24

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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That's why I make sure to do my homework.

It's not like the teacher is grading unfairly. 0% work was done, so 0% of the work was able to be graded, let alone correct.

http://mojowire.typepad.com/....

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Vision of Verve 2012/06/06 21:08:24
Simmering Frog 2012/06/06 21:02:35

Great, and people wonder why the American Education system is failing at a wo...

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I'm not understanding this story. What other grade was the student expecting if he/she didn't do the assignment?

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ray to Simmeri... 2012/06/06 22:50:40

Article states that 50% is the minimum score obtainable , even when nothing is done .

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Simmeri... to ray 2012/06/06 22:51:38

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Zero work is not 50%. Perhaps some government bureaucrat needs to take a crash course in percentages.

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ray to Simmeri... 2012/06/06 22:55:57

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Sorry , misread that .
Link to the article explains policy as :
"A zero-tolerance policy toward zeroes is among the many fads that have swept the education system. This progressive notion holds that students should be graded only on the work they do, and not be penalized for the work they don't do "

Link is in the article .
Teacher who gave students zero marks becomes a folk hero
http://www.theglobeandmail.co...

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Simmeri... to ray 2012/06/06 22:57:22

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Yes. America's schools! Properly preparing America's youth for the challenges of tomorrow.

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Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/06/06 20:59:27

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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What were the supposed to get? Let me guess...the average score of the kids that actually did it?

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GINGERBREAD 2012/06/06 20:58:57

Great, and people wonder why the American Education system is failing at a wo...

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Ah yes, blame the teacher. Why not? What these people in that school district should do is make that teacher the school superintendent and fire every body else in the school district and hire really good teachers. But, I'm willing to bet that those kids will claim that they desreve an "A", just for showing up in school. That is what's called an "ENTITLEMENT".

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Shawna 2012/06/06 20:55:32

Great, and people wonder why the American Education system is failing at a wo...

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I never got a zero since I always did m y homework. Where I live and teach the high school teachers are allowed to give zeros but as an elementary teacher I was not. For grades five and up I think it was completely appropriate to give a zero but we are only allowed to give the grade incomplete. We then have to make a plan with the student and the student's parent to get the assignment done-there is literally a form to fill out outlining the assignment, the expectations and the new due date. This incomplete can carry on all year and it is only on the final report card that we are allowed to give an F.

I think this is ridiculous. I think that as teachers we should be able to use our discretion and if a student comes to us for an extension or something unanticipated happens and it is appropriate to accept a late assignment without taking off marks then the teacher can do so. Otherwise all of the effort is being put out by the teacher and the student is not learning anything about getting assignments in on time.

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themadhare ~IJM 2012/06/06 20:54:35

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Whoever suspended him should be fired with loss of all pay and pension.

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cmdrbnd007 2012/06/06 20:53:29

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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And that's why I rarely made the honor roll. lol
I can't believe this. A student gets a zero for not doing the work and the teacher gets suspended. What the hell is going on up there in Canada. If they keep that kind of crap up their test scores are going to be as low as the US's. What a bunch of BS! Let the teachers teach and if the kids don't do the work they don't get a freaken grade! Since when is this a new concept? Good Grief?

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Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/06/06 20:48:20

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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I got zero's and an ass whuppin'.

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Kimmel 2012/06/06 20:48:11

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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I can understand giving kids a break on a grade if they put effort into it, but didn't get it right. But turning nothing in for homework is not putting a effort forth. The school administrator needs a wake up call!

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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/06 20:47:47

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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And a teacher gets suspended for that? News flash! Kids *like* the idea that consequences exist. If consequences did not exist, kids might worry about that.

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KellyHotStuff 2012/06/06 20:41:14

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Alll the freaking time

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Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥ 2012/06/06 20:38:56

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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In my school, the weight for homework, classwork, and assesments have different values. Homework is only 10% of your grade. Assesments are 65%. The policy at my school is, if you don't do homework, you get the zero. If you dont do the assesments, instead of getting a zero, you get 55%. Still an F, but it's a precaution so the students wont fail the classes, I guess....

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Seonag 2012/06/06 20:35:05

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Sounds like the people doing the suspending are the ones who need to be suspended. Why should anyone receive something for nothing.

Oh, wait --- that's the Liberal Way to give something for nothing, so it must be right! (sarcasm)

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Linkums 2012/06/06 20:32:21

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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But I always turned it in on time. Seriously, all you have to do to pass a class is turn everything in on time. I don't understand how so many people turn their stuff in late.

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Icedragon1969 2012/06/06 20:30:55

*Banging head on table

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I've been seeing this coming for a long time. Too many people screaming about how it's the school's or teacher's fault their kid isn't doing well. No, most of the time it's the kid's fault they're not doing well, and the parents for not beating their ass over grades.

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Professor Wizard 2012/06/06 20:29:17

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Not only did we get 0's for work not done... attendance accumulated points as well, so missing a class lost a point.

When I went to school, we didn't get much "Multiple Choice".. You flat out had to know the answer! We got "fill in the blank" style questions. We actually had to learn!!!

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bill 2012/06/06 20:28:26

Great, and people wonder why the American Education system is failing at a wo...

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For the good of the children and the country we have to privatize the schools!

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2468 2012/06/06 20:26:58

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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If you don't do the work you should not get any credit.
If you did a partial job then maybe partial points but I would object to 50 points for just sitting in a seat.

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Assassi... to 2468 2012/06/06 20:30:32

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ME TOO.

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scbluesman13 2012/06/06 20:24:38

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Being an honest teacher that isn't afraid to give the grade children may deserve is becoming more of a liability these days.

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Assassi... to scblues... 2012/06/06 20:30:48

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I see this. Very disturbing.

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scblues... to Assassi... 2012/06/06 20:39:14

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It is. I've had several friends in my area quit teaching because of similar problems with their respective school administrations. This isn't just a problem in some town you've never heard of anymore. It's a problem in every county of every state in our nation.

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AngryGabby to scblues... 2012/06/06 23:04:58

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And people wonder why the other countries think that Americans are stupid...

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/06/06 20:24:07

Yes I got Zeros if I didn't do my homework.

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Hardly unprofessional, not negatively impacting student achievement, teacher was actually doing what he was hired to do.

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